OT? So who went pro after all? And other departures

[DanL53]

Troy Williams, Indiana
Robert Carter, Maryland
Diamond Stone, Maryland
Deyonta Davis, Michigan State
Did I miss anybody else from the Big Ten?

I think that's it. Not that the league ever has much more than this go pro, but I do think the new rules may have prevented a mistake or two. Of course there is the "We take everybody and it's a job for life" international route. They don't take everybody and it is usually pretty short lived.

Seems like the bigger problem regarding retention continues to be transfers. And in many cases these are guys who did see the court at least 10 mpg. Just a quick list:

Ricky Doyle, Michigan.
Aubrey Dawkins, Michigan
Marvin Clark Jr, Mich St. (Ok, he only played 9.7 mpg. I won't cheat again.)
Javon Bess, Mich St.
Kevin Dorsey, Minnesota
Jake Hammond, Nebraska
A.J. Harris, Ohio St
Austin Grandstaff, Ohio State
Mickey Mitchell, Ohio State
Daniel Giddons, Ohio State
Kendall Stevens, Purdue
Justin Goode, Rutgers
D.J. Foreman, Rutgers

Keep in mind this list is guys that played ten or more minutes. Many, players who would have been expected to develop. Especially if we go by high school rankings.

And lastly, the odd:

Kendrick Nunn, Illinois (Out due to being a criminal)
Spike Albrecht, Michigan (Bad hips, can't play, then transfers to Purdue and can play? We'll see.)
Mike Watkins, Penn State (I don't know if he counts. Incoming frosh academically ineligible for the year.)

 

[David1979]

Troy Williams, Indiana
Robert Carter, Maryland
Diamond Stone, Maryland
Deyonta Davis, Michigan State
Did I miss anybody else from the Big Ten?

I think that's it. Not that the league ever has much more than this go pro, but I do think the new rules may have prevented a mistake or two. Of course there is the "We take everybody and it's a job for life" international route. They don't take everybody and it is usually pretty short lived.

Seems like the bigger problem regarding retention continues to be transfers. And in many cases these are guys who did see the court at least 10 mpg. Just a quick list:

Ricky Doyle, Michigan.
Aubrey Dawkins, Michigan
Marvin Clark Jr, Mich St. (Ok, he only played 9.7 mpg. I won't cheat again.)
Javon Bess, Mich St.
Kevin Dorsey, Minnesota
Jake Hammond, Nebraska
A.J. Harris, Ohio St
Austin Grandstaff, Ohio State
Mickey Mitchell, Ohio State
Daniel Giddons, Ohio State
Kendall Stevens, Purdue
Justin Goode, Rutgers
D.J. Foreman, Rutgers

Keep in mind this list is guys that played ten or more minutes. Many, players who would have been expected to develop. Especially if we go by high school rankings.

And lastly, the odd:

Kendrick Nunn, Illinois (Out due to being a criminal)
Spike Albrecht, Michigan (Bad hips, can't play, then transfers to Purdue and can play? We'll see.)
Mike Watkins, Penn State (I don't know if he counts. Incoming frosh academically ineligible for the year.)

what are you trying to say? Players shouldn't transfer if they play 10 minutes a game?

 

[DanL53]

what are you trying to say? Players shouldn't transfer if they play 10 minutes a game?

You are seriously the dumbest sack of rocks I have ever read on this or any board. You make Kilroy sound like a genius.

 

[David1979]

You are seriously the dumbest sack of rocks I have ever read on this or any board. You make Kilroy sound like a genius.

Why are you getting so mad? It was a simple question.

 

[DanL53]

Why are you getting so mad? It was a simple question.

I'm not mad. It was, a very simple question. Very simple. I'll just put ignore now....

 

[Ronman]

Last I heard, Melo hadn't made his decision. I assume he decided to return to Maryland?

 

[DenverTurtle]

Yeah both Trimble from Maryland and Hayes from Wisconsin are coming back.

I'm sad not to see Caleb Swanigan on the list of guys going pro immediately.

 

[HawkRugged17]

Yeah both Trimble from Maryland and Hayes from Wisconsin are coming back.

I'm sad not to see Caleb Swanigan on the list of guys going pro immediately.

http://www.jconline.com/story/sport.../breaking-swanigan-returning-purdue/84873558/

 

[BirdistheWord]

I'm not mad. It was, a very simple question. Very simple. I'll just put ignore now....

ignore because other poster asked question/wanted some clarification? wow

 

[DenverTurtle]

http://www.jconline.com/story/sport.../breaking-swanigan-returning-purdue/84873558/

Did you miss the word 'not'? In other words I wish Caleb Swanigan was NOT coming back to college basketball.

 

[HawkRugged17]

Did you miss the word 'not'? In other words I wish Caleb Swanigan was NOT coming back to college basketball.

I must have had temporary dyslexia. I read it as "I'm not sad to see Swanigan on the list ... " instead of "I'm sad not to see Swanigan on the list ... ". Apologies.

 

[Eternal Return]

The only thing really surprising to me was 4 guys playing 10+ minutes transferring from OSU. What's going on in Columbus?

Most disappointing news? Nigel Hayes staying in school. He was wicked as a junior; he's going to be a beast this year. Ugh.

 

[bucky44]

Nigel Hayes staying in school. He was wicked as a junior

No he wasn't. He became an inefficient, inconsistent, high volume shooter. He was very good defensively and became a solid ball handler, but his raw numbers made his offense look a lot better than it actually was. That being said, I expect him to shoot much better than 29% from 3 and be more efficient as he becomes less depended upon offensively next season.

 

[Eternal Return]

No he wasn't. He became an inefficient, inconsistent, high volume shooter. He was very good defensively and became a solid ball handler, but his raw numbers made his offense look a lot better than it actually was. That being said, I expect him to shoot much better than 29% from 3 and be more efficient as he becomes less depended upon offensively next season.

You may be right about the stats, but his presence on the court was a problem for most teams when I watched them play. He opened up a lot of space for other players, made their games look better than they were. He's tough.

 

[Eternal Return]

No he wasn't. He became an inefficient, inconsistent, high volume shooter. He was very good defensively and became a solid ball handler, but his raw numbers made his offense look a lot better than it actually was. That being said, I expect him to shoot much better than 29% from 3 and be more efficient as he becomes less depended upon offensively next season.

He turned it on the last 2/3 of the season, though. He's a tough matchup and because he seems to take each teams' best wing defender, it opens up other WI players to do more damage than they might otherwise. And, like you said, he's a tough defender. It's his all around game that concerns me more than his shooting. Yeah, if he was one-dimensional I wouldn't be concerned about him other than as a role player. With his experience, he's going to be WI's best all-around player next year.

 

[McK_Hawk]

So 2 seniors drafted in the first round, 2 seniors drafted in the 2nd round. Of the 4 that left early for the NBA, 2 drafted in the 2nd round and 2 not drafted at all. If Davis and Stone had played another year, they most likely would have gone first round. Seems like this years data says one should stay in school.