Proposed Rule Changes
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The 6 foul rule is great, and will help Iowa since Fran has his silly 2 foul rule. The 4 foul per half ejection is what makes no sense.
So a player gets 0 fouls in the first half, 4 in the second, but less than 6 overall. Yet ejected. Dumb
That's the way I understand it. It would rarely happen but would be very dumb when it did. Definitely wouldn't be able to play a guy with 3 fouls in the first half or you risk losing him for the game. I don't understand the thought process for adding that in. Just move to 6 fouls and call it good.
Six fouls would probably mean more freethrows and a slower game IMO.
I don’t like the concept of 6 fouls. What problem is it trying to solve? Fix the way the refs call games(from start to finish of each game and the whole season) and players will adjust to causing less contact and fewer fouls. Don’t enable crappy refs by allowing them to call more fouls.
The other two proposals are trying to fix problems and I’m ok with those being enacted.
The other two proposals are trying to fix problems and I’m ok with those being enacted.
Go to 10 minute quarters and 6 fouls. Solve most of the problems. By having quarters, the games don't become a free throw shooting content as the fouls reset at every quarter. No 1-1's, 2 shots on the 5th foul of a quarter. Let individual players have 6 fouls before disqualification. People aren't interested in the best players sitting on the bench with fouls.
But men's basketball will instead decide to change some other stupid rule like technicals for celebrating good plays. Can't have that.
Agree on all accounts. Refs do love calling techs when a player hangs on the rim for .5 seconds..."That's a T! How dare you hang on the rim! Stop the game everybody, this guy just hung on the rim. We need to T him up because...because...because that's a T!"
6 fouls will enable teams like MSU to escalate their rough play, which is what I personally don’t want to see any more of as it has ruined the game.
I‘m ok with moving to quarters though. I think that has helped the women’s game.
I‘m ok with moving to quarters though. I think that has helped the women’s game.
You mean that silly rule that most coaches adhere to? That one?
Yep, that one.
Most college coaches also don't know what a two for one is, and think that if you're down 5 with 15 seconds to play you don't need a 3. Go for the quick 2!
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Haven't seen that called much over the past few years.
Or who get criticized because they let someone stay in to get the 3rd foul? Just can't win with some people.
Do you seriously believe that "most college coaches" don't understand the concept of two for one, or just maybe they would rather have one good possession versus throwing up a bad shot then followed likely by a rushed shot at the end? In reality, most college coaches understand the game at a level that is beyond the average fan's comprehension.
Just my opinion, but I see a whole lot off arm fouls by the offense that aren't called.
Need to clean up the interior play. Why is it not a foul when a player backs down a guy by bumping him off his spot repeatedly. The defender is in a defensive position, This by definition is a charge.
Also get rid of the arc under the basket. Make the player driving to the basket do it under control. This rule penalizes an off the ball player who is playing good team defense. The rule basically tells the offensive player that he doesn't need to account for any other defenders other than the person guarding him.
As far as flops, I think this is a rule in search of a problem. I bet that this happened (when it wasn't a judgement call) about once a game if that.
Watch real basketball & they're always gunning for two-for-ones. Though maybe if college bball switched to 4 quarters teams would try it more often...doubt it.
They obviously know what it is, they just aren't very good at getting their teams to take advantage of it. I love watching teams that can get a two for one if they just shoot with at least 5 seconds left on the shot clock run it all the way down to zero. Gets me every time!
I always thought that players should get a 6th foul if a game goes to OT.
Should get another foul or two to give as well. The first foul of OT should not result in free throws.
This is something I can get behind. 1 extra foul every 2 overtime periods or something like that. I would prefer that any disqualified players don’t get re-qualified if the game goes to overtime though. Foul out in regulation and you’re done. Foul out with the 6th foul in the first OT and you’re done for the game even if it goes to 3 or 4 OTs.
I agree hugely with all but the last part, and mildly with the last part. I know things evolve over time, but the basketball of today isn't "real" basketball. So much of today's game is "if they aren't going to call it, keep doing it, and keep doing it more to see at what point they'll call it". Your point of backing guys down is spot-on. Defensive position is defensive position. And if I'm quick enough to get in to position to draw a charge, the offensive player is out of control and it doesn't matter where on the floor that happens.
I think the flop became a problem because officials saw a guy on the floor and felt they "had to" call something, and more times than not it was a charge. Go back to a no-call and let the guy who flopped give up and easy bucket and the flops likely go away. It's a total douche-move, more times than not pulled by a total douche nozzle. Let they flopper lay there while his guy goes and dunks and he may stop doing it.
Could the level of talent possibly have anything to do with it? I'd much rather have one excellent possession than two poor one's.
Oh I have watched "real" basketball plenty. In fact often enough to have seen rushed shots that were often missed for the opportunity to have the final, but very brief possession. I would also suggest the skill level of your so called real basketball may dictate the quicker shots and the ability to produce on a short clock. My basic point with the original post is the assumption he/she knew more about basketball than actual coaches.
Absolutely, I agree. In college though it's like they don't even consider the possibility. There are plenty of times a team will have 20-25 seconds of shot clock to work for the first of a two for possession, but you can tell they aren't even thinking about it. Bohannon this past year did try it a few times. It's something that they won't be able to pull off like they do in the pros, but should at least be attempted when the situation presents itself.
