Pharaoh Compton ('24) has Iowa in his top 5
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Here's quotes from Compton on his top five.
Iowa: “The Iowa Hawkeyes aren’t new when it comes to producing NBA level players year in and year out. Their NBA background includes lots of forwards who have succeeded at that next level which is important because that’s where I want to go. Also with the way Coach (Courtney) Eldridge continuously compares me and thinks I can be those guys who have came through the university is something I honestly see myself in that position as well.”
LSU: “The Tigers have been ever present since they offered me July of last year. There’s always been a coach in contact. If it isn’t, Coach (Ronnie) Hamilton is giving me a call or Coach (Cody) Toppert is sending me some game film. I felt like someone has always keep that contact with me and reassured me that I am wanted at LSU and they make that known pretty frequently. I just think it’s so important how the coaches constantly check in with me a lot. Also the blood runs deep when it comes to LSU Basketball they’re familiar with having pros in the program.”
San Diego State: “With the Aztecs coming off an amazing season, it just starts with Coach (JayDee) Luster being that guy from day one who kept it real with me and how he sees me fitting in at SDSU. Or even how they will help with my development and training is huge. You need to be somewhere they really want you and want to help you get better. From the start of the summer head, Coach (Brian) Dutcher being at every game he can possibly be at and always keeping in contact with my mother or even my coaches is different. That isn’t something you see out of a lot of head coaches it shows how much they really care for you.”
Tennessee: “The Volunteers are such a well structured and coached program. Over the years I have always taken notice to their success and culture they have been building up, and in college that’s what matters a lot. That’s something that not every program has and Coach (Rick) Barnes and his staff have over there at UT. Also the love that the entire state shows for the school is just amazing that’s a great environment to be around, especially for college and being away from home."
UNLV: “The university closest to me of course. They were the 4th school to offer me and (Kevin) Kruger and his entire staff have stayed on me since. Even if it’s a Strive For Greatness game my 16s year up until the Peach Jam championship, someone has always been there and been in contact with me. They always say I can come watch practice and I’m welcome over there whenever. They’re constantly calling and checking and even though I’m down the road but that’s really important to me.”
Iowa: “The Iowa Hawkeyes aren’t new when it comes to producing NBA level players year in and year out. Their NBA background includes lots of forwards who have succeeded at that next level which is important because that’s where I want to go. Also with the way Coach (Courtney) Eldridge continuously compares me and thinks I can be those guys who have came through the university is something I honestly see myself in that position as well.”
LSU: “The Tigers have been ever present since they offered me July of last year. There’s always been a coach in contact. If it isn’t, Coach (Ronnie) Hamilton is giving me a call or Coach (Cody) Toppert is sending me some game film. I felt like someone has always keep that contact with me and reassured me that I am wanted at LSU and they make that known pretty frequently. I just think it’s so important how the coaches constantly check in with me a lot. Also the blood runs deep when it comes to LSU Basketball they’re familiar with having pros in the program.”
San Diego State: “With the Aztecs coming off an amazing season, it just starts with Coach (JayDee) Luster being that guy from day one who kept it real with me and how he sees me fitting in at SDSU. Or even how they will help with my development and training is huge. You need to be somewhere they really want you and want to help you get better. From the start of the summer head, Coach (Brian) Dutcher being at every game he can possibly be at and always keeping in contact with my mother or even my coaches is different. That isn’t something you see out of a lot of head coaches it shows how much they really care for you.”
Tennessee: “The Volunteers are such a well structured and coached program. Over the years I have always taken notice to their success and culture they have been building up, and in college that’s what matters a lot. That’s something that not every program has and Coach (Rick) Barnes and his staff have over there at UT. Also the love that the entire state shows for the school is just amazing that’s a great environment to be around, especially for college and being away from home."
UNLV: “The university closest to me of course. They were the 4th school to offer me and (Kevin) Kruger and his entire staff have stayed on me since. Even if it’s a Strive For Greatness game my 16s year up until the Peach Jam championship, someone has always been there and been in contact with me. They always say I can come watch practice and I’m welcome over there whenever. They’re constantly calling and checking and even though I’m down the road but that’s really important to me.”
According to 247,
SDSU visit on Aug 26 (played Ohio and won)
Tennessee visit on Sept 8 (Tennessee plays Austin Peay)
Iowa visit on Sept 30 (Michigan State game weekend)
LSU visit on Oct 14 (Auburn game weekend)
No visit scheduled for UNLV although he lives in Vegas
He'll be getting a good weekend at Iowa and a great weekend at LSU.
SDSU visit on Aug 26 (played Ohio and won)
Tennessee visit on Sept 8 (Tennessee plays Austin Peay)
Iowa visit on Sept 30 (Michigan State game weekend)
LSU visit on Oct 14 (Auburn game weekend)
No visit scheduled for UNLV although he lives in Vegas
He'll be getting a good weekend at Iowa and a great weekend at LSU.
Don't think winning or losing a football game is going to matter. Hard to believe he's not talking about Fran the way he talks about some other head coaches.
If we are talking solely recruiting rankings - Fran hasn't landed a highly ranked, out-of-state recruit with zero ties to the program since Garza. And that was back in 2017.
Owen Freeman was a decent get. But Fran really needs to start stacking out-of-state recruiting wins. This kid would be a huge start.
Owen Freeman was a decent get. But Fran really needs to start stacking out-of-state recruiting wins. This kid would be a huge start.
What about Dembele? I also think Big O, will end up as more then just a "decent get".....
Not close to national level type guys. He’s been bridesmaid a bunch though
That's fine, I too am hopeful that Owen will turn out really well.
But in terms of rankings - neither Owen Freeman nor Dembele were top 150 guys.
I know rankings aren't everything. I know recruiting "experts" aren't always right. I know Fran has found a ton of diamonds in the rough.
But lets be honest with ourselves: you would have rather have 5 recruits in the top 100 than 5 guys who aren't in the top 100. Our last crop of recruits were solid - but we need more in the coming years if we want to take the next step (sweet sixteen).
But in terms of rankings - neither Owen Freeman nor Dembele were top 150 guys.
I know rankings aren't everything. I know recruiting "experts" aren't always right. I know Fran has found a ton of diamonds in the rough.
But lets be honest with ourselves: you would have rather have 5 recruits in the top 100 than 5 guys who aren't in the top 100. Our last crop of recruits were solid - but we need more in the coming years if we want to take the next step (sweet sixteen).
Let's hope so. The last "Big O" was far less than a "decent get"
Just for fun here are the recruiting rankings of the 4 commits from last year's class from the 4 major recruiting sites:
Sandfort: #93 Rivals, #93 247, #96 ESPN, #111 ON3 / Composite 4 star
Dembele: UR 4-star Rivals, #186 247, UR ESPN, #136 ON3 / Composite 3-star
Harding: UR Rivals, #141 247, UR 4-star ESPN, #139 ON3 / Composite 3-star
Freeman: UR Rivals, #150 247, UR 4-star ESPN, UR ON3 / Composite 3-star
(FWIW, ESPN only ranks top-100 so Harding and Freeman both being 4-stars but unranked points to them being close to that top-150 cutoff)
So each of these recruits were a top-150 ranked kid in at least 1 service. Oddly enough, Freeman had the best offers and IMO was the biggest recruiting win and he was the lowest composite ranked recruit. I think part of that is scouts stop watching guys closely once they commit somewhere, especially kids on independent AAU tournaments and public school kids. I believe Freeman was a top-100 4-star when he committed, he just weirdly plummeted down rankings.
I think Angel Reese will entice him to LSU.
I've thought all along that Freeman would be McCaffery's next diamond in the rough. I will be surprised if he doesn't wind up on some All-B1G teams eventually and maybe sooner rather than later. He has the body, the skillset and the determination to excel.
Cook, Nunge, Garza were Fran at his best when recruiting out of state and kids without previous ties to Hawkeye program. This last class with the big out East was a pretty good pickup (i.e. not the type of athlete avalilable instate) and I think the jury is out on the two Illinois kids.
Perkins was a good pickup. Bowen also. That is the type of out of state recruiting I'd like to see out of Fran.
I think Fran has done better recruiting this past 5 years than he did the previous 5. There was a really poor recruiting period of a few years that included Dom Uhl, Wagner, Ellingson, Hutton, Dailey, Flemming in which nearly every out of state recruit was a bust.
Yeah the recruiting has definitely gotten better. By all metrics, last years class was Fran's best yet. Hopefully that amounts to positive things on the court.
I think some folks here and on other sites just see how close Fran got to a couple high 4 and 5 stars and then got beat out by Duke, Tennessee, etc and for some reason that has soured everyone in thinking the recruiting has been bad. Iowa realistically won't have the same caliber of recruiting classes as Michigan St., Ohio St., Indiana, and Maryland (especially in the NIL era), but Iowa of late has been out-recruiting or at least on par with Wisconsin, Minnesota and Purdue and is well ahead of the Minnesota/PSU/Nebraska/Northwestern tier. Basically, Fran has been recruiting at a realistic and respectable level the past few years and I'm hopeful that it'll pay off soon.
Barnes has a helluva recruiting pitch. I can't recall the kid's name, but he ended up choosing Tennessee over Iowa last year.
Michigan’s Juwan Howard almost lost his own son to recruiting battle with Tennessee
In the NCAA Tournament, Michigan will face Tennessee, which almost landed Jett Howard.
Nunge had ties to Iowa with living here growing up and for a week was neighbors with the McCaffrey's
Too many people just depend on the stars the recruit has. We've all see cases where a highly ranked recruit just doesn't perform at the level his stars predicted. McCaffery is a little like Ferentz. He tends to get the most out of the kids he recruits and three star recruits, like the Murrays, excel under his tutelage.
Yeah, that class was disastrous, it set us back a couple years. Every other class has been solid to very good. An argument could be made almost too good with the number of guys who have left early for the NBA, but I realize thats a good problem reflective of a good program. I think the current crop of freshmen has potential to be one of his best classes overall.
BTW, Compton is no longer visiting Tennessee. LSU is also crystal balled to be picking up a top-50 big man recruit. So it may be Iowa vs SDSU & UNLV. Visiting next weekend per Twitter reports.
I've seen him listed anywhere from 6' 7" to 6' 9". If he is 6' 7", could Fran be looking at him as a SF instead of PF?
He has no jump shot. You really can't play on the perimeter in today's game without a jumper. He's much more closer to just an undersized C than he is a 3. He's got a massive wingspan which is why he is able to play a lot bigger than he actually is. I've read that his wingspan is over 7 feet.
He would be amazing in transition. He seems to have decent ball handling, so he'd be able to attack slow footed big man off the dribble.
He reminds me a ton of the types of Bigs that are really successful at Houston. Just super athletic guys who are good defenders and create problems on offense because you want to use a big on them but most bigs have issues moving with.
If he had a decent jump shot, he'd be a top 30 player. And I don't think that's really a super hot take by any means. He'd be getting Jarrace Walker comps because they really are very similar athletes, it's just that Walker can shoot the 3 too.
Overall, our b-ball recruiting has been VERY pedestrian over the years and is why we’ve been averaging 15 losses per year over the past ten years. We have to stop beating MAC teams for players and beat out teams with a pulse if we want to be anything else but a MAC level program, which we are.
Yes I still remember the thread where the board was moaning that we got a set of 2 star twins. Fran has shown he doesn’t need the 4 or 5 stars. But you definitely need to find a star every 2-3 years.
I was curious, so I looked it up.
Over the past 10 years, we've averaged 12.6 losses per year.
If you go back 16 years, to include Fran's earliest seasons and the Lickliter era, the number climbs to 14.625 losses per year.
FYI.
Fran has had Iowa in the top half of the B1G, so you are understating his accomplishments. The real knock against Fran is how lousy Iowa has played in the Dance.
Pretty pathetic program and it starts with recruiting….especially too many slow white guys. This isn’t a freakin’ swim team!!!!!
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