Origination of the "Floyd of Rosedale"

[Lamoni]

I listened to a podcast today about how the trophy was started back in the 30s and I had no idea it was tied to racism. I had heard of the governors' bet but I didn't know it was so contentious between the two states. I'm sure some of you know a lot more of the back story than I did but I thought it was worth sharing. We gotta keep the pig here this weekend!

https://www.moonlightgrahamshow.com/podcast/2017/10/23/ep-36-the-story-of-floyd-of-rosedale

 

[HawkIDrummer]

best rivalry trophy in college football

 

[Lamoni]

The Ozzie Simmons game was, obviously, against Minnesota. The Jack Trice game was against Minnesota as well. You would think the hatred of Minnesota would bring the two fan bases together.

 

[markfromj]

Floyd had a famous brother.

 

[Hawksky]

Alex, I'll say
Who is the pig in the movie "State Fair" with Pat Boone? For $1,000!

 

[Lamoni]

I am pretty sure the original Blue Boy was either in the 1933 movie or the movie portrays the original Blue Boy. The Pat Boone remake came 30 years later.

 

[Hawksky]

Oh crap, you're right. Pat Boone state fair was in 1962. But didn't that pig come from Rosedale as well? Maybe his great grandson?

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

The original pig from the movie "state fair" was Big blue (or something) which came from the Rosedale farms. "Floyd" of Rosedale was the younger brother of Big Blue and was given by the owner of Rosedale farms to the then Gov. of Iowa, who gave it to the then Gov. of Minnesota, Floyd xXxX (sorry don't remember) because he lost a bet over the 1935 game. There is a long back story and "Floyd" the pig is buried 6 miles inside southern MN, the midpoint of the universities. It's a cool pod and goes into way more detail. Check it out.

 

[Slappy Pappy]

Lots of bad blood with our neighbors to the north and south due to Iowa having black athletes on our teams. It's also the reason why we refused to play Missouri for almost a century.

 

[TooMuchDumb]

I listened to a podcast today about how the trophy was started back in the 30s and I had no idea it was tied to racism. I had heard of the governors' bet but I didn't know it was so contentious between the two states. I'm sure some of you know a lot more of the back story than I did but I thought it was worth sharing. We gotta keep the pig here this weekend!

https://www.moonlightgrahamshow.com/podcast/2017/10/23/ep-36-the-story-of-floyd-of-rosedale

Here's a great read I refer folks to when they ask, 'what the hell is that pig about anyway.' > http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2005/11/14_steilm_floydofrosedale/

 

[Lamoni]

I believe Minnesota had a black player on their team in 1935 for the first Floyd of Rosedale game but I don't believe they had any black players in '34.
It is interesting that when playing southern schools, who did not allow black players on their teams, northern schools, Iowa included, wouldn't bring their black players along.
Probably mostly for obvious safety reasons but still is hard to comprehend in this day and age.

 

[Lone Clone]

I listened to a podcast today about how the trophy was started back in the 30s and I had no idea it was tied to racism. I had heard of the governors' bet but I didn't know it was so contentious between the two states. I'm sure some of you know a lot more of the back story than I did but I thought it was worth sharing. We gotta keep the pig here this weekend!

https://www.moonlightgrahamshow.com/podcast/2017/10/23/ep-36-the-story-of-floyd-of-rosedale

Of course it was racism. Just a few years earlier, the Gophers killed Jack Trice.

 

[TooMuchDumb]

I believe Minnesota had a black player on their team in 1935 for the first Floyd of Rosedale game but I don't believe they had any black players in '34.
It is interesting that when playing southern schools, who did not allow black players on their teams, northern schools, Iowa included, wouldn't bring their black players along.
Probably mostly for obvious safety reasons but still is hard to comprehend in this day and age.

Nope...Iowa always faced the cowards together as a team > http://nealrozendaal.com/hawkeye-flashback/1896-missouri-football/ It was only when the cowards refused to play, a black Hawkeye sat.

 

[markfromj]

Blue Boy.

 

[Lamoni]

Bingo.
Kind of sad that the pig was given to the winner of a essay contest, then sold to a farm for $50, soon later to die from cholera.

 

[MeetTheFerentz]

Bingo.
Kind of sad that the pig was given to the winner of a essay contest, then sold to a farm for $50, soon later to die from cholera.

I always found that unfortunate, too. Even back then, UMinn had to have had an agriculture school like all other land grant colleges. Why couldn't they just be given Floyd to take care of as a sort of prized mascot? Oh, well. In all fairness, they probably had no idea how long the legend would endure.