POLL: Do You Believe the Biblical Great Flood Actually Happened?
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There is evidence that some serious flooding most definitely happened. Could have been a meteor crashing into ocean, could have been global warming(due to all the humans around back then), could have been something else.
The bible isn't the only ancient script that mentions it. Personally I think it was likely a large meteor that caused it. Seriously doubt it covered the entire world though.
The bible isn't the only ancient script that mentions it. Personally I think it was likely a large meteor that caused it. Seriously doubt it covered the entire world though.
I miss Accuro. Your last two options seem the same in my mind. I think there were big local floods that probably inspired the root Gilgamesh story and others the bible used for inspiration. Maybe even when the Black Sea opened and flooded many cities.
It goes against the Bible, so you anti-religious folks, who worship the state that has failed you countless times, will love it.
Article discussing possible flood theories.
Article discussing possible flood theories.
Global warming possibly caused one in ancient times...
because of all those crazy humans and their crazy industries back then!!!
The water from the melting glaciers began to rush toward the world's oceans, Ballard said, causing floods all around the world.
"The questions is, was there a mother of all floods," Ballard said.
According to a controversial theory proposed by two Columbia University scientists, there really was one in the Black Sea region. They believe that the now-salty Black Sea was once an isolated freshwater lake surrounded by farmland, until it was flooded by an enormous wall of water from the rising Mediterranean Sea. The force of the water was two hundred times that of Niagara Falls, sweeping away everything in its path.
because of all those crazy humans and their crazy industries back then!!!
The water from the melting glaciers began to rush toward the world's oceans, Ballard said, causing floods all around the world.
"The questions is, was there a mother of all floods," Ballard said.
According to a controversial theory proposed by two Columbia University scientists, there really was one in the Black Sea region. They believe that the now-salty Black Sea was once an isolated freshwater lake surrounded by farmland, until it was flooded by an enormous wall of water from the rising Mediterranean Sea. The force of the water was two hundred times that of Niagara Falls, sweeping away everything in its path.
Aren't you in the anti religious camp too? You always seem to want to want to straddle the fence.
Not so much anti, as in just not involved. Maybe the bible thumpers are correct, maybe they aren't. I don't really care, as I'm just more interested in enjoying life and learning from it.
Yes it was clearly CO2 levels from biblical man that melted the ice caps. We are just lucky Jesus made it cold again for us.
When I was a toddler, my house was flooded after the creek that ran through the back yard overflowed its banks. The known world was flooded.
At least you're a good sport, most of these Nancy's would report me for verbally bashing them.
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You are right about other traditions having flood stories, most do. Did a flood ever cover the entire globe? No
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Plagiarism -
"The story of Noah may be part of the Abrahamic canon, but the legend of
the Great Flood almost certainly has prebiblical origins, rooted in the
ancient civilizations of Mesopotamia. The Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh
dates back nearly 5,000 years and is thought to be perhaps the oldest
written tale on the planet. In it, there is an account of the great sage
Utnapishtim, who is warned of an imminent flood to be unleashed by
wrathful gods. He builds a vast circular-shaped boat, reinforced with
tar and pitch, that carries his relatives, grains and animals. After
enduring days of storms, Utnapishtim, like Noah in Genesis, releases a bird in search of dry land."
I've Seen This Plot Before
"The story of Noah may be part of the Abrahamic canon, but the legend of
the Great Flood almost certainly has prebiblical origins, rooted in the
ancient civilizations of Mesopotamia. The Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh
dates back nearly 5,000 years and is thought to be perhaps the oldest
written tale on the planet. In it, there is an account of the great sage
Utnapishtim, who is warned of an imminent flood to be unleashed by
wrathful gods. He builds a vast circular-shaped boat, reinforced with
tar and pitch, that carries his relatives, grains and animals. After
enduring days of storms, Utnapishtim, like Noah in Genesis, releases a bird in search of dry land."
I've Seen This Plot Before
And it just so happens in 582 BC King Nebuchadnezzar sacked Jerusalem (see Book of Daniel for reference) and held the Jews prisoner (for some length of time)...........there's a very good chance they came across the 'Epic of Gilgamesh' while there.
Well, those times were known as 'The Dark Ages' for a reason.......very few people were allowed to read, an awful amount of killing was going on (usually those that weren't allowed to read), et al.
It spread because it basically was the only thing to sell, well that and the people in power were put on this Earth to rule over people (the same poor bastards who weren't allowed to read).
All I know is that I'm so happy that I wasn't born during that time period.
This seems a bit off. I would bet most Christans don't take a literal view of that or most of Genesis.
I always imagine if you turned the tables on these kinds of analogies and "can you believe this?"... and flip the time frames.
Imagine if you're in a Bedouin family, or just a peasant of any kind, in ancient Egypt, or even earlier. And, you're looking up at the moon and you said to another friend; "I wonder what it would be like to walk on that white orb in the night sky? Imagine if, one day in the future, we could somehow transport ourselves to that object?" He would have been put out of his mind. Now, I realize that these are ambitions for the future and not reflections on the past. It's true that this is not exactly something one might attribute as "God doing it.", but I contend that We are God and God is Us. I also realize that human's ability to record their actions are more sophisticated now than they were then. But, it's not impossible to assume that there were ambitious minds back then who reacted to the circumstances- like a Giant Flood- and pushed their imaginative thoughts. So, if it was just as outlandish to believe something like the moon-landing could EVER happen back then. Or, that the world would be linked-up in a communication system that is instantaneous... why is it so outlandish that something outlandish by our standards now COULD HAVE happened then? It is true that The Flood is not a man-made endeavor, but our consciousness is a never-ending chasm of possibilities anyway.
Just because you believe that you can't "see" God, or feel "God" in our restricted sensory patterns, does not mean that God isn't there. It really depends on what you understand, or perceive, God to even be, in the first place. Our language and religious texts force us, subconsciously, to create a human-type male that is all powerful. Gender-specific interpretations of He and Him and His and Father, make us imagine a masculine being. It's comforting to some and confusing to others. But, God is there. God is us, and we are God.
"Turn off your mind, relax, and float downstream... it is not dying. It is not dying. Lay down all thoughts, Surrender to the void- it is shining. That you may see the meaning of within-it is being..."
Imagine if you're in a Bedouin family, or just a peasant of any kind, in ancient Egypt, or even earlier. And, you're looking up at the moon and you said to another friend; "I wonder what it would be like to walk on that white orb in the night sky? Imagine if, one day in the future, we could somehow transport ourselves to that object?" He would have been put out of his mind. Now, I realize that these are ambitions for the future and not reflections on the past. It's true that this is not exactly something one might attribute as "God doing it.", but I contend that We are God and God is Us. I also realize that human's ability to record their actions are more sophisticated now than they were then. But, it's not impossible to assume that there were ambitious minds back then who reacted to the circumstances- like a Giant Flood- and pushed their imaginative thoughts. So, if it was just as outlandish to believe something like the moon-landing could EVER happen back then. Or, that the world would be linked-up in a communication system that is instantaneous... why is it so outlandish that something outlandish by our standards now COULD HAVE happened then? It is true that The Flood is not a man-made endeavor, but our consciousness is a never-ending chasm of possibilities anyway.
Just because you believe that you can't "see" God, or feel "God" in our restricted sensory patterns, does not mean that God isn't there. It really depends on what you understand, or perceive, God to even be, in the first place. Our language and religious texts force us, subconsciously, to create a human-type male that is all powerful. Gender-specific interpretations of He and Him and His and Father, make us imagine a masculine being. It's comforting to some and confusing to others. But, God is there. God is us, and we are God.
"Turn off your mind, relax, and float downstream... it is not dying. It is not dying. Lay down all thoughts, Surrender to the void- it is shining. That you may see the meaning of within-it is being..."
Last time I checked, the Noah thing happened in the Old Testament, so Christianity wouldn't have a lot to do with it.
The Christian Bible contains both the Old Testament
and the New Testament. There is much we can learn
from the Old Testament:
1. Almighty God is the Creator of heaven and earth.
2. God promised to send a Savior who would save us
from sin that Adam and Eve brought into the world.
3. Those Old Testament promises were fulfilled when
Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was born in Bethlehem,
died on Calvary's cross on Good Friday and rose from
the dead on Easter Sunday.
and the New Testament. There is much we can learn
from the Old Testament:
1. Almighty God is the Creator of heaven and earth.
2. God promised to send a Savior who would save us
from sin that Adam and Eve brought into the world.
3. Those Old Testament promises were fulfilled when
Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was born in Bethlehem,
died on Calvary's cross on Good Friday and rose from
the dead on Easter Sunday.
Sounds cool, got a link? Are you a biblical literalist? Do you buy into the whole global flood, man lived with dinosaurs and the earth is 6000 years old story? I hope so, I miss Accuro.
Interesting vote, so far. Half of us take the biblical account literally or think it was only slightly exaggerated while the other half of us think it was greatly exaggerated or just fiction.
I am aware of that.
Which is why I said Christianity has nothing to do with the flood story. Or to put it another way, it is not necessary to believe Jesus was the Christ in order to believe the story of the flood, and millions of people throughout the world fit this definition.
I can't believe that people actually still believe this myth and if the bible can't be taken literally then what good is it? If there had been a flood that huge, it would have probably have been the end of the earth. Where did all that water go? Where are the billions of human and animal bones and dead trees?
Anyway, why would anyone worship such a heartless divine being who would do such a thing? What about all the dead children still in their mothers' wombs? This is just proof that the biblical god was created by man. He has human emotions and motives.
I believe in a Higher Power but not in that biblical divine being who is worse than Hilter and Stalin combined.
Anyway, why would anyone worship such a heartless divine being who would do such a thing? What about all the dead children still in their mothers' wombs? This is just proof that the biblical god was created by man. He has human emotions and motives.
I believe in a Higher Power but not in that biblical divine being who is worse than Hilter and Stalin combined.
