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Privatize the Postal Service?

Do you agree or disagree with the idea of privatizing the US Postal Service?


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This was mentioned in passing in another thread. Apparently Trump is pushing to privatize the USPS.

A couple of months back, he was trying to get the USPS to raise rates on Amazon and others.

As most of us with a brain have been aware, the GOP has imposed "starve it until it breaks" rules on the USPS. I guess now Trump figures it's broken enough to move to the next stage.

Here's the Wall Street Journal article for those who want more info. It's fun to watch the WSJ pretend to be journalists.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-fix-for-postal-service-privatize-it-1529659801
 
I'm dead in the middle. As a consumer, I like the fact that typically the prices are better than UPS of FedEx for one-off shipments, and the tracking and delivery times have gotten really good. In my recent experience, USPS is just a much better service than UPS or FedEx.

I don't like the fact that it's government competing with private business, and UPS, FedEx, and DHL serve a purpose as well, and I'd hate to see them lose viability. USPS hasn't really had to be a viable business, because it's a government organization, giving it an unfair advantage.

Here's another thought, if it went private, the chinese would buy it.

I have no vote, I'm dead in the middle and can't get excited about either option.
 
Strongly disagree, and I am pretty conservative. The USPS is a necessary government service that connects this country and allows its citizens to physically ship something from one place in this country to another. Yes, it might cost tax payer money but that is a price worth paying to live in a civilized society. Maybe the government needs to quit choking the USPS until it can't function. The rules surrounding benefits funding for the USPS are a bit drastic and need to be revised. Doing so would allow it to function better.
 
Strongly disagree, and I am pretty conservative. The USPS is a necessary government service that connects this country and allows its citizens to physically ship something from one place in this country to another. Yes, it might cost tax payer money but that is a price worth paying to live in a civilized society. Maybe the government needs to quit choking the USPS until it can't function. The rules surrounding benefits funding for the USPS are a bit drastic and need to be revised. Doing so would allow it to function better.

The first thing is to outlaw the postal worker's union. Then some progress can be made.
 
People who are in favor of privatizing the post office usually seem to live in cities. If you live in rural America, this would hurt you the most, as deliveries would be less frequent as there is less profit there.
 
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Trump mulls bringing US Postal Service into Commerce Department​

Such a move could advance the president’s interests in privatizing the agency, but the idea is already seeing resistance.

President Donald Trump said his administration is considering merging the U.S. Postal Service into the Department of Commerce, a move that would give the White House more influence over its operations.

“We’re thinking about doing that and it’ll be a form of a merger, but it will remain the Postal Service, and I think it’ll operate a lot better than it has been over the years,” Trump said during a swearing-in ceremony Friday for Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick. “It’s been just a tremendous loser for this country.”

The Trump administration could also take an approach not involving a merger by “just using some of the very talented people that we have elsewhere so it doesn’t lose so much,” the president said.

The Postal Service lost $9.5 billion during fiscal year 2024, but posted positive results in Q1 2025 with $144 million in net income. The agency has pushed for administrative and legislative reform to ease its financial challenges, such as pension funding changes.

Putting the Postal Service under the Commerce Department’s control could help the president advance efforts to privatize the agency, something he expressed interest in during a December press conference.

“There is talk about that,” Trump said. “It’s an idea that a lot of people have liked for a long time. We’re looking at it.”

Such an action could usher in a flurry of changes for the agency that is a critical cog in the last-mile delivery ecosystem. The Postal Service handled more than 7.2 billion parcels in its package delivery services segment in fiscal year 2024, and it has secured more direct relationships with shippers during Postmaster General Louis DeJoy’s tenure. DeJoy announced last week he plans to step down.

“The USPS reaches every corner of the U.S., including rural areas that private companies often ignore,” said Anthony Pizza, VP of growth and innovation at parcel carrier SpeedX, on LinkedIn. “Its affordable mail supports small businesses and delivers essentials like medicine and bills. Full privatization could raise costs sharply and cut many jobs, threatening fairness and access.”

Pizza floated the idea of restructuring the agency instead, privatizing its parcel delivery side that competes with other carriers while keeping its mail delivery operations public. That approach “might blend efficiency with access, sidestepping a full overhaul,” he said.

Despite its struggles, any Postal Service privatization ambitions from the Trump administration are likely to face resistance from lawmakers.

A resolution introduced in the House of Representatives on Jan. 28 said Congress should take all appropriate measures to keep the Postal Service as an independent establishment that isn’t subject to privatization. It said such a move “would jeopardize the booming e-commerce sector” and spark higher prices and reduced services for customers, particularly in rural areas.

The resolution had 113 cosponsors as of Monday, and six of them are Republicans. The National Association of Letter Carriers, a union for USPS city letter carriers, voiced support for the resolution.

More recently, Democrats on the House of Representatives’ Committee on Oversight and Government Reform urged the president to uphold the Postal Service’s independent status and abandon plans that would compromise that.

“Any effort to privatize the Postal Service or move it into an executive branch department requires explicit authorization from Congress, which Congress would not provide,” they said in a letter Saturday.
 
They would jack rural prices all to hell and any rural person that can't afford that would just be SOL. The other option would be to only deliver to rural like once a week maybe per rural area.
this

flat rate pricing does work in shipping

it's location, location, location
 
It was such a an easy sell for them as Americans have been very much conditioned to look at it in a way that if makes money then good and if it loses money then bad. The USPS was never intended to be for profit because it is a service.
Thank God we've found ways to make elections obscenely profitable. Advertising, bribery, kickbacks, earmarks, pork barrel, etc., etc. Otherwise we might never have them.

/sarcasm (sort of)
 
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I'm dead in the middle. As a consumer, I like the fact that typically the prices are better than UPS of FedEx for one-off shipments, and the tracking and delivery times have gotten really good. In my recent experience, USPS is just a much better service than UPS or FedEx.

I don't like the fact that it's government competing with private business, and UPS, FedEx, and DHL serve a purpose as well, and I'd hate to see them lose viability. USPS hasn't really had to be a viable business, because it's a government organization, giving it an unfair advantage.

Here's another thought, if it went private, the chinese would buy it.

I have no vote, I'm dead in the middle and can't get excited about either option.
The Post Office never competed with any “private” entity. The private sector encroached upon the USPS…The Postal Service was there first and it was a SERVICE the government provided for the young nation! A NON-profit service! Interlopers have seen an opportunity to make this “service” a for profit business… and frankly all they have done is forced higher prices in us consumers.
Packages I dont mind the competition but letter deliver and daily mail…it isn’t going to improve with privatization. That is “the service” aspect of the mail. For profits generally suck at service.
 
It was such a an easy sell for them as Americans have been very much conditioned to look at it in a way that if makes money then good and if it loses money then bad. The USPS was never intended to be for profit because it is a service.
Profit is how you tell if the output (service in this case) is more valuable than the inputs.
If it isn’t, those inputs could be put to more valuable use.

My question is, what do y’all get in the mail in 2025? The only thing I can recall getting in the mail that wasn’t already received electronically (or straight to the trash mailers) was a toll notice.
 
Profit is how you tell if the output (service in this case) is more valuable than the inputs.
If it isn’t, those inputs could be put to more valuable use.

My question is, what do y’all get in the mail in 2025? The only thing I can recall getting in the mail that wasn’t already received electronically (or straight to the trash mailers) was a toll notice.
I(we) get snail mail every single day. Junk nail, family news, bills-statements…the whole gamut. It’s a whole lot easier ( and safer) to deal with than “electronic mail”…imo.
“Profit” in no ways measured level of service or customer satisfaction.
 
Profit is how you tell if the output (service in this case) is more valuable than the inputs.
If it isn’t, those inputs could be put to more valuable use.

My question is, what do y’all get in the mail in 2025? The only thing I can recall getting in the mail that wasn’t already received electronically (or straight to the trash mailers) was a toll notice.

Medications, parcels, the usual. The library systems move a lot of media through the USPS. Certified letters, voting ballots, VA correspondence.
 
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Profit is how you tell if the output (service in this case) is more valuable than the inputs.
If it isn’t, those inputs could be put to more valuable use.
There are things you do as a nation that are good for the nation but that don't necessarily turn a profit. Most we don't want to have turn a profit since, among other things, that invites corruption. Our justice system, for example. Public schools. Park Service. Lots more.

Universal health care is another that shouldn't aim at turning a profit, but could be profitable in the sense that healthy people work more and pay more taxes.

Similarly, we don't try to turn our roads into profit centers. Instead, we keep them up to enhance commerce, and that makes people's lives better and also increases revenues.
 
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