Portal Winners and What it Might Mean

[Raptorpeeps]

Kentucky, Arkansas and the other big winners during the men’s college basketball transfer portal silly season

The changing eligibility rules have had a dramatic impact on roster-building across college basketball.

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Maryland, Michigan, Indiana best of Big Ten.

Pre-season prognostication difficulty has increased by an order of magnitude but as of today, Torvik has us no where near tournament territory: https://www.barttorvik.com/

Wish I could disagree.

Enjoy the great moments though.

 

[TrianglePlace]

Kentucky, Arkansas and the other big winners during the men’s college basketball transfer portal silly season

The changing eligibility rules have had a dramatic impact on roster-building across college basketball.

www.google.com

Maryland, Michigan, Indiana best of Big Ten.

Pre-season prognostication difficulty has increased by an order of magnitude but as of today, Torvik has us no where near tournament territory: https://www.barttorvik.com/

Wish I could disagree.

Enjoy the great moments though.

He projects Iowa at #79 which is where Drake finished last season and made the First Four.

 

[mstp1992]

 

[Raptorpeeps]

Nope. Just more fat free vanilla ice cream that you’ll pretend is the yummiest because it comes in a black and gold package and isn’t made by Todd Lickliter.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

He projects Iowa at #79 which is where Drake finished last season and made the First Four.

lol

yeah... we might have only 3 conference losses next season.

 

[TrianglePlace]

lol

yeah... we might have only 3 conference losses next season.

His projections right now have Iowa at 8-12 in the B1G.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

His projections right now have Iowa at 8-12 in the B1G.

11 seed

lol

 

[Raptorpeeps]

His projections right now have Iowa at 8-12 in the B1G.

I don’t think he’s factoring in the huge jump connor is going to take in scoring this year.

 

[TrianglePlace]

11 seed

lol

You feelin' alright today? You're usually a good poster.

Ohio State went 8-12 in conference and got an 11 seed in the 2019 tournament.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

You feelin' alright today? You're usually a good poster.

Ohio State went 8-12 in conference and got an 11 seed in the 2019 tournament.

I feel fine. 10-10 Iowa was a 10 seed that year, I think. 2 more losses and they would not have made the tourney.

I definitely don’t see the league being as strong this year as last year or even ‘18-‘19.

 

[perryhawk]

11 seed

lol

I realize it's way to early to make strong predictions....unsettled rosters, don't really know what new coaches will be like for some of the competition (Indiana), injuries, schedules, etc etc....that said, what is your ball park prediction for next year. Is the 8-12 league record about where you are at? You can give a range if you're up for it.

As an optimist for this team I think we win all but maybe 2 of the noncon games as we will probably have a number of cupcakes....then somewhere around 10-10 in the conference. IF we can do that AND improve as the team gets more experience and cohesion in their schemes we might just need a win or two in the BTT to get to the NCAA....Again, not a prediction yet, but I think this is a scenario that is within reason.

 

[BBHawk]

Nope. Just more fat free vanilla ice cream that you’ll pretend is the yummiest because it comes in a black and gold package and isn’t made by Todd Lickliter.

You're a joke.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

I realize it's way to early to make strong predictions....unsettled rosters, don't really know what new coaches will be like for some of the competition (Indiana), injuries, schedules, etc etc....that said, what is your ball park prediction for next year. Is the 8-12 league record about where you are at? You can give a range if you're up for it.

As an optimist for this team I think we win all but maybe 2 of the noncon games as we will probably have a number of cupcakes....then somewhere around 10-10 in the conference. IF we can do that AND improve as the team gets more experience and cohesion in their schemes we might just need a win or two in the BTT to get to the NCAA....Again, not a prediction yet, but I think this is a scenario that is within reason.

It’s far from crazy. I don’t think this team goes .500 in the league though.

Way too early but here are the teams I see finishing ahead of Iowa in the league:

1. Michigan
2. Maryland
3. Purdue
4. Ohio State
5. Michigan State
6. Illinois
7. Indiana
8. Wisconsin
9. Iowa
10.Rutgers
11. Nebraska
12. Northwestern
13. Minnesota
14. Penn State



Will the league get 8 or 9 teams in next season?

Nope.

 

[BBHawk]

It’s far from crazy. I don’t think this team goes .500 in the league though.

Way too early but here are the teams I see finishing ahead of Iowa in the league:

1. Michigan
2. Maryland
3. Purdue
4. Ohio State
5. Michigan State
6. Illinois
7. Indiana
8. Wisconsin
9. Iowa
10.Rutgers
11. Nebraska
12. Northwestern
13. Minnesota
14. Penn State



Will the league get 8 or 9 teams in? Nope.

I for one am shocked at your prediction. Shocked. You are usually SO optimistic when it comes to the hawks!

😉

 

[CO_hawk]

Has the schedule come out yet?

 

[Bearhawk0505]

The conference’s performance in the tournament this year will have an impact on next season. They may not let as many big ten teams in the tournament as the league collectively crapped the bed. Back to the OP, I hope Fran adjusts his attitude towards the portal, as it appears to be the wave of the future. Many of the powers that land big recruits are utilizing it better than Fran.

 

[LarryMullenJr.]

I don’t think he’s factoring in the huge jump connor is going to take in scoring this year.

His on-base percentage will have to improve.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

I couldn't read the whole article and have other stuff to do today. Who did Maryland get to make everyone so bullish on them. Based on returning players, I like Purdon't and UM as the clear favorites, but I am not up to date on the other teams' projected rosters.

 

[BBHawk]

The conference’s performance in the tournament this year will have an impact on next season. They may not let as many big ten teams in the tournament as the league collectively crapped the bed. Back to the OP, I hope Fran adjusts his attitude towards the portal, as it appears to be the wave of the future. Many of the powers that land big recruits are utilizing it better than Fran.

We'll know more about success with the portal after a few years. It really only started in 2018.

 

[Rustys Dad]

He projects Iowa at #79 which is where Drake finished last season and made the First Four.

Sounds about right. We just watched Fran’s peak season at Iowa. POY for 2 years in a row… veteran players… Fran will ride out his extension and leave Iowa with a .500 Big 10 record and .580 winning percentage. Not bad expectations considering your boss paid you millions over the years for these very “average” results.

 

[BBHawk]

Sounds about right. We just watched Fran’s peak season at Iowa. POY for 2 years in a row… veteran players… Fran will ride out his extension and leave Iowa with a .500 Big 10 record and .580 winning percentage. Not bad expectations considering your boss paid you millions over the years for these very “average” results.

That's the market. McC is 9th in salary in the B10, and there are coaches with worse results making more, in the B1G and all over the country.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Sounds about right. We just watched Fran’s peak season at Iowa. POY for 2 years in a row… veteran players… Fran will ride out his extension and leave Iowa with a .500 Big 10 record and .580 winning percentage. Not bad expectations considering your boss paid you millions over the years for these very “average” results.

Then they'll go get a different guy who will do about the same thing.

"Iowa Basketball - you've seen this movie before"

 

[Hawk_4shur]

The conference’s performance in the tournament this year will have an impact on next season. They may not let as many big ten teams in the tournament as the league collectively crapped the bed. Back to the OP, I hope Fran adjusts his attitude towards the portal, as it appears to be the wave of the future. Many of the powers that land big recruits are utilizing it better than Fran.

I'm not disagreeing with you. But in terms of a healthy discussion, I'd like to present another view.

There were some teams gutted by the transfer portal this year. Probably lots of reasons for this. But, if you are the coach of the Hawks, you don't want to put yourself in a position of having to put together a new team every year. Tring to replace 6 or 7 guys would be a disaster.

Fran grabbed a big that should contribute. But, what if he also added a shooting guard and a wing to replace CJ and Joe? (Maybe he did grab a shooting guard in JBo). If you've got good players ready to step up and you just effectively kept them on the bench for another year, do they then transfer? Wouldn't it make recruiting even harder each year if you keep going out and getting new players from the portal?

Also, power programs get portal guys ahead of Iowa for the same reason they get HS players. They'd rather go there than Iowa.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

That's the market. McC is 9th in salary in the B10, and there are coaches with worse results making more, in the B1G and all over the country.

lol

Nope. Sorry. Archie Miller (2-0 against Fran this season) has already been fired and it’s obviously too early to make any kind of determination on Hoiberg (remember, according to you Fran’s first FIVE years were a gimme lol). Collins is the only coach making marginally more than Fran who has arguably accomplished less.

Everyone else in the B1G making more has accomplished a lot more and some making less than Fran have also accomplished a lot more (see J. Howard, and G. Gard).

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[BBHawk]

That's the market. McC is 9th in salary in the B10, and there are coaches with worse results making more, in the B1G and all over the country.

lol

Nope. Sorry. Archie Miller (2-0 against Fran this season) has already been fired and it’s obviously too early to make any kind of determination on Hoiberg (remember, according to you Fran’s first FIVE years were a gimme lol). Collins is the only coach making marginally more than Fran who has arguably accomplished less.

Everyone else in the B1G making more has accomplished a lot more and some making less than Fran have accomplished a lot more (see J. Howard, and G. Gard).

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I never said McC's first 5 years were a gimme. His first 2 were not going to be good but he has battled pretty well after that with .500 or better B1G seasons except for 2017-2018.
And ow many coaches making more than McC have gone further in the NCAA Tournament with their B10 teams?
Izzo is Izzo.
Hoiberg hasn't done squat yet at NE. As usual, he has a lot of turnover every year he coaches so using turnover as an is just an excuse.
Underwood has only made it to the round of 32 at IL with arguably better talent
Archie is gone, but while at IN, he never even made it to the NCAAs, even with arguably better talent
Holtmann has only made it to the round of 32 at OH State with arguably better talent
Turgeon took MD to the Sweet 16, but with arguably better talent.
Chris Collins has only made it to the round of 32 at Northwestern and only finished above 5th once in the B1G
Painter has done very well. He had the luxury of following a legend but he built on that and has done very well.
Other than Izzo, Turgeon and Painter, the other 5 coaches have not achieved more than McC even though they are much better situated for recruiting and have had better classes. I would say that means they had worse results based on expectations.

And who cares that Archie Miler beat Iowa twice this year? Iowa swept Izzo, Hoiberg, Turgeon, Painter, and Collins this year. Means nothing.

I have to laugh at your examples of 2 newer head coaches - Gard walked into a great situation at WI which appears to be falling apart now that his recruits are coming in/leaving. And Howard will not be making less than McC for long unless he has a HUGE nosedive or gets caught cheating somehow. In any case, Howard is an exception. He's making less than a lot of coaches with lessor results.

 

[retrodent]

Sounds about right. We just watched Fran’s peak season at Iowa. POY for 2 years in a row… veteran players… Fran will ride out his extension and leave Iowa with a .500 Big 10 record and .580 winning percentage. Not bad expectations considering your boss paid you millions over the years for these very “average” results.

I hope he stays for his youngest to play with joe W young brother

 

[littlez]

I never said McC's first 5 years were a gimme. His first 2 were not going to be good but he has battled pretty well after that with .500 or better B1G seasons except for 2017-2018.
And ow many coaches making more than McC have gone further in the NCAA Tournament with their B10 teams?
Izzo is Izzo.
Hoiberg hasn't done squat yet at NE. As usual, he has a lot of turnover every year he coaches so using turnover as an is just an excuse.
Underwood has only made it to the round of 32 at IL with arguably better talent
Archie is gone, but while at IN, he never even made it to the NCAAs, even with arguably better talent
Holtmann has only made it to the round of 32 at OH State with arguably better talent
Turgeon took MD to the Sweet 16, but with arguably better talent.
Chris Collins has only made it to the round of 32 at Northwestern and only finished above 5th once in the B1G
Painter has done very well. He had the luxury of following a legend but he built on that and has done very well.
Other than Izzo, Turgeon and Painter, the other 5 coaches have not achieved more than McC even though they are much better situated for recruiting and have had better classes. I would say that means they had worse results based on expectations.

And who cares that Archie Miler beat Iowa twice this year? Iowa swept Izzo, Hoiberg, Turgeon, Painter, and Collins this year. Means nothing.

I have to laugh at your examples of 2 newer head coaches - Gard walked into a great situation at WI which appears to be falling apart now that his recruits are coming in/leaving. And Howard will not be making less than McC for long unless he has a HUGE nosedive or gets caught cheating somehow. In any case, Howard is an exception. He's making less than a lot of coaches with lessor results.

Can’t really disagree with anything here.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

I never said McC's first 5 years were a gimme. His first 2 were not going to be good but he has battled pretty well after that with .500 or better B1G seasons except for 2017-2018.
And ow many coaches making more than McC have gone further in the NCAA Tournament with their B10 teams?
Izzo is Izzo.
Hoiberg hasn't done squat yet at NE. As usual, he has a lot of turnover every year he coaches so using turnover as an is just an excuse.
Underwood has only made it to the round of 32 at IL with arguably better talent
Archie is gone, but while at IN, he never even made it to the NCAAs, even with arguably better talent
Holtmann has only made it to the round of 32 at OH State with arguably better talent
Turgeon took MD to the Sweet 16, but with arguably better talent.
Chris Collins has only made it to the round of 32 at Northwestern and only finished above 5th once in the B1G
Painter has done very well. He had the luxury of following a legend but he built on that and has done very well.
Other than Izzo, Turgeon and Painter, the other 5 coaches have not achieved more than McC even though they are much better situated for recruiting and have had better classes. I would say that means they had worse results based on expectations.

And who cares that Archie Miler beat Iowa twice this year? Iowa swept Izzo, Hoiberg, Turgeon, Painter, and Collins this year. Means nothing.

I have to laugh at your examples of 2 newer head coaches - Gard walked into a great situation at WI which appears to be falling apart now that his recruits are coming in/leaving. And Howard will not be making less than McC for long unless he has a HUGE nosedive or gets caught cheating somehow. In any case, Howard is an exception. He's making less than a lot of coaches with lessor results.

"And ow [sic] many coaches making more than McC have gone further in the NCAA Tournament with their B10 teams?
Izzo is Izzo."

I have to laugh at your limitation of "accomplish" to NCAA tourney wins. Just stop your clownery.

And why limit it to "coaches making more" than Fran. That makes no sense. Gard makes LESS than Fran and has has taken Wisconsin farther AND won a Big Ten regular season title. So has Turgeon. So has Painter, so has first year coach, Howard, lol etc. etc.....



"Hoiberg hasn't done squat yet at NE. As usual, he has a lot of turnover every year he coaches so using turnover as an is just an excuse."

lol Hoiberg has coached for 2 seasons at Nebraska -- 1 which included any tournaments. Fran has coached for ELEVEN YEARS at iowa. It makes no sense to expect anything from Hoiberg at this point (although he has beaten Fran).

"Underwood has only made it to the round of 32 at IL with arguably better talent"

I have to laugh at your limitation of "accomplish" to NCAA tourney wins. In his third try, Underwood has won a Big Ten Tournament title. Fran has yet to do that in 10 tries. Fran's Big Ten Tournament record is .333. LO F'ing L! Underwood has finished in second place twice in his first four years in the league. Fran has yet to do that even one time in ELEVEN SEASONS. Underwood has accomplished more in four seasons at Illinois than Fran has in ELEVEN SEASONS at iowa.

As for "with arguably better talent" .... I hate to break it to you, pal, but acquiring talent is part of being a good coach.


"Archie is gone, but while at IN, he never even made it to the NCAAs, even with arguably better talent"

Archie has a better record at Indiana that Fran has at iowa (.603 vs. .587), and Archie was fired after 4 seasons because he didn't win anything and couldn't beat Purdue. He beat iowa though and Fran is still here after ELEVEN SEASONS. Funny how some programs fire coaches who don't win anything in less than ELEVEN SEASONS. Those programs are crazy and always end up hiring Todd Lickliter.

"Holtmann has only made it to the round of 32 at OH State with arguably better talent"

In four seasons, Holtman has qualified for the NCAA tournament is every single season. in ELEVEN SEASONS, Fran has never had a four year stretch where he accomplished that. Holtman coached his team to a Big Ten Tournament Final in his first four seasons. Fran has yet to do that in ELEVEN SEASONS. To add insult to injury, Holtmann makes less than Fran.

Again, the "arguably better talent" point is nonsensical. Part of being a winning coach is getting better talent than your competitors. lol

"Turgeon took MD to the Sweet 16, but with arguably better talent."

In seven seasons in the Big Ten, Turgeon has finished second twice and won a Big Ten Regular season Championship. He has a better overall record and a better league record than Fran and he makes LESS money than Fran. In ELEVEN SEASONS at iowa, Fran has never won any kind of title or finished second in the league.


"Chris Collins has only made it to the round of 32 at Northwestern and only finished above 5th once in the B1G"

Indeed. Fran has a better overall record and big ten record than the head coach of Northwestern. Hug your pillow tonight and smile. Hey!, did Fran accomplish all of this greatness "with arguably better talent?" lol

"Painter has done very well."

No shit. lol


"And who cares that Archie Miler beat Iowa twice this year? Iowa swept Izzo, Hoiberg, Turgeon, Painter, and Collins this year. Means nothing."

It means a coach who got his ass booted swept a higher ranked Fran McCaffery coached team. That's what it means.

"I have to laugh at your examples of 2 newer head coaches - Gard walked into a great situation at WI which appears to be falling apart now that his recruits are coming in/leaving."

Laugh all you want. In seven seasons, Gard has been to two Sweet Sixteens, finished second once, and won a Big Ten regular season title. In ELEVEN SEASONS, Fran has been unable to accomplish any of those things even once. As for it "falling apart" lol How much $ will you bet that Iowa finishes above Wisconsin next season?

"And Howard will not be making less than McC for long unless he has a HUGE nosedive or gets caught cheating somehow. In any case, Howard is an exception. He's making less than a lot of coaches with lessor results."

Howard is no exception. He, like all of the coaches discussed above, has accomplished considerably more than Fran has in considerably less time.

I will give Fran one thing, though. There is no better coach in the nation at finding playing time for his own sons. Could that be one of the reasons that almost every coach you discussed above had "arguably better talent?" lol

nah.... couldn't be....


You are not good at this.

 

[ZumaHawk]

I never said McC's first 5 years were a gimme. His first 2 were not going to be good but he has battled pretty well after that with .500 or better B1G seasons except for 2017-2018.
And ow many coaches making more than McC have gone further in the NCAA Tournament with their B10 teams?
Izzo is Izzo.
Hoiberg hasn't done squat yet at NE. As usual, he has a lot of turnover every year he coaches so using turnover as an is just an excuse.
Underwood has only made it to the round of 32 at IL with arguably better talent
Archie is gone, but while at IN, he never even made it to the NCAAs, even with arguably better talent
Holtmann has only made it to the round of 32 at OH State with arguably better talent
Turgeon took MD to the Sweet 16, but with arguably better talent.
Chris Collins has only made it to the round of 32 at Northwestern and only finished above 5th once in the B1G
Painter has done very well. He had the luxury of following a legend but he built on that and has done very well.
Other than Izzo, Turgeon and Painter, the other 5 coaches have not achieved more than McC even though they are much better situated for recruiting and have had better classes. I would say that means they had worse results based on expectations.

And who cares that Archie Miler beat Iowa twice this year? Iowa swept Izzo, Hoiberg, Turgeon, Painter, and Collins this year. Means nothing.

I have to laugh at your examples of 2 newer head coaches - Gard walked into a great situation at WI which appears to be falling apart now that his recruits are coming in/leaving. And Howard will not be making less than McC for long unless he has a HUGE nosedive or gets caught cheating somehow. In any case, Howard is an exception. He's making less than a lot of coaches with lessor results.

BBHawk you are arguing with Raptor who isn’t a Hawk fan.......he hates everything Hawkeyes! It’s obvious!

 

[Raptorpeeps]

BBHawk you are arguing with Raptor who isn’t a Hawk fan.......he hates everything Hawkeyes! It’s obvious!

Yawn....

Does it somehow comfort your weak constitution to declare anyone who tells a truth that you don’t like to be ‘not a fan.’ Does it somehow make you feel better about yourself?

Is writing some facts about Fran McCaffery’s record at Iowa really equivalent to “hating everything Hawkeyes?” lol. Do you really believe that? Can anyone really be such a simpleton?

Yes, I’d like to see Iowa actually win something someday. Yes, I say so when that hasn’t happened yet.

That means I “hate everything Hawkeyes.” lol.

Fran McCaffery is not Iowa, and after ELEVEN SEASONS, Fran McCaffery is what his record says he is. Sorry if that is more than you can handle.

Enjoy the seasons, and make sure you always defend underperforming millionaires, you true fan, you.

 

[Stephen Hawk King]

Yawn....

Does it somehow comfort your weak constitution to declare anyone who tells a truth that you don’t like to be ‘not a fan.’ Does it somehow make you feel better about yourself?

Is writing some facts about Fran McCaffery’s record at Iowa really equivalent to “hating everything Hawkeyes?” lol. Do you really believe that? Can anyone really be such a simpleton?

Yes, I’d like to see Iowa actually win something someday. Yes, I say so when that hasn’t happened yet.

That means I “hate everything Hawkeyes.” lol.

Fran McCaffery is not Iowa, and after ELEVEN SEASONS, Fran McCaffery is what his record says he is. Sorry if that is more than you can handle.

Enjoy the seasons, and make sure you always defend underperforming millionaires, you true fan, you.

Ok maybe you are a self-described "fan," but I would NEVER invite you to any Hawkeye related event.

 

[mooresville hawk]

Yawn....

Does it somehow comfort your weak constitution to declare anyone who tells a truth that you don’t like to be ‘not a fan.’ Does it somehow make you feel better about yourself?

Is writing some facts about Fran McCaffery’s record at Iowa really equivalent to “hating everything Hawkeyes?” lol. Do you really believe that? Can anyone really be such a simpleton?

Yes, I’d like to see Iowa actually win something someday. Yes, I say so when that hasn’t happened yet.

That means I “hate everything Hawkeyes.” lol.

Fran McCaffery is not Iowa, and after ELEVEN SEASONS, Fran McCaffery is what his record says he is. Sorry if that is more than you can handle.

Enjoy the seasons, and make sure you always defend underperforming millionaires, you true fan, you.

You voice your concerns very loudly and sometimes annoyingly on a message board. This is going to have zero impact on whether or not Fran is retained as Iowa’s head coach. Have you reached out to Barta or anyone at the University to express your concerns?

I bring this up because you are going to continue to be an unhappy fan based on what you have written. I do share your desire for Iowa to do better and cannot dispute a lot of what you have written, but I am not going to dwell on the negatives and do try to enjoy the positives. I have said before that I will root for Iowa as long as Fran is the coach and will root for Iowa when there is a new coach. Overall, I do like Fran and still hold out hope that he can help Iowa get back to the Sweet Sixteen or further. This may not happen, but I am an optimist by nature.

 

[BBHawk]

You voice your concerns very loudly and sometimes annoyingly on a message board. This is going to have zero impact on whether or not Fran is retained as Iowa’s head coach. Have you reached out to Barta or anyone at the University to express your concerns?

I bring this up because you are going to continue to be an unhappy fan based on what you have written. I do share your desire for Iowa to do better and cannot dispute a lot of what you have written, but I am not going to dwell on the negatives and do try to enjoy the positives. I have said before that I will root for Iowa as long as Fran is the coach and will root for Iowa when there is a new coach. Overall, I do like Fran and still hold out hope that he can help Iowa get back to the Sweet Sixteen or further. This may not happen, but I am an optimist by nature.

He's not an Iowa fan. That he uses a picture of Lute is laughable. He wouldn't have liked Lute, either, and I am sure that IF he had been alive when Lute coached here, he would have complained that Lute didn't really accomplish anything and that his use of 4-corners offense was an abomination.

This is a loser poster who is a troll. His team is not doing so well so he gets his pleasure here by trolling.

 

[mooresville hawk]

He's not an Iowa fan. That he uses a picture of Lute is laughable. He wouldn't have liked Lute, either, and I am sure that IF he had been alive when Lute coached here, he would have complained that Lute didn't really accomplish anything and that his use of 4-corners offense was an abomination.

This is a loser poster who is a troll. His team is not doing so well so he gets his pleasure here by trolling.

I do not agree. I do believe that raptor and others do want Iowa to do better. I do not always agree with the messages that they post, but I do think that we all ultimately want Iowa to win.

 

[BBHawk]

I do not agree. I do believe that raptor and others do want Iowa to do better. I do not always agree with the messages that they post, but I do think that we all ultimately want Iowa to win.

What does he say that says he wants Iowa to win? That has never been the purpose of any of his statements. Never.

 

[Jizzer]

Yawn....

Does it somehow comfort your weak constitution to declare anyone who tells a truth that you don’t like to be ‘not a fan.’ Does it somehow make you feel better about yourself?

Is writing some facts about Fran McCaffery’s record at Iowa really equivalent to “hating everything Hawkeyes?” lol. Do you really believe that? Can anyone really be such a simpleton?

Yes, I’d like to see Iowa actually win something someday. Yes, I say so when that hasn’t happened yet.

That means I “hate everything Hawkeyes.” lol.

Fran McCaffery is not Iowa, and after ELEVEN SEASONS, Fran McCaffery is what his record says he is. Sorry if that is more than you can handle.

Enjoy the seasons, and make sure you always defend underperforming millionaires, you true fan, you.

Nobody is really defending, they just know it's not the most opportune time to make the arguments you're making. If you're excusing Fred's first two years, you should do the same for Fran's first couple years, but you're not. You just want to bitch over and over again.

 

[Jizzer]

What does he say that says he wants Iowa to win? That has never been the purpose of any of his statements. Never.

Yeah, most are on to him. He just hates Fran, like several others on here. Hiding anonymously while doing it, shows character.

 

[IllQChawk]

It’s far from crazy. I don’t think this team goes .500 in the league though.

Way too early but here are the teams I see finishing ahead of Iowa in the league:

1. Michigan
2. Maryland
3. Purdue
4. Ohio State
5. Michigan State
6. Illinois
7. Indiana
8. Wisconsin
9. Iowa
10.Rutgers
11. Nebraska
12. Northwestern
13. Minnesota
14. Penn State

Got to laugh at Wisconsin finishing ahead of Iowa next year....not coming back is Trice, Ford, Potter, Anderson, Reuvers, & McGrory. But brings back their nutt puncher Davison and Wahl.
Iowa is in a much better place with their roster then Wisconsin is and it's not even close....

 

[Raptorpeeps]

Nobody is really defending, they just know it's not the most opportune time to make the arguments you're making. If you're excusing Fred's first two years, you should do the same for Fran's first couple years, but you're not. You just want to bitch over and over again.

Excuse Fran’s first two years all you want if it makes you feel better. What about the most recent NINE?!

lol.

BB was most definitely defending Fran’s body of work. If saying none of those coaches have outperformed him (what a freaking joke) is not defending Fran than I don’t know what is.

what would be a more “opportune” time to tell the truth about Fran, Jizzer? Hahahaha

You guys are clowns. Nothing more. I’m not insulting you, I’m accurately describing you. And doing that doesn’t mean that I hate you.

This must be a lot for you to absorb all at once so take your time with it.

 

[Jizzer]

Excuse Fran’s first two years all you want if it makes you feel better. What about the most recent NINE?!

lol.

BB was most definitely defending Fran’s body of work. If saying none of those coaches have outperformed him (what a freaking joke) is not defending Fran than I don’t know what is.

what would be a more “opportune” time to tell the truth about Fran, Jizzer? Hahahaha

You guys are clowns. Nothing more. I’m not insulting you, I’m accurately describing you. And doing that doesn’t mean that I hate you.

This must be a lot for you to absorb all at once so take your time with it.

6 of the last 8 years we've made the tourney, so after the 2018 season, it would have been an opportune time, this isn't as hard as you make it. Calling others Clowns while anonymously pretending to be a message board tough guy, who think what they say and do will have some affect on what happens with Iowa bball, is hilarious.

If you are an Iowa fan, prove us wrong, what is your name? Twitter?