Pence calls for national abortion ban as Trump, GOP celebrate end of Roe

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As Republicans across the United States are celebrating the Supreme Court decision Friday to overturn the fundamental right to an abortion established in Roe v. Wade, former vice president Mike Pence is calling for a national ban on the procedure, while former president Donald Trump argued the court’s decision is “something that will work out for everybody.”

In an interview with Breitbart News, Pence said that the Supreme Court voting 6 to 3 to uphold a restrictive Mississippi law banning almost all abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy “has given the American people a new beginning for life, and I commend the justices in the majority for having the courage of their convictions.”
After saying that “life won” on Friday, Pence, who is considered a potential GOP contender in the 2024 presidential election, went one step further by arguing the court’s decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health should lead to a national ban on abortion.







“Now that Roe v. Wade has been consigned to the ash heap of history, a new arena in the cause of life has emerged, and it is incumbent on all who cherish the sanctity of life to resolve that we will take the defense of the unborn and the support for women in crisis pregnancy centers to every state in America,” he said to Breitbart. “Having been given this second chance for Life, we must not rest and must not relent until the sanctity of life is restored to the center of American law in every state in the land.”
Pence’s remarks came as Trump praised the Supreme Court’s decision in a Friday interview with Fox News.
“This is following the Constitution, and giving rights back when they should have been given long ago,” Trump told the network. “I think, in the end, this is something that will work out for everybody.”







Trump made three appointments to the Supreme Court — Justices Neil M. Gorsuch, Brett M. Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett — that tilted the high court 6-to-3 in conservatives’ favor. While in office, Trump billed himself as “the most pro-life president in American history,” and he garnered support from right-wing religious groups and antiabortion activists because of his moves to curb abortion rights.
Asked on Fox News about his role in the Supreme Court’s decision, Trump said, “God made the decision.”

 
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The man most responsible for shaping a United States Supreme Court that delivered the conservative movement a long-sought victory has spent weeks saying he didn’t think it will be good for his party.
Publicly, after a draft of the likely decision leaked in May, former President Donald J. Trump was remarkably tight-lipped for weeks about the possible decision, which the court ultimately handed down on Friday, ending federal abortion protections. But privately, Mr. Trump has told people repeatedly that he believes it will be “bad for Republicans.”
The decision, Mr. Trump has told friends and advisers, will anger suburban women, a group who helped tilt the 2020 presidential race to Joseph R. Biden Jr., and will lead to a backlash against Republicans in the November midterm elections.
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In other conversations, Mr. Trump has told people that measures like the six-week abortion ban in Texas, which allows people to file lawsuits against those who enable abortions beyond that time-frame, are “so stupid,” according to a person with direct knowledge of the discussions. The Supreme Court let the measure stand in December 2021.

His advisers had encouraged Mr. Trump to keep quiet about the issue of abortion until a ruling was released, in part to ensure he was not accused of trying to influence the decision. Still, the contrast between Mr. Trump and conservatives who have heralded the decision and who worked in his administration, such as former Vice President Mike Pence, has been striking. On Friday morning, Mr. Pence issued a statement saying, “Life won,” as he called for abortion opponents to keep fighting “in every state in the land.”
A spokesman for Mr. Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment about his private remarks, or his view of the ruling. But in an interview that Fox News published after the decision on Friday, Mr. Trump, asked about his role, said, “God made the decision.” He said the decision was “following the Constitution, and giving rights back when they should have been given long ago.”
“I think, in the end, this is something that will work out for everybody,” Mr. Trump told Fox News.
By early afternoon on Friday, Mr. Trump put out a statement taking a victory lap, including applauding himself for sticking by his choice of nominees. All three of Mr. Trump’s appointees to the court were in the majority in the 6-to-3 ruling.
“Today’s decision, which is the biggest WIN for LIFE in a generation, along with other decisions that have been announced recently, were only made possible because I delivered everything as promised, including nominating and getting three highly respected and strong Constitutionalists confirmed to the United States Supreme Court,” Mr. Trump said.
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Mr. Trump supported abortion rights for many years, although he said he abhorred the procedure. In 2011, preparing for a possible campaign, he reversed course and told a conservative political conference that he opposed abortion rights. And throughout his political career, he has privately called it a “tough issue” and publicly struggled to discuss it.

In an interview with The New York Times in May, Mr. Trump uttered an eyebrow-raising demurral in response to a question about the central role he had played in tipping the balance on the Supreme Court and paving the way for the reversal of Roe v. Wade.
“I never like to take credit for anything,” said Mr. Trump, who spent his career affixing his name to almost anything he could.
Pressed to describe his feelings about having helped assemble a court that was on the verge of erasing the ruling that protected abortion rights, Mr. Trump refused to engage the question and instead focused on the leak of the draft opinion in early May.
“I don’t know what the decision is,” he said. “We’ve been reading about something that was drawn months ago. Nobody knows what that decision is. A draft is a draft.”

 

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Of course Pence is saying this. Number one, he's a grifter. He's grifting off of the pro life crowd. Two, he's a zealot, and the zealots will never be satisfied as along as their religious views are not imposed upon everyone.
 

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Donald "just say there was corruption" Trump must be elated seeing his three supreme court picks coming through for him. Never mind that they lied through their teeth in the senate confirmation hearing when they said they would uphold precedence when addressing Roe v Wade. Murkowski and Collins must be livid as they actually believed their bs.
 

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Donald "just say there was corruption" Trump must be elated seeing his three supreme court picks coming through for him. Never mind that they lied through their teeth in the senate confirmation hearing when they said they would uphold precedence when addressing Roe v Wade. Murkowski and Collins must be livid as they actually believed their bs.
Murkowski and Collins knew exactly who they were voting for. They just wanted the excuse/cover to do it.
 

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Pence is desperately trying to keep a large chunk of the GOP base engaged. The GOP has a lot of single issue voters, and with Roe in the rearview mirror, there is a real fear in GOP circles that their voters will not come out in November.
 
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Trump, the only president who probably paid for an (most likely multiple) abortion, should just sthu.
There is a reason he has kept Keith Schiller on the payroll all of these years. The one guy he has never screwed over is Schiller.
 
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A lot of those "single issue voters" don't like $5 gasoline either.
Gas prices go up, and they go down. Government control of the lives of citizens is forever. And, the right is going to massively overplay their hand with restrictive laws. You will see laws in multiple states restricting contraception, and muddling around in all manner of health care for women.
And, as mentioned, then they will branch out to go after the homos.
 

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Pence was raised in a conservative Catholic household, but found the anti-abortion, anti-birth control, anti-sodomy & bjs, anti-homosexual and anti-gay marriage Catholic Church far too liberal for his beliefs, so he became an evangelical Christian.
 

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Donald "just say there was corruption" Trump must be elated seeing his three supreme court picks coming through for him. Never mind that they lied through their teeth in the senate confirmation hearing when they said they would uphold precedence when addressing Roe v Wade. Murkowski and Collins must be livid as they actually believed their bs.
If you can't trust a SC Justice to tell the truth, who can you trust? Very sad and disturbing.
 
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If you can't trust a SC Justice to tell the truth, who can you trust? Very sad and disturbing.

Kavanaugh has the moral character of a pimp. There was a witness testifying to his low-life character and assault and we saw man under scrutiny for the highest court in the land, crying and repeatedly saying how he likes "beer".

This is the best the Republicans can produce.
The Judicial Committee approves this quality of candidate.
Murkowski and Collins were fooled by his dishonesty?
 

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Calling for a national abortion ban or national abortion protections is just politically crazy.

You could never get the 60 votes for either side to break the filibuster so neither one would pass.

Furthermore if you decide to eliminate the filibuster for it then you are just opening it up so the other side can do the opposite the moment they take power.
 

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Of course Pence is saying this. Number one, he's a grifter. He's grifting off of the pro life crowd. Two, he's a zealot, and the zealots will never be satisfied as along as their religious views are not imposed upon everyone.
Exactly right on both. Pence would definitely use his religious views as a political platform, and try to impose those views on everyone.
 

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I’m not happy about roe v wade being overturned. Should not have happened. How much will this taint RBG’s legacy? She was the one that basically allowed this to happen. Breyer wasn’t going to make the same mistake.
 

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Calling for a national abortion ban or national abortion protections is just politically crazy.

You could never get the 60 votes for either side to break the filibuster so neither one would pass.

Furthermore if you decide to eliminate the filibuster for it then you are just opening it up so the other side can do the opposite the moment they take power.
Bingo. And getting rid of the filibuster for judicial nominees by Reed and McConnell put us in this mess.
 

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2 countries. We just need 2 countries.

It’s not gonna be fun. There’s lots of crap to love and legal things to sort out but it will be best for the kids if we just went our separate ways
 

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2 countries. We just need 2 countries.

It’s not gonna be fun. There’s lots of crap to love and legal things to sort out but it will be best for the kids if we just went our separate ways
We don’t need the country to be divided by political party affiliation. We need to ship the crazy fringes to a deserted island where they can have at it.
 
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2 countries. We just need 2 countries.

It’s not gonna be fun. There’s lots of crap to love and legal things to sort out but it will be best for the kids if we just went our separate ways

So, the losers win. It only took 6 pathetic years. We fought World Wars, a Civil war, went through a depression, several periods of civil stress and it took a shit stained 4 year presidential term in which he chose 3 ultra-radical Supreme Court nominees who were approved by an anemic, complicit congress and we have a country devastated by internal forces.

And,... there are people, maybe even you celebrating it. 2 countries. I grew up believing in the concept of the United States of America. I truly feel the right wingers don't share this concept. They wear the flag on their sleeve without understanding what it means.
 
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We don’t need the country to be divided by political party affiliation. We need to ship the crazy fringes to a deserted island where they can have at it.

There is no island big enough.

Just move them to the south, let them have their guns and abortion protections. We’ll still have to tolerate each other, want to remain civil, and can share sports leagues and stuff.

It’s all just dirt and shared expenses. No reason we need to continue.
 

globalhawk

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There is no island big enough.

Just move them to the south, let them have their guns and abortion protections. We’ll still have to tolerate each other, want to remain civil, and can share sports leagues and stuff.

It’s all just dirt and shared expenses. No reason we need to continue.
A little too dramatic for me.
 

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There is no island big enough.

Just move them to the south, let them have their guns and abortion protections. We’ll still have to tolerate each other, want to remain civil, and can share sports leagues and stuff.

It’s all just dirt and shared expenses. No reason we need to continue

A modern-day Australia. I think there are some people that would actually go for this. It would have to be a separate country, say Greenland, tropical or otherwise. It would be goodbye and good riddance from the rest of us. Forfeiture of assets and ownership. Setup the shitty governance they want and blow themselves away with the weapons of their choice.

The number of states (50) remain with the citizens given the option to opt to live in the newly created country. That decision would be permanent, non-rescindable, and would include the condition the decision forfeits access and to privileges available to U.S. citizens for current and future generations.

Oh well, it could make an interesting book or movie.
 
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A modern-day Australia. I think there are some people that would actually go for this. It would have to be a separate country, say Greenland, tropical or otherwise. It would be goodbye and good riddance from the rest of us. Forfeiture of assets and ownership. Setup the shitty governance they want and blow themselves away with the weapons of their choice.

The number of states (50) remain with the citizens given the option to opt to live in the newly created country. That decision would be permanent, non-rescindable, and would include the condition the decision forfeits access and to privileges available to U.S. citizens for current and future generations.

Oh well, it could make an interesting book or movie.
I was thinking more like Antarctica.
 

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