Net falls from 27 to 60. With each conference game usually bring a 1-7 spot NET swing Iowa is looking at needing a 12-8 league record to dance. 11-9 might get it done but that 1 loss looks like 3 from a metrics standpoint.
Ouch
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They certainly would but that’s usually for making it in or staying out. At this point I don’t think this loss would keep Iowa out but it makes it a lot tougher to get in.
Dancing?! Don’t talk about—dancing? You kidding me? Dancing!?!
I took part in a bracketology class last season that was really interesting stuff. It featured a former committee member and some hobbyists who are usually ranked pretty highly on BracketMatrix. I can't remember which team it was that was being discussed, but they had a similar thing happen where they had injuries in a bad loss. They basically said it's only brought up in discussions in tie breaker scenarios where 2 or 3 teams have resumes that are similar. There's just too many teams that go 2 or 3 game stretches with guys missing time for them to factor in every single injury.
I understand the logic, if your playing a representative team,
EIU had 3 wins, 1 vs NAIA, 1 vs D3, and 1 vs 3-10 IUPUI.
pthe spread was 31 points
this is a bad team, any NCAA tourney team should beat them with their bench players.
this is solely on Fran for getting run out of the gym in 2h and his brain freeze on refusal To use his bench
surely there can be no lessons learned by the starters by having to endure it
For Iowa to lose to a team that might not win an intramural tournament in Iowa City is inexcusable. EIU was the 350th worst team in the country, and Iowa lost to them by NINE. The Hawkeyes got run out of their own gym in the second half. All you can hope after such a total embarrassment is that it fuels this team to a surprising Big Ten run, which is possible, but it's gonna take great energy and effort every single minutes of every single game. We'll see if this team has that in them.
But for now, the EIU loss is easily one of the top five worst losses in all of Iowa basketball history. A 32-point favorite, and you lose by NINE . . .
But for now, the EIU loss is easily one of the top five worst losses in all of Iowa basketball history. A 32-point favorite, and you lose by NINE . . .
Zero coaching input necessary to win this game,... this one is on the players.
When it drops you from 27-60 it might. We will clearly have many opportunities to get wins but the B1G is very mediocre this year. IU as usual way overhyped and weak at guard. Pummeled by KU and Arizona. And they were the preseason favorite. Purdue clearly the class of the league but after that it’s a lot of mediocrity.
This game certainly doesn't put "butts in seats" for future games.
Just pathetic even without two starters.
Just pathetic even without two starters.
If nothing else at least Fran got his upset loss early so come March people will forget about it….also eliminates any chance of Iowa getting upset in the tourney (IF they make it).
So not all bad I suppose.
So not all bad I suppose.
I thought the impressive part was giving up 3 straight dunks to a 6'2" guard.
Correct. Technically of course Iowa could lose every game from here until the conference tournament and still get in. But this one result was like losing 4 or 5 straight Big 10 games, or worse. This game was absolutely devastating to Iowa's chances to get in the tourney. For all the talk of the tough non-conference slate, Iowa played exactly 3 good teams in the non-conference, Duke, TCU and Iowa State. TCU and Duke, Iowa was not competitive. Iowa State was a good win. Clemson and Seton hall were decent wins (Clemson 60 and Seton Hall 66 in Pomeroy), as Clemson was on neutral court and Seton Hall on the road. But losing to a team as bad as Eastern Illinois, at home, is just not a loss a NCAA team has. Ever.
If the team is able to get up off the mat and get to the tournament, it will be quite a bounce back for Fran. The injuries to Murray and Connor have really hurt, and it appears to me that Perkins hasn't been 100% healthy since the Seton Hall game. And then Sandfordt just turned into a pumpkin and has not been close to a good Big 10 player.
Who is the second starter missing. Box score I see only Kris
Edit: never mind, I just don't consider Connor "starter" material...
If the players are going to mail it in from here on out, fans are, too. No eyeballs on the tube, no ears listening to the radio, no butts in the seat, no contributors to their NIL fund.
This is too early in the season for me to again be fed up with the coach and the mediocre talent players that make up most of his teams.
But this loss put me there.
11 conference wins minimum is now the requirement.
This year, Connor has been one of our 3 or 4 best players.
Having a truly terrible performance like that should come with a significant penalty. I think the formula is rather generous that they only dropped to 60.
At the end of the season that sh!tshow of a game will be the leading contender for worst performance of the year by a power conference team.
At the end of the season that sh!tshow of a game will be the leading contender for worst performance of the year by a power conference team.
He ran his horses to death by playing them the entire 2nd half, 3 guys went 20 minutes, and couldn’t play defense
out scored 19-2 in Fast break points
for god sake a 1st yr jr high coach knows to sit tired players when they can’t get back in D
Do you agree this is a coaching blunder ?
Fortunately, I didn't see the game. It sounds like it was the biggest embarrassment in Fran's years as coach at Iowa. I would probably agree with you, but you seem to be happy to call out Fran's "blunders" after almost every game. Balance that with giving Fran credit now and them, and you might have a little more credibility.
Lol. Didn't see the game in any way shape or form but I am extremely confident that with the dunk a thon that occurred in that game EIU would fair just fine in any intramural game in Iowa City
blunders I laid out include
- EIU. in 2H allowed starters to play nearly entire 2H, despite allowing 55 points, 19-2 fast break, 72% FG. This subbing is totally on Fran. Running a horse to death is on the rider, not the horse.
- WI. pulling Rebraca for Kingsbury , to go with Sandfort, Perkins, CMac, Dix, WI goes on 9-0, erasing a 6 point deficit, as WI gets 3 layups, a 3 pointer in 6 FGA, WTH? it can’t be argued that this wasn’t a blunder? We’ll know becuse we’ll never see anything close to this agin
- ISU. With a 30 point lead, Fran refuses to go to his bench playing 3 starters +36 minutes, brown 2 min, missing a golden opportunity to develop game experience, onky to then start Bowen the next game owing to Ulis injury. What a blunder .
BTW, I’ve many time said in Fran I Trust, I’m glad he’s here, but that doesn’t mean he’s above criticism
And you obviously haven't seen any intramural games in Iowa City either. You think an IM team would stand around and let EIU dunk on them all game? LOL
Since we obviously had the ability to play this poorly, this was probably the best time to do it,.. Players need to accept this as a learning moment and remember it moving forward.
At what point do we not have to worry about a Fran coached team playing with max effort? It’s like this every year, we have a few games like this that are “wake-up” type games where we’re reminded that effort is actually needed on the defensive end. Then go a handful of games playing well with good effort, then another lackadaisical game, and the cycle repeats. Fran has NEVER demanded max effort on the defensive end and it’s been his downfall throughout his whole career. Great offensive coach, horrible defensive coach. Doesn’t appear that will ever change
Mostly we need to get healthy very soon. The Hawks are NOT a deep team this year, especially at 4/5. If we lose in LIncoln, it is hard to see this team finishing in the top half of the league.
Correct. And losing focus right before Christmas was tough to take but when we are healthy and have a learning experience like this we might still see some great things from this team. I would hope connor and filipa have talked to the team and done some leadership stuff. Like throw some basketballs in the showers ar the team. Lollygaggers!
