Proof that Fran CAN recruit

[Franisdaman]

From Blair's Twitter Page (https://twitter.com/BlairRIVALS )

Patrick McCaffery is the most highly ranked Iowa Hawkeyes Basketball commit of the Rivals era (2003-Present).

And 6 of the 8 players listed below are Fran recruits. One is Alford's, the other is Lick's.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

Patrick McCaffery is the most highly ranked Iowa Hawkeyes Basketball commit of the Rivals era (2003-Present).

And 6 of the 8 players listed below are Fran recruits. One is Alford's, the other is Lick's.

Link: http://rvls.co/2xljmJm

Yes, I'm sure Fran worked tirelessly to get Patrick McCaffery to commit. Can't imagine the long hours Fran spent to secure his commitment.

Lol, j/k.

But yes, I agree, Fran has been an aggressive recruiter since Day 1 and his efforts by and large have been paying off the last couple years. I think a lot of kids like his style of play and if Iowa can start making noise in March it will only draw more attention from top prospects.

 

[nitewing]

From Blair's Twitter Page (https://twitter.com/BlairRIVALS )

Patrick McCaffery is the most highly ranked Iowa Hawkeyes Basketball commit of the Rivals era (2003-Present).

And 6 of the 8 players listed below are Fran recruits. One is Alford's, the other is Lick's.

getting Pat and Connor are great but most outside of Iowa will say getting his kids does not show that Fran can recruits, now let Fran get a 5* recruit like Robinson-Earle that would speak volumes. even getting Jackson-Davis would do the same.

getting Smith out of Tennessee was a very good job of recruiting. Cook and Garza were a good start. Fran is doing a great job of recruiting but before outsiders will acknowledge his recruiting he needs to get more OUT OF STATE top rated players,

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

getting Pat and Connor are great but most outside of Iowa will say getting his kids does not show that Fran can recruits, now let Fran get a 5* recruit like Robinson-Earle that would speak volumes. even getting Jackson-Davis would do the same.

getting Smith out of Tennessee was a very good job of recruiting. Cook and Garza were a good start. Fran is doing a great job of recruiting but before outsiders will acknowledge his recruiting he needs to get more OUT OF STATE top rated players,

To an extent I agree with you. But, wow, look at some of the in-state talent Iowa has been producing lately: McCafferys, Weiskamp, Carton, Foster, etc. Let's also not forget Adam Woodbury had a Roy Williams offer (usually a death blow to past Iowa coaches chances of landing a highly rated in-state kid), so I wouldn't necessarily turn my nose at what Fran has done in state so far (and yes, I know Carton and Foster could go elsewhere).

As I said in another thread, I think a lot of kids like Fran's style of play, evidenced by the caliber of players that have been taking visits this fall. The next step is for Iowa to start making some noise come March and I think you will see Fran landing the type of Top 25/Top 50 you speak of from time to time.

 

[BirdistheWord]

My best guess at the top 8 Raveling or Davis era recruits:

Roy Marble (Top 25?) - McDonalds All American, Parade All American 3rd Team
Ed Horton (Top 25?) - McDonalds All American, Parade All American 3rd Team, IL Mr Basketball
Ray Thompson (Top 50?)
Al Lorenzen (Top 15?) - McDonalds All American, Parade AA 1st Team
Brad Lohaus (Top 25?) - McDonalds All American
Kenyon Murray (Top 25?) - McDonalds AA
Chris Kingsbury (Top 25?) - McDonalds AA
Sam Okey (Top 25?) - McDonalds AA

 

[perryhawk]

My best guess at the top 8 Raveling or Davis era recruits:

Roy Marble (Top 25?) - McDonalds All American, Parade All American 3rd Team
Ed Horton (Top 25?) - McDonalds All American, Parade All American 3rd Team, IL Mr Basketball
Ray Thompson (Top 50?)
Al Lorenzen (Top 15?) - McDonalds All American, Parade AA 1st Team
Brad Lohaus (Top 25?) - McDonalds All American
Kenyon Murray (Top 25?) - McDonalds AA
Chris Kingsbury (Top 25?) - McDonalds AA
Sam Okey (Top 25?) - McDonalds AA

I would put Andre Woolridge in that group as well....I know he transferred from his home state school of Nebraska but I think that was because Tom had done such a good job recruiting him initially.

 

[hawk-i bob]

whats more impressive is what Fran does with recruits (regardless of the number of stars) 'afterwards'...such as
B1G 10 1st teamers
2014 Dev Marble
2015 Aaron White
2016 Jarrod Uthoff
2017 Peter Jok

I would suggest to any future recruit...take a hard look at what Fran does to help you with your future basketball aspirations 'after college'. And he isnt going to blow smoke up your (you know what) in the recruiting process.

You want a straight shooter who will help make you better than what you think you are today....then.Fran is your man.

 

[tedboy78]

To an extent I agree with you. But, wow, look at some of the in-state talent Iowa has been producing lately: McCafferys, Weiskamp, Carton, Foster, etc. Let's also not forget Adam Woodbury had a Roy Williams offer (usually a death blow to past Iowa coaches chances of landing a highly rated in-state kid), so I wouldn't necessarily turn my nose at what Fran has done in state so far (and yes, I know Carton and Foster could go elsewhere).

As I said in another thread, I think a lot of kids like Fran's style of play, evidenced by the caliber of players that have been taking visits this fall. The next step is for Iowa to start making some noise come March and I think you will see Fran landing the type of Top 25/Top 50 you speak of from time to time.

I agree. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. You can't afford to ignore in-state talent in hopes of getting a 5 star everyone wants. The risk is too great of losing both of them.

 

[nitewing]

wait Fran will get investigated for giving Pat illegal benefits mom's cooking free room boarding fre use of the family car a moped to get around campus once he enrolls the FBI will be investigating the Iowa program.

 

[The Sleeping Dog]

Using ESPN as a consistent base our roster has
Cook High 4* top 100
Garza Mid 4* top 100
McC #1 Mid 4* top 100
Moss Low 4* (100-120)
Bohannan Low 4* (100-120)

Incoming

Joe W High 4* (Top 50)
McC #2 High 4* (Top 50)

That's pretty good recruiting at Iowa. Four straight different guys first team All Big Ten. Coach McC will have even more to sell recruits if we can make it the weekend in the BTT and maybe get a Sweet 16. Those are not unrealistic goals for this squad.

 

[nitewing]

I will take a Sweet 16 or further over a run in the BT as the goal is making deep runs in the NCAAT

 

[nitewing]

Using ESPN as a consistent base our roster has
Cook High 4* top 40
Garza Mid 4* top 100
McC #1 Mid 4* top 100
Moss Low 4* (100-120)
Bohannan Low 4* (100-120)

Incoming

Joe W High 4* (Top 50)
McC #2 High 4* (Top 50)

That's pretty good recruiting at Iowa. Four straight different guys first team All Big Ten. Coach McC will have even more to sell recruits if we can make it the weekend in the BTT and maybe get a Sweet 16. Those are not unrealistic goals for this squad.

this season Iowa will make some serious noise in both the BT and the NCAAT.
also barring injuries the end of season collapse due to players running out of steam will also not be applied. as now the seasoning is more spread out
1 SR
4 JR's
6 SO's
3 FR.

this is what happened in the 15-16 season when it was
4 SR's
1 JR Jok
1 SO Uhl
and 6 FR Williams, Moss who red shirted, Ellingson a RS FR Wagner, Hutton who RS'd and Fleming. also JUCO Transfer Jones who played a total of 10 games in 2 seasons.
these transferred out
RSFR Hutton who never played, Fleming who went back to Tennessee to be closer to home.

Moss was the highest rated recuit of that 2015 class and he RS'd, Baer who walked in 2014 along with Ellingson both RS'd.

 

[DanHawkPella]

Where would Russ Millard have been?

 

[seer_hawk]

From Blair's Twitter Page (https://twitter.com/BlairRIVALS )

Patrick McCaffery is the most highly ranked Iowa Hawkeyes Basketball commit of the Rivals era (2003-Present).

And 6 of the 8 players listed below are Fran recruits. One is Alford's, the other is Lick's.

Blair left off the rated walk-on's. He thinks Connor was dropped from the Rivals rankings because he didn't sign a LOI. I have him listed at 116 before he was dropped. ESPN has him ranked #92.

 

[seer_hawk]

My best guess at the top 8 Raveling or Davis era recruits:

Roy Marble (Top 25?) - McDonalds All American, Parade All American 3rd Team
Ed Horton (Top 25?) - McDonalds All American, Parade All American 3rd Team, IL Mr Basketball
Ray Thompson (Top 50?)
Al Lorenzen (Top 15?) - McDonalds All American, Parade AA 1st Team
Brad Lohaus (Top 25?) - McDonalds All American
Kenyon Murray (Top 25?) - McDonalds AA
Chris Kingsbury (Top 25?) - McDonalds AA
Sam Okey (Top 25?) - McDonalds AA

I don't recall where Settles was ranked, but he was also a big get, as well as Woolridge who transferred from Nebraska.

There weren't as many recruiting lists out there in the 70',80's, and 90's, but I think you have most of those recruits too high. Van Coleman was probably partial to most of those guys though!

 

[DanL53]

Before Van Coleman. Back in the days of Street and Smith's and Parade All Americans. It seems like Iowa high school guys quite often got ranked pretty high. But I believe it had to do with the cockamamy method of selection from newspaper All State lists. Hardly anybody really saw many of these kids.

So maybe a magazine writer calls a few coaches and says, "Who ya got"? And that's about the extent of the predictions.

In short...it was a lot of guesswork.

Today, I don't know who gets looked over closer, High School Basketball players, or race horses.

 

[Ronman]

You go back to those old Street & Smith magazines and it is remarkable how many of their top picks just didn't pan out. Today, there are still a few, but these kids are seen so often at various tournaments that a truer estimate of their basketball skills is easier to assess.

 

[DanL53]

You go back to those old Street & Smith magazines and it is remarkable how many of their top picks just didn't pan out. Today, there are still a few, but these kids are seen so often at various tournaments that a truer estimate of their basketball skills is easier to assess.

True. It was a lot more fun back then.

 

[hawki1968]

Anybody who has ever written that Fran cannot recruit does not understand the pool of dung he inherited. Outside of taking over Rutgers, there might not be a team in the B1G that has been in as bad of shape as the program was when Fran took over--from a boredom, perception, attendance point of view.

I mean, it is difficult to recruit when there is only 1/4 of the gym full, and your starting centers are Devon Archie and Andrew Brommer. It was a Herculean undertaking in perception readjustment.

The effects linger even to this day (though I will admit the foul stench has almost, almost cleared the confines of Carver).

 

[terrehawk]

getting Pat and Connor are great but most outside of Iowa will say getting his kids does not show that Fran can recruits, now let Fran get a 5* recruit like Robinson-Earle that would speak volumes. even getting Jackson-Davis would do the same.

getting Smith out of Tennessee was a very good job of recruiting. Cook and Garza were a good start. Fran is doing a great job of recruiting but before outsiders will acknowledge his recruiting he needs to get more OUT OF STATE top rated players,

Trashing Fran again. SMH.

 

[Gary-Waterloo]

I know that Woodbury and Gesell were local but I think we undervalue what a great job Fran did to get them to Iowa. Both were wanted by a lot of schools and Iowa was awful at the time. He sold them and they started the turnaround. Getting Cook out of St. Louis was also a great get.

Fran has done fine recruiting. Iowa was at a point where their fans had lost interest in the program and he got players in to turn that around. Iowa was so bad Western Kentucky beat us for Fant and I really couldn't criticize him because he went to the NCAA with them.

 

[Cydkar]

My best guess at the top 8 Raveling or Davis era recruits:

Roy Marble (Top 25?) - McDonalds All American, Parade All American 3rd Team
Ed Horton (Top 25?) - McDonalds All American, Parade All American 3rd Team, IL Mr Basketball
Ray Thompson (Top 50?)
Al Lorenzen (Top 15?) - McDonalds All American, Parade AA 1st Team
Brad Lohaus (Top 25?) - McDonalds All American
Kenyon Murray (Top 25?) - McDonalds AA
Chris Kingsbury (Top 25?) - McDonalds AA
Sam Okey (Top 25?) - McDonalds AA

BJ was a top 100 guy as well.

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Settles was around #75

Millard was around #50

Jeff Walker was around #35

 

[LifelongHawk]

Ricky Davis omitted.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

My best guess at the top 8 Raveling or Davis era recruits:

Roy Marble (Top 25?) - McDonalds All American, Parade All American 3rd Team
Ed Horton (Top 25?) - McDonalds All American, Parade All American 3rd Team, IL Mr Basketball
Ray Thompson (Top 50?)
Al Lorenzen (Top 15?) - McDonalds All American, Parade AA 1st Team
Brad Lohaus (Top 25?) - McDonalds All American
Kenyon Murray (Top 25?) - McDonalds AA
Chris Kingsbury (Top 25?) - McDonalds AA
Sam Okey (Top 25?) - McDonalds AA

Funny this is brought up, I am assuming (especially Raveling and that era) where involved in similar things that the FBI is investigating. Raveling was on that 30 for 30 about the whole Nike dude and was as corrupt as they come, Lute Olson.....assuming the same

 

[hawk-i bob]

Funny this is brought up, I am assuming (especially Raveling and that era) where involved in similar things that the FBI is investigating. Raveling was on that 30 for 30 about the whole Nike dude and was as corrupt as they come, Lute Olson.....assuming the same

the FBI done did investigated...felony charges followed. Speculation & assumption is a little different.

 

[milehighhawkeye24]

the FBI done did investigated...felony charges followed. Speculation & assumption is a little different.

Well I assume my speculation is correct Pretty sure this thing goes pretty deep, even deeper than some might speculate I assumer

 

[seer_hawk]

Settles was around #75

Millard was around #50

Jeff Walker was around #35

Did Walker pan out (post-Iowa and his checkered time in Iowa City)? I was really excited for his signing, only to see him crash and burn before getting to play for us.