I hate PSU but do think they have the best uniforms in Big Ten followed by Iowa, michigan, and MSU. The rest are awful imo. Nebraska and Wisconsin have exact same uniforms
PSU talks a lot of smack for a program that should have gotten death penalty
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Iowa and Curt Ference covered up sexual abuse. It's on the internet, so it must be true. I guess you still gotta support yer Hocks! I'll bet that you're a face painter. Yeah, that's right.
https://deadspin.com/5027393/univer...-staff-conspired-to-cover-up-a-sexual-assault
So, according to you,
murder: OK
coverup of murder: OK
sexual assault of women: OK
child rape: NOT OK
Mr. Howe's parents and family let him down. Now he wants to blame Joe Paterno. A football coach. He makes my stomach turn. POS!
Think about this. Jerry Sandusky started the Second Mile. He adopted 6 children. He fostered over a dozen more. How does one go about opening and maintaining a charity for at risk male youth, adopt and foster children, and never ever be suspected of abuse? Sounds like the state agencies failed: Department of Public Welfare, Children and Youth Services, the Office of Attorney General, District Attorney's office, and police. Let's blame the Penn State football program. Why Second Mile and the state agencies were never investigated is beyond comprehension.
I really wish Hawk fans would stop bringing this Sandusky thing up. Too many are using it as ammunition to win a message board fight and it doesn't have anything to do with past or present on the field performances for a who's better debate.
I remember reading once that Iowa, BYU and Penn St were the only 3 teams that have won some form of national title in FB, to never have a major NCAA violation in it's history. I'm assuming that means, to have that company, they've ran a pretty clean program until this. No Penn St fan isn't sickened by what happened nor support who they believe is responsible.
Penn St fans, if you weren't over here posting anything negative, it wouldn't get brought up! We're going to beat you by 10+ and you're looking at an 8-4 season I'm afraid. You need to take out Wiscy and stop losing to that dirt-bag Dantonio!
I remember reading once that Iowa, BYU and Penn St were the only 3 teams that have won some form of national title in FB, to never have a major NCAA violation in it's history. I'm assuming that means, to have that company, they've ran a pretty clean program until this. No Penn St fan isn't sickened by what happened nor support who they believe is responsible.
Penn St fans, if you weren't over here posting anything negative, it wouldn't get brought up! We're going to beat you by 10+ and you're looking at an 8-4 season I'm afraid. You need to take out Wiscy and stop losing to that dirt-bag Dantonio!
You are right, however I sure as hell wouldn't be calling other fans team a pimple on their ass if we had a pedophile coach in our history.
They could have worried a little more about the victims than a stupid statue.
Saw more than one story about tearful fans longing for the statue to return. Maybe it doesn’t represent most of the fan base, but those are some majorly f’d up priorities, there.
I give Paterno credit for at least saying he should have done more, since most involved went into next level CYA mode.
Yet he was allowed to bring boys on campus and was known to attend bowl games with boys staying in his room YET NOTHING WAS DONE TO PREVENT THIS OR WARN THE PARENTS OF THESE VULNERABLE CHILDREN.
Congrats on the uniforms, JFC.
Rob Howe piece from HN about the scandal. It still matters to those who have been victims of abuse.
https://www.hawkeyenation.com/opinion/howe-memories-from-penn-state-abuse-case-remain-strong
I had zero intensions on getting involved until the bolded statement above.
First: you're placing the blame at the feet of a foundation Sandusky created.
Second: every grown man I know would not even think about showering with young boys.
I hope you're a Pitt fan masking as a PSU fan, because that was a truly disgusting defense.
Well, PSU followed up the Paterno scandal by hiring a coach (one coach removed actually) that admitted an evaluation criteria for assistants is how hot their wives are. This tells something about Franklin and PSU’s character.
As far as attention to detail goes, Franklin gave a press conference after the tOSU game where he droned on about how he was going to will a high level of attention to detail into his team to make them elite. The result of that contrived tirade was a loss to MSU and a narrow victory over Indiana.
The team’s results mirror the character of the coach: Franklin is all hat and no cattle. He recruits well because teenagers go for his schtick and this gives him a talent advantage. But when it comes down to winning time, his team’s character is like that of the coach - pretty weak and that’s why PSU has lost games late.
At the Rose Bowl in 2016 the 3 worst fans I encountered were 2 PSU fans sitting right next to us and some assbag ISU fan running his mouth out by the concessions at halftime(I know somebody else saw this shitbird as he was making a spectacle about the score)
I sat and listened to these 2 turds talk shit about how they knew it was gonna happen and Iowa had no business being there(not saying we showed up ready for that game btw) and I let it fly for for about 1.5 quarters and then lit them up about where the **** PSU was today? And about 5 other Hawk fans said ‘yeah stfu’....they did and left at halftime and didn’t come back.
I sat and listened to these 2 turds talk shit about how they knew it was gonna happen and Iowa had no business being there(not saying we showed up ready for that game btw) and I let it fly for for about 1.5 quarters and then lit them up about where the **** PSU was today? And about 5 other Hawk fans said ‘yeah stfu’....they did and left at halftime and didn’t come back.
Penn State did nothing of the sort. So you can parade around with your righteous anger all you want but, it doesn't change the fact that what you are angry about didn't happen.
You know who else said they'd do the same? MSU and OSU fans. Then Nassir and Strass got busted molesting 1000's of student athletes. How many of those fans do you think threw all their shit in the trash?
You are the same person that said Ferentz wasn't a good coach, and couldn't win at a big program too. Yeah, all those 4 and 5 star recruits would ruin him. You live in a fantasy world with rosy PSU glasses. Everyone there is innocent, you are superior to everyone else, and you just don't understand why people think you are all asshats when you talk crap about every other school. Your fanbase is just idiots. You can't even have a logical conversation because you disregard everyone else's opinion, because you think you know everything. The fact that you keep coming back here just to argue proves everything anyone ever needs to know about you
I didn't say Ferentz wasn't a good coach. One of your fans claimed if he was at a big time program that he would dominate. I simply said that was an unknown because Ferentz never tried. He is comfortable at Iowa and that's fine. I don't blame him one bit for that decision but, there are plenty of coaches that had success at one level and then didn't have the same success at the next level.
The rest of your post is just nonsense.
There are maybe a handful of programs that are in your words "at the next level". PSU isn't one of them.
We're headed in that direction. Back to back 11 win seasons, big ten title, closing in on back to back top 10 recruiting classes after a top 15 recruiting class. There's a reason for the exaggerated hate for Franklin and, it ain't because of his personality.
If you're trying to establish credibility, at least learn to put the comma before "and" and "but." Basic grammar we learn in 6th grade.
Otherwise, you're very persuasive. I'm thoroughly convinced now that Joe Paterno was the victim and is completely above reproach and that James Franklin has a heart of gold.
Nobody said he would dominate. One of your PSU posters claimed Ferentz and Bill Snyder were the 2 most over rated coaches in the country, and said something about winning 7 games a year. I responded if he were coaching at a traditional power and had the resources and tradition to bring in 4 and 5 star talent like an OSU/Michigan he would be thought of much differently. Both you and the original poster disputed this claim. Like i said, Saban and Meyer aren't winning national championships if the aren't at that type of school. Ferentz puts lots of 2 and 3 star players that he develops into the league, while big name schools cherry pick the biggest, strongest, and fastest players. Half of Saban or Meyers recruits are going to succeed no matter where they go to school. Iowa's players by and large, not so much
Calling us Penn does irritate us. Would you like it if people referred to you as Iowa State? Penn is a great school - but it is a different school.
1) The quote by Franklin about players wifes is out of context. Yes he said it - but a) it was a joke, and b) it was used to explain that he wants confidence in coaches.
2) Alot of what Franklin states is for a reason. That 'tirade' was for recruiting. There were tons of top recruits in the room, and he was speaking to them about how close we are. And we lost the MSU game because the players didn't execute the small details (you know catching the ball).
3) IU - for whatever reason - Bloomington is our house of horrors (like West Lafayette is to the buckeyes). We have only had 3 game since we joined the big 10 there that we won by more than 14. For whatever reason - we struggle to put them away (despite owning the series).
4) Until this year - our recruiting ranking was essentially the same as MSU. and well be hind OU/UM. This year the average class ranking (Five year straight average) is MSU 26 , PSU 16, UM 18, OSU 3.6. So we played OSU even despite being less talented. Yes MSU was an upset - but it wasn't a horrible game. Despite Trace playing arguably his worse game ever at PSU, and the recievers dropping tons of passes, and the fortunate bounce of 4 MSU fumbles being recovered by Sparty, and PSU not catching a handful of INTs that shouldve been caught - they beat us by 4 points. I'm not making excuses - just PSU made numerous mistakes.
Unfortunately, the bold sentence isn't even close to true in PSU land, at least not on their Rivals board, but it should be. I'm not even sure that opinion is allowed.
Btw, for the record, Sandusky was never convicted of raping a boy in the Penn State showers. I’m not asserting his innocence. But the incident which McQuery reported in 2002 did not result in a rape conviction. McQuery was an unreliable witness who changed his story several times. To be clear, Sandusky was convicted of a number of other horrible crimes, but none of those crimes were committed in the Latch Building.
This guy can’t be real. This has to be a joke, a fake profile. No one can be this obtuse
I told you guys before there are some fans that claim McQueary made up everything. It's really unbelievable...
Here’s Franklin’s quote:
"I've been saying it for a long time, I will not hire an assistant coach until I've seen his wife. If she looks the part, and she's a D-1 recruit, then you got a chance to get hired. That's part of the deal.
"There's a very strong correlation between having the confidence, going up and talking to a women and being quick on your feet and having some personality and confidence and being fun and articulate, than it is walking into a high school and recruiting a kid and selling him."
It doesn’t appear as if he’s joking or just drawing a parallel between recruiting and dating.
As far as his behavior during the presser, it was clear that the display was all for show as you indicate.
Franklin doesn’t appeal to me and he never has. It just seems like it’s all for show with him, nothing is genuine. Obviously some young people buy into the show, but I can never figure out why.
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