Peyton Mansell and Spencer Petras

[justinjdry]

I'm surprised there hasn't been much discussion on the board about these two. Watching their recruiting highlight videos they are two very contrasting qb's with Mansell being a dual threat with great movement and the ability to run the ball just as well as throw the ball and Petras being a solid arm qb with little movement in the pocket. They both have impressive highlight videos. Petras has one heck of an arm and most of his highlights are 30+ yard bombs down field.

Mansell was a redshirt last season while Petras has enrolled in classes and is in true freshmen status.

According to various articles I've read about them, they both seem very headstrong and competitive and are willing to do what it takes to earn the starting role. Right now, I just can't see a BF offense incorporating a dual threat qb into the mix but as of now Mansell is still there and still eager to fight for the starting position. I believe with Weigers transfer, he is now listed as the official backup to Stanley. So with that being said, if Stanley ever goes down we have a dual threat qb going in to run an offense that is in no way set up for that type of qb. So it'll be interesting to see how that would play out.

I read somewhere that Petras on the other hand threw for 50 touchdowns to only 2 interceptions his senior year in excess of 4000 yards. And judging by his videos he would fit in well with a BF offense especially with receivers able to burn the secondary.

I also read somewhere that Peyton Mansell was coached by former NFL QB Jeff Blake at some point and that Spencer Petras was coached by the same high school coach as first overall pick and current NFL starter Jared Goff and that Petras and Goff remain friends. Interesting stuff.

Sorry if any of my info is incorrect. I didn't feel like digging around and I got bored while sitting on the can so here ye' be with my boredom post.

So any thoughts?

 

[HoustonHawkeye]

Either QB will work. Easier for a DT QB to sit in the pocket than a pocket QB to become a DT QB. I believe we had a QB by the name of Brad Banks who was a DT QB who played in the pocket. 2 years before we will know the answer.

 

[pacnorthhawkeye]

Hoping we see 2 more years Stanley, 2 years Mansell and 2 years Petras....if not...no worries...it ain’t a perfect world.

 

[Rustys Dad]

I think having stiff competition will make all of the QBs better. I think the future of the QB position at Iowa is set for a few years. I really expect Stanley to have an outstanding final two seasons. It wouldn't shock me if Petras overtakes Mansell (as the #2) after he gets a year under his belt. I'm really excited about Petras. I think he could be a tremendous steal for Iowa.

 

[Harbinger273]

Hoping we see 2 more years Stanley, 2 years Mansell and 2 years Petras....if not...no worries...it ain’t a perfect world.

so their would have to be a season ending injury somewhere along the way for Petras, right? ill go with 3 for stanley and 3 for Petras.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

So, 3 really good QB's are at Iowa at the same time. Awesome!

How about some really good receivers to compliment them?

 

[pacnorthhawkeye]

so their would have to be a season ending injury somewhere along the way for Petras, right? ill go with 3 for stanley and 3 for Petras.

Or early exit to the draft

 

[TonyTheTiger.1865]

It is obvious the OP is trying to stir up a QB controversy were none exists.

 

[TonyTheTiger.1865]

The ability to run with the ball when necessary is why we went 12 - 2 with Beathard.

 

[KuwaitHawk]

What if Stanley had a GREAT year and left after his junior high season?

 

[brokenarrow73]

I think having stiff competition will make all of the QBs better. I think the future of the QB position at Iowa is set for a few years. I really expect Stanley to have an outstanding final two seasons. It wouldn't shock me if Petras overtakes Mansell (as the #2) after he gets a year under his belt. I'm really excited about Petras. I think he could be a tremendous steal for Iowa.

well based on what colleges are doing today and even now the pros are starting to like those dual-threat on pass option quarterbacks I'd like to see Manziel in the Iowa offense. We did pretty good with a couple of dual-threat quarterbacks and Brad Banks and Drew Tate they could move a little bit. We've seen the battering our quarterbacks have taken the last few years just saying I don't care who's the best option to win. I'm a little Leary of crowning some California quarterback who's never played any college football as the king of the competition that's for sure

 

[The Sleeping Dog]

Either QB will work. Easier for a DT QB to sit in the pocket than a pocket QB to become a DT QB. I believe we had a QB by the name of Brad Banks who was a DT QB who played in the pocket. 2 years before we will know the answer.

One of the more astute comments seen on this site in years.

 

[justinjdry]

It is obvious the OP is trying to stir up a QB controversy were none exists.

Wow! Is it?

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

well based on what colleges are doing today and even now the pros are starting to like those dual-threat on pass option quarterbacks I'd like to see Manziel in the Iowa offense. We did pretty good with a couple of dual-threat quarterbacks and Brad Banks and Drew Tate they could move a little bit. We've seen the battering our quarterbacks have taken the last few years just saying I don't care who's the best option to win. I'm a little Leary of crowning some California quarterback who's never played any college football as the king of the competition that's for sure

Actually NFL teams are desperate to find pro style QBs who actually have reads and check downs as opposed to the RPO QB and the 1 check system offense-oregan, WSU, Oklahoma, OSU, etc all are successful in college but do disservice to QB as they are unprepared for NFL offense. And no those offenses don’t work in the NFL

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

So, 3 really good QB's are at Iowa at the same time. Awesome!

How about some really good receivers to compliment them?

and a decent punter

 

[HwkOnHwkLuv]

QBs that can run>QBs that are not mobile. Stanley does look good coming off the bus though.

 

[DodgerHawki]

So, 3 really good QB's are at Iowa at the same time. Awesome!

How about some really good receivers to compliment them?

We have no idea if we have 3 really good QB's on the team right now. We know we have 1 good to possibly better guy as the starter, and 2 other guys with good high school film. Every scholarship QB at a P5 school has good high school film, all that tells us is what they are starting with.

Agree on the receivers part. If 1-2 additional guys emerge in addition to Easley and IKM, Iowa has something.

 

[Herkmeister]

Steel sharpens steel my man.........

 

[hawkandroll]

well based on what colleges are doing today and even now the pros are starting to like those dual-threat on pass option quarterbacks I'd like to see Manziel in the Iowa offense. We did pretty good with a couple of dual-threat quarterbacks and Brad Banks and Drew Tate they could move a little bit. We've seen the battering our quarterbacks have taken the last few years just saying I don't care who's the best option to win. I'm a little Leary of crowning some California quarterback who's never played any college football as the king of the competition that's for sure

There's no way KF would put up with Manziel's attitude, behavior, or general sense of being.

 

[justinjdry]

There's no way KF would put up with Manziel's attitude, behavior, or general sense of being.

I think he meant Mansell. I think...

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

It's good to have contrasting talent ... and, even more importantly, it's important for the talent to still fit the "culture" of the O. Beathard's style of play, especially when he was healthy, falls more in line with that Mansell brings to the table. However, if you look at guys like Vandenberg or Stanley ... Petras fits more of the mold set by those guys.

Such talent will push each other forward and improve the level of competition in the QB room. Something like that cannot be anything but a good thing ... especially since Stanley is the clear top QB ... thus, he'll be able to mentor the guys behind him ... but their battle will help to raise the level of play from everybody.

The spring will be interesting because the WR room will be a better situation than it was last year ... but it will still be relatively depleted due to graduation and attrition. Obviously we gain Nico to the room .... but we've also lost VandeBerg, Quarrels, and Falconer. Thus, the WR room, during the spring, will largely be manned by Easley, Ihmir, Smith, Cooper, Dafney (great walk-on special-teamer), Young, Marchese, Harrell, and Ragaini. Oddly enough, compared to last year, the current WR group looks like it benefits from a wealth of riches in comparison.

During the '17 spring camp ...

• The Hawks were implementing a new offensive system.
• The Hawk WRs had a new WR coach ... thus, there was the transition of getting used to a new position coach.
• The Hawks only had 2 healthy WRs on scholarship at the position.
• The Hawks were also needing to break in a new starting QB.

Now, looking to the '18 spring camp ...

• Even with the departures, the WR room still looks to have 8 guys on scholarship in the room (and they will gain 3 more during the summer). Furthermore, there is still the flexibility of moving Creamer over to the O if the need arises.
• Copeland is no longer a new face. Furthermore, now he likely will have extra help (if he needs it) from Foster ... because Foster also has quite a bit of experience mentoring WRs. Ferentz has mentioned that Foster is a guy who will be able to help us at a number of spots.
• Stanley is a proven guy at QB. Furthermore, guys like Petras and Mansell add some extra "octane" to the QB group.
• The base framework of the O has been established with the players ... so now more emphasis can be placed on ironing out execution and improving how the facets of the O "fit together."

It will be interesting to see how the passing game continues to evolve. Heck, we have a really nice group of TEs too ... they'll continue to add heat to the WRs to produce (otherwise more targets will continue to go towards the TEs).

 

[goodbyebobby]

I think having stiff competition will make all of the QBs better. I think the future of the QB position at Iowa is set for a few years. I really expect Stanley to have an outstanding final two seasons. It wouldn't shock me if Petras overtakes Mansell (as the #2) after he gets a year under his belt. I'm really excited about Petras. I think he could be a tremendous steal for Iowa.

Yes, Petras looks like the best natural QB we have had coming in outside of DT. That video is insane.

 

[E.RogerCoswell]

It is obvious the OP is trying to stir up a QB controversy were none exists.

Better than 7 threads on Nebraska, some racist's rant on hip hop being the cause of Jerry Sandusky and Larry Nassar's raping, or whatever the fear equals hate thread is about.

More Iowa football related threads, PLEASE!

 

[Hwk-I-St8]

For Iowa, the optimal QB isn't necessarily a true dual threat because we're not likely to use them that way. Someone that can elude pressure, extend and create, and run when it's there fits nicely. Russell Wilson was an outstanding example. Drew Tate fit that mold as well.

 

[nu2u]

For Iowa, the optimal QB isn't necessarily a true dual threat because we're not likely to use them that way. Someone that can elude pressure, extend and create, and run when it's there fits nicely. Russell Wilson was an outstanding example. Drew Tate fit that mold as well.

I agree. Stanley will be much more dangerous if, instead of making a high risk throw or taking the pocket sack, he will tuck it and scramble for a decent gain a couple times per game. He had many opportunities to do so last year ...... step up, side step a rusher, see 20 yards of open turf straight ahead - run for 12, slide, 1st down, drive stays alive.

He might not get a big gain every scramble but doing so occasionally will at least keep the LBs more aware that he can do so; right now they have no expectation that he will tuck and run.

 

[hawkandroll]

I agree. Stanley will be much more dangerous if, instead of making a high risk throw or taking the pocket sack, he will tuck it and scramble for a decent gain a couple times per game. He had many opportunities to do so last year ...... step up, side step a rusher, see 20 yards of open turf straight ahead - run for 12, slide, 1st down, drive stays alive.

He might not get a big gain every scramble but doing so occasionally will at least keep the LBs more aware that he can do so; right now they have no expectation that he will tuck and run.

He's tall enough that he only needs about 6 strides to get a first down anyway.

 

[Hwk-I-St8]

He's tall enough that he only needs about 6 strides to get a first down anyway.

Who was it...Chandler??...that would run sometimes but looked slower than crap? The guy covered so much ground with each stride that it was deceiving.

 

[E.RogerCoswell]

Who was it...Chandler??...that would run sometimes but looked slower than crap? The guy covered so much ground with each stride that it was deceiving.

Chandler. See the 4:38 mark.

 

[brokenarrow73]

well based on what colleges are doing today and even now the pros are starting to like those dual-threat on pass option quarterbacks I'd like to see Manziel in the Iowa offense. We did pretty good with a couple of dual-threat quarterbacks and Brad Banks and Drew Tate they could move a little bit. We've seen the battering our quarterbacks have taken the last few years just saying I don't care who's the best option to win. I'm a little Leary of crowning some California quarterback who's never played any college football as the king of the competition that's for sure

Actually NFL teams are desperate to find pro style QBs who actually have reads and check downs as opposed to the RPO QB and the 1 check system offense-oregan, WSU, Oklahoma, OSU, etc all are successful in college but do disservice to QB as they are unprepared for NFL offense. And no those offenses don’t work in the NFL

you mean like the deshawn

watson Marcus Mariota those type of quarterbacks Cam Newton Mitch trubisky

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

you mean like the deshawn

watson Marcus Mariota those type of quarterbacks Cam Newton Mitch trubisky

No like top 10 QB’s. Brady, Rogers, smith, Wilson, brees, Ryan, Roth, cousins, weintz, rivers....

 

[Hawgk]

Chandler. See the 4:38 mark.

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Chandler might have been a hell of a QB if he could have consistently thrown a spiral. I met a guy who ran HS camps in North Texas who said when Nathan Chandler threw a tight spiral, it would go farther than any QB he'd ever seen throw and that included Ryan Mallet. But for whatever reason Nathan always struggled to throw a clean spiral.

 

[JoelBittner]

I'm surprised there hasn't been much discussion on the board about these two. Watching their recruiting highlight videos they are two very contrasting qb's with Mansell being a dual threat with great movement and the ability to run the ball just as well as throw the ball and Petras being a solid arm qb with little movement in the pocket. They both have impressive highlight videos. Petras has one heck of an arm and most of his highlights are 30+ yard bombs down field.

Mansell was a redshirt last season while Petras has enrolled in classes and is in true freshmen status.

According to various articles I've read about them, they both seem very headstrong and competitive and are willing to do what it takes to earn the starting role. Right now, I just can't see a BF offense incorporating a dual threat qb into the mix but as of now Mansell is still there and still eager to fight for the starting position. I believe with Weigers transfer, he is now listed as the official backup to Stanley. So with that being said, if Stanley ever goes down we have a dual threat qb going in to run an offense that is in no way set up for that type of qb. So it'll be interesting to see how that would play out.

I read somewhere that Petras on the other hand threw for 50 touchdowns to only 2 interceptions his senior year in excess of 4000 yards. And judging by his videos he would fit in well with a BF offense especially with receivers able to burn the secondary.

I also read somewhere that Peyton Mansell was coached by former NFL QB Jeff Blake at some point and that Spencer Petras was coached by the same high school coach as first overall pick and current NFL starter Jared Goff and that Petras and Goff remain friends. Interesting stuff.

Sorry if any of my info is incorrect. I didn't feel like digging around and I got bored while sitting on the can so here ye' be with my boredom post.

So any thoughts?

You want my thoughts? Ok
I find it interesting you said Mansell doesn't fit with Iowa's offense as he is the official backup. So why would they recruit him if he was a poor fit? Do you wonder why they recruited Sokol and McCollum and Boyle and AJ Derby and never gave them a chance to show what a DT QB could do for Iowa's offense? Cuz I do.

If your thoughts are that Iowa would suffer with a DT QB I remind you that the one time it was tried Iowa was stellar and the QB was a Heisman runner-up. I hope Brian isn't fixated on PP's like his father cuz if the choice is between a dynamic DT and a so-so PP, I would take the DT QB. The offense has many more options with a DT QB than a pro-passer statue.