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OT: Kobe Bryant's Widow sues Helicopter Company for Wrongful Deaths

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Vanessa Bryant sues helicopter company for deaths
  • ESPN News Services
  • February 24, 2020
LOS ANGELES -- The widow of Kobe Bryant has sued the owner of the helicopter that crashed in fog and killed her husband and their 13-year-old daughter last month.

The wrongful death lawsuit filed by Vanessa Bryant in Los Angeles says the pilot, Ara Zobayan, was careless and negligent by flying in cloudy conditions on Jan. 26 and should have aborted the flight. Zobayan was among the nine people killed in the crash.

The 27-count complaint against Island Express Helicopters and Island Express Holding Corp. seeks unspecified compensatory and punitive damages.

The lawsuit was filed as a public memorial service for Kobe Bryant, daughter Gianna and the other victims was being held at the arena where Bryant played most of his career.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 
No surprise here...
We'll probably never know but I would bet there was (1) a sense of urgency from the 2 coaches (Kobe & the female coach) and the 3 young players to get to the tournament and (2) some overconfidence by the pilot that he could fly in those conditions.

The result of the urgency from the passengers & overconfidence of the pilot? A horrific accident.
 
We call that the risk of management override in the industry. Kobe wanted to go so they went. That pilot was not going to tell Kobe that him and his entire crew couldnt make it to their tournament because it was cloudy. I know that its obviously serious looking at it now, but at the time there is no way the cloudy conditions scared them.
 
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We call that the risk of management override in the industry. Kobe wanted to go so they went. That pilot was not going to tell Kobe that him and his entire crew couldnt make it to their tournament because it was cloudy. I know that its obviously serious looking at it now, but at the time there is no way the cloudy conditions scared them.

It was dense fog, not simply "cloudy." Huge difference.
 
I wonder how much life insurance Kobe had?

Sure, his wife has a huge house and a lot of assets but how long can she afford them?
 
Obviously something went badly wrong,.. not surprised to see the lawyers lining up...
 
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That didn't take long. At least she waited until after the memorial service to have it filed.

Oh, wait............
If there’s one thing I’ve learned in life, it’s to never judge another person’s actions while in deep mourning. Just the idea of losing my wife and daughter makes me want to puke, I have no idea the things I’d do and say for a long time if it actually happened.
 
It was dense fog, not simply "cloudy." Huge difference.

I spent several years in San Diego and know how foggy Southern California can get. They took a great risk flying in those conditions especially if the other helos in the area were downed. Not a big fan of lawyering up in these kind of situations but in this case the pilot and the company have to take ultimate responsibility for making the decision to fly even if pressured by a high dollar client like Kobe.
 
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If there’s one thing I’ve learned in life, it’s to never judge another person’s actions while in deep mourning. Just the idea of losing my wife and daughter makes me want to puke, I have no idea the things I’d do and say for a long time if it actually happened.
I can speak from experience of losing both at the same time and your mind is never the same way again. At least for me it never has been. Quite frankly, Vanessa was incredibly strong for going up there today and doing what she did in front of MILLIONS of live viewers. In my case, I couldn't even give a memorial speech without getting completely inebriated first and making a fool of myself. But everyone understood.
 
Wasn’t it reported yesterday that pretty much all helicopters in that area were downed, including law enforcement? And also, the pilot alledgedly had been sanctioned once before for flying into low visibility zones.
No surprise on a lawsuit.

Yes LAPD grounded all choppers that morning..horrific tragedy yes..i blame the sense of urgency for a basketball game more then the fog.
 
Yes LAPD grounded all choppers that morning..horrific tragedy yes..i blame the sense of urgency for a basketball game more then the fog.

This tragedy seems a result of bad decisions made all the way around. Both factors the fog and the urgency to get there contributed to what happened. And at the end of the day the pilot and company I think have to take responsibility in a legal sense.

But I don't find Kobe the hero the media has made him into since his tragic death. He committed adultery and possibly rape with his daughter that he got killed with just six months of age. And he very likely contributed to their deaths urging the pilot to fly into totally unsafe conditions just to get to a basketball game. Complex man and a totally not black and white situation surrounding his death.
 
This tragedy seems a result of bad decisions made all the way around. Both factors the fog and the urgency to get there contributed to what happened. And at the end of the day the pilot and company I think have to take responsibility in a legal sense.

But I don't find Kobe the hero the media has made him into since his tragic death. He committed adultery and possibly rape with his daughter that he got killed with just six months of age. And he very likely contributed to their deaths urging the pilot to fly into totally unsafe conditions just to get to a basketball game. Complex man and a totally not black and white situation surrounding his death.

It was actually his first daughter only when the Colorado incident happened in 2004 or so, Gigi is his second oldest and born in 2006. Otherwise, no disagreement here with the rest of your thoughts.
 
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Pilot could have said no. He's the ultimate authority on whether they leave or not and sounds like he had been Kobe's pilot for quite a while.
 
It was actually his first daughter only when the Colorado incident happened in 2004 or so, Gigi is his second oldest and born in 2006. Otherwise, no disagreement here with the rest of your thoughts.

Thanks for the correction. Combination of having a senior moment along with deliberately staying away from the media which IMO too often drives narratives as I think they have to some degree in this case. Easy to miss details like that just focusing on the big picture.
 
The helicopter pilot could have made the flight in the ifr conditions. I’m certain that he was relying on his sense of balance and not his instruments and the helicopter got turned sideways. Once that happens it is very hard to recover and the helicopter falls fast. Your mind plays tricks on you when you can’t see up from down. The pilot got cocky and is 100% to blame.
 
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Having flown a UH-1 in Vietnam and with over 2,000 hours in the machine, I would say the pilot screwed the pooch. From what I read, it appears he was trying to return and did not get on his instruments or use the auto-pilot in time and flew straight into a hillside. He should have climbed immediately and declared inadvertent IFR conditions with the ATC. There are many airports in that area where he could have been guided to an ILS approach. (easy to do with the auto-pilot on that A/C) I used to fly many folks to SFO from Ft. Ord (Monterrey) and we could almost count on about 800' of scud on the return. It was actually fun going through the stuff because we had the AF there running a GCA. (Ground Controlled Approach)
 
Yes LAPD grounded all choppers that morning..horrific tragedy yes..i blame the sense of urgency for a basketball game more then the fog.

as i stated above, I blame 2 things:

(1) the sense of urgency to get to the tournament. Of the 9 on board, there were 3 players and 2 coaches who "had" to get there. The other 4, of course, were the pilot, the mom and dad of one girl and the mom of another girl.

(2) the helicopter pilot being overconfident in his skills of flying when he can't see anything in front of him.

i wonder if the helicopter company has any legal standing or if they will just try and settle.

after all, what jury in LA is not going to convict in favor of Kobe's grieving widow?
 
This tragedy seems a result of bad decisions made all the way around. Both factors the fog and the urgency to get there contributed to what happened. And at the end of the day the pilot and company I think have to take responsibility in a legal sense.

But I don't find Kobe the hero the media has made him into since his tragic death. He committed adultery and possibly rape with his daughter that he got killed with just six months of age. And he very likely contributed to their deaths urging the pilot to fly into totally unsafe conditions just to get to a basketball game. Complex man and a totally not black and white situation surrounding his death.
Gayle King brought up Kobe's troubled history with Lisa Leslie in a CBS This Morning interview. Lisa defended Kobe, saying the Kobe she knew is not the type of person who would rape someone. Many people went after Gayle on Twitter trying to destroy her while trying to protect Kobe's legacy.
 
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As you will read, Vanessa Bryant has filed one lawsuit & one claim that will likely lead to a lawsuit.

* One lawsuit alleges the pilot was careless and negligent to fly in the fog and he should have aborted the flight.

* She also has filed a claim (a precursor to a lawsuit) against the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department after deputies allegedly shared unauthorized photos of the crash site.

The pilot's brother has said in a court filing that Bryant knew the risks of helicopter flying and his survivors aren't entitled to damages from the pilot's estate.

The helicopter company, Island Express, said it is not responsible for damages, calling the crash, among other things, "an act of God" and "an unavoidable accident" that was beyond its control.


The full story:

Kobe Bryant, all others aboard helicopter died immediately in crash, autopsies show

Associated Press
May 15, 2020

LOS ANGELES -- The pilot flying Kobe Bryant and seven others to a youth basketball tournament did not have alcohol or drugs in his system, and all nine sustained immediately fatal injuries when their helicopter slammed into a hillside outside Los Angeles in January, according to autopsies released Friday.

The reports by the Los Angeles County coroner's office provide a clinical but unvarnished look at just how brutal the crash was, describing broken bones, dismembered body parts and a stench of fuel on what remained of clothing that burned.

One of the most popular sports figures in Los Angeles and a celebrity around the globe, Bryant had to be identified by his fingerprints after his body was found in the dirt outside the wreckage of the chopper.

The graphic report made it clear: Bryant and the passengers almost certainly were dead in an instant due to blunt trauma.

"These injuries are rapidly if not instantly fatal," wrote Juan Carrillo, senior deputy medical examiner, in Bryant's report.

The crash that killed the 41-year-old retired Los Angeles Lakers star, his 13-year-old daughter, Gianna -- donning the jersey she would have worn to play that morning, with the word "Mamba" on the front and her last name on the back -- pilot Ara Zobayan and the others is considered accidental.

Bryant was headed from Orange County to his daughter's tournament at his Sports Academy in Thousand Oaks on the morning of Jan. 26. The group, including one of his daughter's coaches and two of her teammates, encountered thick fog in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles.

Zobayan, an experienced pilot who often flew Bryant, climbed sharply and had nearly succeeded in breaking through the clouds when the craft took an abrupt left turn and plunged into the grassy, oak-studded hills below.

When it struck the ground, the helicopter was flying at about 184 mph and descending at a rate of more than 4,000 feet per minute. The impact caused a crater and scattered debris over an area the size of a football field in the Calabasas hills. Flames engulfed the wreckage, but burns on the bodies were determined to have occurred after death.

Bryant's body was found on one side of the wreckage, and his daughter's was found in a ravine on the opposite side.

Although Bryant was unrecognizable, a forensic examination offered reminders of the All-Star who captured the imagination of Lakers fans and who was wearing "multicolored court shoes" the day he died.

The autopsy noted a tattoo of a crown on his right shoulder, above where his wife's name, Vanessa, was imprinted. On the lower right arm were the names of three of his four daughters: Bianka Bella, Natalia Diamante and Gianna Maria-Onore, the daughter who died with him.

The youngest girl, Capri Kobe, only 7 months old when her father died, is not mentioned.

The only drug in Bryant's system was methylphenidate, which is sold under the brand name Ritalin and used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and narcolepsy.

The National Transportation Safety Board has not concluded what caused the crash on the outskirts of Los Angeles County but said there was no sign of mechanical failure in the Sikorsky S-76. A final report is not expected for months.

The aircraft did not have a device called the terrain awareness and warning system, which signals when an aircraft is in danger of hitting ground. While the NTSB has recommended the system be mandatory for helicopters, the Federal Aviation Administration requires it for only air ambulances. Both of California's senators have called for the FAA to mandate the devices in the wake of the tragedy.

The others killed were Orange Coast College baseball coach John Altobelli, his wife, Keri, and their daughter Alyssa; Christina Mauser, who helped Bryant coach his daughter's basketball team; and Sarah Chester and her daughter Payton. Alyssa and Payton were Gianna's teammates.

Bryant is the only NBA player to have his team retire two numbers in his honor. He was selected last month for the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame. A ceremony is scheduled for late August, though it might be delayed until at least October because of the coronavirus pandemic.

Bryant and his daughter were honored at a star-studded public memorial Feb. 24 at Staples Center in downtown Los Angeles, with 20,000 in attendance at the arena where Bryant spent most of his two-decade career with the Lakers. The date 2/24 corresponded with the No. 24 jersey he wore and the No. 2 worn by Gianna.

The same day, Vanessa Bryant filed a lengthy lawsuit alleging that Zobayan was careless and negligent to fly in the fog and should have aborted the flight. She also has filed a claim, a precursor to a lawsuit, against the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department after deputies allegedly shared unauthorized photos of the crash site.

Zobayan's brother, Berge Zobayan, has said in a court filing that Bryant knew the risks of helicopter flying and his survivors aren't entitled to damages from the pilot's estate. The helicopter company, Island Express, said it is not responsible for damages, calling the crash, among other things, "an act of God" and "an unavoidable accident" that was beyond its control.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...lot-had-no-drugs-alcohol-system-autopsy-shows
 
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