Pemsl Is...
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A kid who wants to win and is willing to fight for the W.
Awesome post moves for a guy that is always going to be a couple inches shorter than the guy guarding him. Would love to see him work on his explosion and lateral quicks as well as his outside shot. I think he has it in him to be a really good shooter because his stroke looks solid. Might just take some time.
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I've been saying this as well. I've been yearning for another Ed Horton since, well, Ed Horton.
Although I'd say Reggie Evans did a pretty good impression.
Good point. While I loved Reggie as a Hawk, I did not love those teams. The whole Alford experiment—I was not in favor of it.Although I'd say Reggie Evans did a pretty good impression.
I rooted for them, don't get me wrong, but that era tends to be easily forgotten for me.
I got laughed off of here when I said after his first few games that he's tougher than Woodbury. He's tougher than Woodbury. It's his attitude. Not physical strength. He didn't back down from Haas last night. (A guy that has 5 inches and 50 lbs on him.) He's the type of player you need to get in the heads of other teams. Woodbury was a poser. Loved what he brought to the team defensively. But everybody could see through that fake tough guy facade.
I don't think Woody was a poser, the kid was tough as nails, he just didn't have the offensive game or offensive talent that Pemsl has BUT Woody made that defense work for 4 years. The minute he stepped on campus the Iowa defense immediately got better and kept getting better the time he was here. Just look at the drop off we saw early in the season without him calling the defense from the back side and the amount of offensive rebounds we give up (Woody was great at positioning and boxing out the back side defenders so everyone on the team had a better chance of grabbing the board).
No reason to kick any sand on him, kid was a warrior on that side of the ball.
I was thinking this is best Freshman class since Raveling pulled in Marble, Ed Horton, and BJ armstrong.
Pemsl probably is the equivalent of Ed Horton in this year's class by position, but of course is different from Ed in that he is much more polished offensively.
If Pemsl and Cook develop 15 ft shots, look out B1G.
Pemsl probably is the equivalent of Ed Horton in this year's class by position, but of course is different from Ed in that he is much more polished offensively.
If Pemsl and Cook develop 15 ft shots, look out B1G.
Woody didnt lack toughness. He lacked ability.
You don't get an Ed Horton analogy until you break someone's neck.
Woody was tough as a LL Bean boot's leather. Pemsyl is tough. He's going to be a brute by the time he leaves the program. Except, unlike guy's like Evans and Woody, Pemsyl has great low post moves and is a scoring threat when he get's it deep.
Woody was tough as a LL Bean boot's leather. Pemsyl is tough. He's going to be a brute by the time he leaves the program. Except, unlike guy's like Evans and Woody, Pemsyl has great low post moves and is a scoring threat when he get's it deep.
Pemsl has more offensive moves now than Horton had as a a senior at Iowa or Reggie, after five years in the league.
He and Cook, mainly Cook, seemed to learn how to play together last night. This is going to be a lot of fun to watch evolve.
He and Cook, mainly Cook, seemed to learn how to play together last night. This is going to be a lot of fun to watch evolve.
...and only one. Fortunate is the fan Who Sees a Horton.There can be only one....
I wonder if Haas has ever went for a loose ball or rebound tied up with a player, ended up on the floor still not gaining sole possession of the ball twice in the same game?
I love Pemsl..heck i love all these freshman, but Pemsl is one tough ombre.
Well, one of those two led the country in double doubles and won the rebounding title in the big 10 twice. Also, one guy played one season in the NBA and and the other guy played like 12 years and average double digit rebounds in a few of those years. One of these guys once had 22 points and 26 rebounds in an NBA game. One of these guys started 56 games in an NBA season.
Listen, I grew up watching Ed Horton and loved Ed and those teams. But, in the end, it's not much of a comparison.
Cordell has more post moves than Reggie ever dreamed of.. but Cordell can't get off the ground like Reggie could. A better comparison would be Tyler and Reggie
Fun to watch and a great, skilled competitor with a lot of poise. Oh, and he doesn't say "Biiiiiih Tiiiiime!" when interviewed like (the great) Reggie Evans.
That is a good arguement, but I still disagree that Reggie was a better overall basketball player. Both were badasses. I think we can agree on that.
Toughness is great, no question. But Iowa has had "tough" guys in the paint for a long time. Woody was tough, heck Wagner is tough.
But when, since Horton, have we had a guy in the paint that can finish the way Pemsl does? He makes a strong move then finishes with touch. Incredible for a freshman.
And, with Cook, we might have two!
But when, since Horton, have we had a guy in the paint that can finish the way Pemsl does? He makes a strong move then finishes with touch. Incredible for a freshman.
And, with Cook, we might have two!
I do not think Woodbury was fake tough at all. He would not back down to any one or any situation. The attitude was the real thing
Bullcrap. Woodbury was tough as nails. You don't become a great rebounder and defender like he was without being tough. Even as a freshmen he never backed down against bigger players. Problem was the rest of the team was soft. Not sure why you have to take a shot at Woodbury to compliment Pemsl. But everyone always loved railing on the guy.
I see a lot of similarites between Horton and Pemsl, both lack jumping skills but have wide bodies and are crafty around the basket. I think Pemsl is actually a little quicker and a better ball handler with better touch and better feet at the same stage, but if he ends up as good as Eddie then I'll be thrilled.
Seems like an argument for Lawyers and wording. Reggie was rebounding specialist and he did it at NBA worthy level. Not much else to his college game as he missed a lot of putbacks and had no low post moves.
If Pemsl improves his rebounding, his offensive skills will make him better college player while not being an NBA caliber player. Unless Pemsl transforms his game to be a George Niang II, I don't see him having NBA career to match Reggie's.
Reggie was a terrible jumper! He was just incredibly strong, wide and had long arms.
I'd take Ed Horton over Reggie, although I loved them both. Reggie was the best rebounder I've ever seen, but he was extremely limited offensively and had terrible hands. If the pass wasn't perfect, he couldn't catch it. And many of his rebounds came when he missed the first shot and got his own rebound. He was relentless that way. Eddie was a very good rebounder and much more skilled offensively. Plus, Reggie was a bit on the selfish side, Eddie more of a team player.
