Well coached team but maybe we need a rule change where the clock stops during the last "so many" minutes of the 1st half
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Purdue & their "2-for-1 Killer" Strategy
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If you can think of that and get your kids to do it more power to you.
you think Kirk or fran could manage that.
you think Kirk or fran could manage that.
A couple weeks ago, the ref caught on to Connor delaying and started counting before Connor was holding the ball.
He is smart as hell. High IQ, a quarterback and great leader when he's on the court.
This is why my wife Margaret is urging me to increase Connor's minutes.
Thoughts?
Happy wife, happy life. Plus all of the extra time at home when it doesn’t end well 😜He is smart as hell. High IQ, a quarterback and great leader when he's on the court.
This is why my wife Margaret is urging me to increase Connor's minutes.
Thoughts?
Yeah Connor was doing it with under 2 minutes at end of game (clock stops on made baskets in last minute). He was taking a hugely delayed amount of time to go get the ball and inbound it. Ref did the right thing by starting the 5 second count for inbounding the ball.
No issue with Painter doing it. Easy fix is to stop the clock on made baskets of last minute of both halves. I wouldn't mind clock stopping on made baskets of last 2 minutes of second half.
Well since Connor does it…..you never miss an opportunity to bitch even when you’re wrong.
are you kidding?
First, show where connor has done this.
second, Frans teams have to lead the nation in having the ball with the shot clock turned off, yet the other team scores. Not any I recall this year but it's been habitual in past seasons, almost to the point of being comical. How does fran do in close games?
Frans timeout and end of game management is as bad if not worse than kirks. You can't knock kirk for many things but you can for clock management.
Not combing through data. I've watched it for a decade and I rarely if ever see it in other college games.
No time to comb through data that doesn’t exist.
You lead HR in the bitching category. No data necessary, it’s readily apparent.
Was this when he threw the ball back at the reff? Then had to call a TO?
I don't remember the game exactly? Was Iowa way up?
I thought it was because the opponent was knocking the ball away after a make to stop iowas transition.
Theres really only 1 chance for a 2for1 in college, its the end of the first half.
I don't see the point unless its in that last 30 seconds or in a scenario when you have a large lead I guess.
Theres only one chance for a 2for1 scenario in college. End of the first.
I've never seen anyone purposely go 2for1 to end a game.
It's common in the nba because of quarters.
I've never seen anyone purposely go 2for1 to end a game.
It's common in the nba because of quarters.
Listen to Margaret. She was an all-american. She can actually shoot too where as, let’s face it FRAN is just a distributor. Plus when Margaret is happy things at home go a lot smoother!He is smart as hell. High IQ, a quarterback and great leader when he's on the court.
This is why my wife Margaret is urging me to increase Connor's minutes.
Thoughts?
Clock management is part of the game. The defense does it sometimes by catching the ball out of the basket or instead of letting the other team inbound it quickly to get up court, they grab it and then throw it to the ref cutting a few seconds. Many used to hold it for a bit to allow their D to set up the full court press (see some old film from the Dr. Tom days). Rules allowed the refs to call a delay of game warning with the second being a technical, much like today's flop warning/penalty situation.
In Iowa High School years ago, teams would take extra time in their time outs. They got a notice at 45 seconds and another at 60 and if they weren't breaking the huddle, the ref could place the ball on the floor at the out of bounds spot and start counting. They can do the same thing under the bucket after a made bucket. This tactic by coaches has been going on for years. It isn't new, just called out in the video clip in the OP.
In Iowa High School years ago, teams would take extra time in their time outs. They got a notice at 45 seconds and another at 60 and if they weren't breaking the huddle, the ref could place the ball on the floor at the out of bounds spot and start counting. They can do the same thing under the bucket after a made bucket. This tactic by coaches has been going on for years. It isn't new, just called out in the video clip in the OP.
May be but fran give ample opportunity.
Obviously you aren't really paying that close of attention over the years if you haven't seen it.
It would be like trying to quantify kirks use of the clock to end halves. You know it sucks and you never see other teams do it quite so poorly.
I could be wrong but I don't remember Connor holding the ball to kill an opponents a 2 for 1.
The only time that can happen is at the end of the first half.
College teams dont even think to take advantage of 2 for 1 very often.
correct. if he did it that's great and I'll give him all the credit in the world. That would be a head's up play.
First player I remember doing this was Aaron Craft at Ohio St. Surprised more teams aren't using it.
I think you're a virgin.He is smart as hell. High IQ, a quarterback and great leader when he's on the court.
This is why my wife Margaret is urging me to increase Connor's minutes.
Thoughts?
Between off-ball defense and the rare occasion that he’s limiting our opponents’ possessions before halftime, I have to demand that Connor starts and plays 30+ minutes per game.
somehow my youtube tv starts that game after half. Looking at the espn play by play: indiana scores with 31 seconds left by the time you reset its at/under 30..
And later in the same game with 3:13 (2nd half) is when he allowed about 12 seconds to go off the clock with Iowa up 78-70.
Not exactly a 2 - 1 situation but a heads up play when Iowa was trying to milk the clock and IU was starting to press.
Maybe not to end the half, but Connor kills clock all the time when Iowa has the lead late and opposing teams are setting up a press. He waits for Iowa to get into its press break before grabbing the ball to pass in and sometimes even calls the press break based on the defense
I doubt you’ll really ever acknowledge that you were wrong, so I’ll just leave this here.
Notice the shot clock and all that time it would take to reset it?
