LOL not everywhere. Case in point. Our HS recommends mask wearing at games and maybe like 20% do it. We do not limit spectators either. Iowa is higher because some of them do not like to be told what to do.
PSA - wear a mask to support college football
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Indeed, the masks make (some) people feel better, but the evidence suggests they do little to slow the spread. And furthermore that slowing the spread does little or nothing to reduce the ultimate infection/death rate........it only alters the timing of those infections deaths.
Nonetheless, if I'm in a public place, I wear a mask. It's not particularly burdensome, and if it does little other than making people feel better, why not? Now, the mandates to wear a mask are a different story. Totalitarianism kills.
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One difference between Sweden (most of the world) vs this whiny country....we are filled with morbidly obese people. A lot of people with pre existing conditions will die because of their own stupidity or because of the selfishness of their fellow Americans. We are such a pussy society. Waaaah maaah rights. Grow the **** up and wear a mask.
ANother difference is population age, with Sweden having a far higher percentage of their population over age 65, as well as a far higher percentage over age 80.
You're absolutely right. I'll admit my tone has definitely changed. I'm one that didn't take it seriously in the beginning. At first I was pissed off about basketball suddenly going away and thought Covid wasn't a big deal. As a fan it hurt and I'm sure I aired some of that laundry on these boards. Then it became more than just losing sports and I went to taking all the precautions I could. And like Eternal said, it's not hard. I have a work mask and a car mask that goes on in public. I wash both with the rest of my clothes. Then just normal hand washing and hand sanitizer when necessary.
Bottom line is we got football back and if the numbers stay low we'll get a whole season. Not to be off topic, but we've got a damn good basketball team coming up too. I guess I'd rather do something that might help rather than something that definitely doesn't.
Yes, PLEASE read up on this. In 1918/19, they couldn't figure out why the masks were not stopping the spread. It has been 100 years and in February Fauci was saying it was ridiculous to make people wear masks, why? Because in 100 years masks never have been proven to prevent the spread of a virus. You want to stop your cough and sneezes from shooting things out? Great, that's what the masks are for. Also, learn about what exposure is defined as and why they say keep 6 feet apart. Nothing to do with masks or face guards.
Wear them when business require it and stay away from people.
Wearing a mask is more about protecting the people around you than it is about protecting yourself. Suppose we all walked around naked and someone peed on your leg. You would get wet. If you wore pants and someone peed on you, you would still get wet just not quite as wet as you would had you been naked. But if the other guy wore pants and peed, you would not get wet at all. That is how masks work.
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When I put on my mask to go into a public place, i feel like I am doing my small part in keeping others healthy. Its got nothing to do with whether I am a democrat or a republican, white or black, high risk or low risk. Its a simple gesture of kindness towards my fellow human beings. its a piece of cloth......relax and wear one!
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Almost as if they’re a healthier society in general. Maybe a natural cleanse is just what the world needs 🙄
My thoughts, not that anyone asked or should care.
1) Do not believe in government mask mandates.
2) Fully support private mandates. If they have a mask rule in place and you don't want to wear one because "hoax", go somewhere else or get your ass thrown out.
3) You're a dumbass not to wear one when in public. I'm not worried about catching it and dying. I'm not worried about my family dying or developing myocarditis. I'm worried about the older fat guy with the Korean War Vet hat I saw driving around the cheese section the other day at HyVee.
4) We'd be back to halfway normal if people weren't dumbasses.
5) **** how both parties decided to make this political.
1) Do not believe in government mask mandates.
2) Fully support private mandates. If they have a mask rule in place and you don't want to wear one because "hoax", go somewhere else or get your ass thrown out.
3) You're a dumbass not to wear one when in public. I'm not worried about catching it and dying. I'm not worried about my family dying or developing myocarditis. I'm worried about the older fat guy with the Korean War Vet hat I saw driving around the cheese section the other day at HyVee.
4) We'd be back to halfway normal if people weren't dumbasses.
5) **** how both parties decided to make this political.
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I would like your opinion on how the dems made this political ? I see how Trump has used it with tweets and public comments. Not arguing just interested in your take.
In the big picture, society has three components, civil society, political society, and markets.
Civil society refers to the space for collective action around shared interests, purposes and values, distinct from government, and business. It relies on free will, and is the aggregate of individual private citizens and organizations and institutions that manifest the interests of society.
Political society by contrast is based on force and coercion (like mask mandates). Any time there is reliance on political society, that relaince is evidence of an issue having been "politicized".
I'm not trying to be a Richard here, but the "try reading in to stuff a bit more".....The numbers came from Dr. Neil Ferguson at Imperial College London:
This worst‐case simulation came up with 2.2 million deaths by simply assuming that 81% of the population gets infected –268 million people– and that 0.9% of them die. It did not assume health systems would have to be overwhelmed to result in so many deaths, though it did make that prediction.
And here we have an idiot who thinks he is Mr Macho. You could have it and be asymptomatic. But the problem would be is that you would be spreading it to others, yes, possibly killing someone. You're selfish with no respect for others. If I met you in one of those stores, I would take out my cell phone, plaster your face on the net for your employer to see. If you got fired, I would drink a beer and say goood riddance.
This is absolutely hilarious and sad at the same time. Thanks for the chuckle though!
Tread carefully. Such rationality isn't tolerated in these parts.
That's the thing. Unless we can recreate, in a laboratory, what would have happened under full shutdown vs doing nothing, or any other potential scenario, we can only speculate what has helped and what has hurt.
I'd love to know how Hawaii, in the middle of the Pacific ocean, with no travel and a mask mandate, has such a high rate of the virus. If they can't stop it, no one can. At least assuming their reported numbers are accurate.
Well . . . yeah. Our country was founded on people whining about how they were taxed. We took on arguably the strongest empire in world history for what purpose? So individuals could decide for themselves what is right. The crux of the matter is whether this situation is a case where a person's actions can endanger others. Some believe so, some do not.
That was the Imperial study that the College themselves redacted shortly thereafter, saying it was fundamentally flawed and incorrect?
Furthermore, it wasn't "without mask mandates and lock downs and closures" as the OP erroneously claimed. Instead it was "In the (unlikely) absence of any control measures or spontaneous changes in individual behavior".
However, by the time the report was issued we knew spantaneous changes in individual behavior were already occurring without authoritarian mandtes (just look at TSA checkpoint data, retail sales, etc. from back in February), and certain to multiply.
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Not sure why. If anything, it was pretty disheartening. Guy was overweight (as many 70 year olds are), on a scooter (maybe disabled?), but wearing a mask and doing his best to keep his distance. Some mouthbreather (wearing cutoff sleeves and embodying every other stereotype you could probably come up with) starts reaching around him to get stuff from the coolers. Pissed me off.
Don't be a dumbass. Don't be an asshole. It's not hard.
I was driving in my residential neighborhood last week and saw my DT Barnum loving neighbor getting his mail from the mailbox as I drove towards his house. I "punched it" and sped down the street as I approached. He turned and gave me an ugly look. I hit the brakes hard, stopped and asked what might be the problem. He asked something to the effect of "why the f--k was I driving so fast and what the f--k was my problem?"
I told him that I didn't like anyone mandating how fast I could drive and that, if he had a problem with it, maybe he should stay inside to stay safe and get his mail at midnight when hardly anyone is driving. Told him that neither he nor the government had any right to tell me how to drive my car. Asked him if there had been anyone killed in the neighborhood after getting hit by a car.
Did you think to mention that you're dumb enough to imagine that you were being forced to drive a car?
And you're flabbergasted that people might attend a football game outdoors without their mask?
No, I am just saying that people are not wearing them if given the option at public events in my area
Forced to drive a car? WTF are you claiming? It's America. I have the right to use my car as I see fit and I don't need any boot-licking neighbor who is too scared to cross the street telling me not to drive 50 mph down a residential street when the government is trying to mandate a speed of no more than 25 mph. Particularly when no one in our neighborhood has ever been killed by a car, let alone injured. If he feels as though as if his safety is impacted by people driving too fast for his tastes, that's his problem. He can stay in his basement to stay safe. Why should he or our government get to mandate how I should act for his or others' protection?
And yet almost nobody is infected.
Maybe if masks were banned in your county, the case load could be reduced from four infections to zero?
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Im kinda hoping this is all a joke but you can never tell these days.
Does your speed limit have a randomized controlled trial showing it prevents deaths or accidents?
Examples of real life for the non believers, like you. Cool man.
Moving the goal posts. Masks have absolutely nothing to do with the 2.5 million dead being off. It has everything to do with fear porn and flawed statistics. If you think masks saved 2.5 million people you are the dumbest person on this board.
also, why does a state like Illinois have have a death rate 60 per 100k and Iowa is 35 but illinois has a state wide mask mandate and had hard shutdowns? I’ll tell you it has nothing to do with masks.
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This thread is actually hilarious. You guys realize that masks and shutdowns don’t eliminate a virus? You can flatten a curve sure, which we did, hospitals were never over run. You will not eliminate a virus social distancing and wearing a fing mask. The teams that will have the least issues this fall are the ones that already have had the majority of their players infected. Doesn’t have shit to do with heros on this board.
If masks are the answer when we can’t social distance, then why can’t we have full capacity stadiums?????
