Payton's Struggles

[LincolnHawkeye]

At this point, I think it's clear the Payton is struggling this year. He's had a couple of good games, played decently against Northwestern and Michigan, but really fell apart against Utah St and Iowa St. This is supposed to be the leader of the team and right now, he has the 3rd best efficiency rating and is shooting 31% from 3 (27% against top 100 teams). I hope he can turn it around because he might be hurting his draft stock if his season keeps going this way.

 

[HawkeyeGenius]

I'll give him some grace with a wrist injury, but if it's bugging you that much then why are you shooting 13 threes against Utah State.

 

[Stemar]

He is so bad defensively.

 

[icwesthawk]

He can't shoot unless his feet are set and that's why he won't play in the league. He was told he needed to work on it and he's keeps trying to shoot on the run, he's terrible at it. Give him a standstill jumper and he's much better than average. The wrist is clearly a problem too.

 

[ItsAllBallBearingsNowadays]

So tired of hearing about the sore wrist. If it’s hindering him that much he needs to rest it. Because the rest of his game is a liability if he can’t hit threes.

 

[denmar81]

If his wrist is an issue then he should sit until it doesn’t bother his shot. He’s not helping the team chucking up bricks.

 

[RocknRollface]

The idea that he has a chance at the nba is a problem because it causing a disconnect from reality.

He's trying to play a role that he's not capable of excelling in.

He's a streaky spot up shooter.

 

[Mohawkeye]

Payton’s good at converting off balance shots near the bucket and rebounding. He needs to concentrate on those two things, especially rebounding, because that’s what this team needs.

If he’s healthy, his 3 shot will come around. He’s always been extremely streaky.

 

[Kaiser_Soze]

It's a typical Iowa team. Awful on defense, awful on the glass. When the shots don't go down they will lose because they give up so many points. It's no surprise apathy for men's hoops is at a 20 year peak. The women sell out Carver, the men are not even close. I wonder why......?

 

[ObeseMuffins]

I had a similar injury and it didn’t heal for two years. Doctors have probably advised him it probably can’t worse. I bet he’ll get surgery in the summer.

 

[RocknRollface]

I had a similar injury and it didn’t heal for two years. Doctors have probably advised him it probably can’t worse. I bet he’ll get surgery in the summer.

Maybe more off balance 3 point attempts will cure him?

 

[SoonerBeAHawk]

I dunno anymore about his celebrated quick release. Just doesn't seem to lend itself to accuracy when the shot is so rushed.

In the trades laying down bricks quickly is a valuable skill, but no so much in basketball.

 

[BrewHawk]

His mechanics are really poor right now.

Waaaay too rushed and this leads to drifting on a lot of them. Others, he is too well covered, but still tries to jack it up in a hurry.

If he had better shot selection, he would look much, much better and we might have 1-2 more wins.

 

[LincolnHawkeye]

The idea that he has a chance at the nba is a problem because it causing a disconnect from reality.

He's trying to play a role that he's not capable of excelling in.

He's a streaky spot up shooter.

I've never seen him as a real NBA player. If Joe Weiskamp can't make it in the league, then Payton has no chance.

 

[kceasthawk]

At this point, I think it's clear the Payton is struggling this year. He's had a couple of good games, played decently against Northwestern and Michigan, but really fell apart against Utah St and Iowa St. This is supposed to be the leader of the team and right now, he has the 3rd best efficiency rating and is shooting 31% from 3 (27% against top 100 teams). I hope he can turn it around because he might be hurting his draft stock if his season keeps going this way.

"Might". The only thing he had in his bag was some of those crazy three's he throws in, and thats so hit and miss with him. Other then that, theres nothing about his game that says, "this guys a pro".

 

[Hawks2405]

It’s about the jimmy and joes, not the X’s and O’s. ISU has dogs that hit clutch 3’s from 5 feet behind the arc. Our senior “shooter” can’t buy a bucket right now. If your shot isn’t falling, pump fake and go to the basket. He’s still 6’7”. There are other options, like pass the ball quickly to another teammate for an open look rather than jacking up some off balance, awkward shot.

 

[BlameIt]

Payton will make hundreds of thousands each year overseas.

If i had the ability, I'd so the same. Easy choice.

 

[intrepodor]

Payton will make hundreds of thousands each year overseas.

If i had the ability, I'd so the same. Easy choice.

Overseas is the key word

 

[ozzie8]

He is so bad defensively.

He is, but I don’t blame him. He’s allowed to get away with it

 

[BlameIt]

Overseas is the key word

Millions of people would gladly trade him. Will probably pocket 5mil if he can stay healthy. Retire around 30 years old

 

[MitchLL]

So tired of hearing about the sore wrist. If it’s hindering him that much he needs to rest it. Because the rest of his game is a liability if he can’t hit threes.

Yep...the definition of "one dimensional".

 

[hahkize]

If his wrist is an issue then he should sit until it doesn’t bother his shot. He’s not helping the team chucking up bricks.

Especially in a game (ISU <7 min left) where his team needed some type of points to answer a run.

 

[goodbyebobby]

Dix should be option #1.

 

[Rambler Hawk]

He is so bad defensively.

He try’s, but just not quick enough against good competition….

 

[Bank of Hawk]

payton is this team’s golden boy. Always in good graces with Fran, no matter how he plays

 

[Hendy hawk]

Looked like he was shooting a little better today.

 

[WestCoastHawkI]

Looked like he was shooting a little better today.

He does that against lower competition. Put him up against some athletes who know how to ball and he's very pedestrian.

 

[SI_NYC]

He can't shoot unless his feet are set and that's why he won't play in the league. He was told he needed to work on it and he's keeps trying to shoot on the run, he's terrible at it. Give him a standstill jumper and he's much better than average. The wrist is clearly a problem too.

Exactly. He needs to stop shooting bad off balance shots. He’s forcing shots early in the shot clock when he can get the same shot at any point. If he starts shooting balanced squared up threes, he will be a killer.

 

[WestCoastHawkI]

Exactly. He needs to stop shooting bad off balance shots. He’s forcing shots early in the shot clock when he can get the same shot at any point. If he starts shooting balanced squared up threes, he will be a killer.

I’m not sure about killer, but would definitely improve the team’s efficiency and his shot percentage.

People always bring up that a 3 point shooter only needs to make 33% of their 3s to be equal to 50% of 2 pointers. What that stat doesn’t take into consideration is how many more possessions you give your opponent on missed 3s. When Payton goes 3/10 he is giving the other team 7 more opportunities to get the ball and score. He needs to chill out on the volume as well.