Quarrels?

[Hawkeyeinsoutherncalifornia]

Sorry in advance if this has been talked about but has he sniffed the field much this year? Is he eligible for a redshirt year if he doesn’t play or hasn’t played that much or has that been burned? I was/am excited about this kid with lightening fast speed .. just haven’t seen/heard much since the first game of the year ..

 

[And1Hawk]

ISU Troll ^^^^^

 

[Suterman]

He hasn't played a down as far as I know. He is buried on the depth chart and no he can't redshirt.

 

[Kurt Warner]

He evidently is just not very good

 

[IAHWKGUY]

ISU Troll ^^^^^

I don’t know HawkinSCA, but come on. You do that on every one of his posts, and all of sudden you are the real troll...

Also, the post was neither negative in nature, so no troll, nor anything to do with ISU, but you had to come in and make it about both?

I’m thinking someone is on the verge of being banned.

 

[KuwaitHawk]

I don’t know HawkinSCA, but come on. You do that on every one of his posts, and all of sudden you are the real troll...

Also, the post was neither negative in nature, so no troll, nor anything to do with ISU, but you had to come in and make it about both?

I’m thinking someone is on the verge of being banned.

Again?

 

[IAHWKGUY]

Again?

Maybe I missed it, again what? He has been banned before?

 

[cb_Iowa]

BF said he has been passed up by 3 true freshman in yesterdays press conference. Moving forward that is a good thing in my opinion.

 

[Herkmeister]

Kinda sounds like he's not terribly assertive. Like he needs to toughen up and compete better.

I've been told he's just not a factor and no one even talks about him. So obviously not what we had expected. Perhaps we were all victims of fake rumors or news.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

Looks like he made the wrong choice if, as I would assume, this was about finding a place with immediate playing time available.
Hard to blame him as the receiver corps at Iowa looked to be pretty weak at the time he was making his decision.
He gets another free year of school out of the deal, so there's that.

 

[OILCHECKER]

Looks like he made the wrong choice if, as I would assume, this was about finding a place with immediate playing time available.
Hard to blame him as the receiver corps at Iowa looked to be pretty weak at the time he was making his decision.
He gets another free year of school out of the deal, so there's that.

Free? I was not aware that he was actually on scholarship.

 

[Rifler]

Nahhhh, we don't like to quarrel around here,... it's frowned upon.

 

[Herkmeister]

I hate to see this kind of thing, but it's life. We all make some decisions that don't work out.

 

[DodgerHawki]

Kinda sounds like he's not terribly assertive. Like he needs to toughen up and compete better.

I've been told he's just not a factor and no one even talks about him. So obviously not what we had expected. Perhaps we were all victims of fake rumors or news.

Why do people just make assumptions about a player's toughness or assertiveness if they don't play? It's not all that surprising that he's not playing. Quarrels didn't receive approval from the NCAA for the transfer until well after fall camp had already started. He was behind all of the freshmen, who had been on campus since June doing 7 on 7 and the other work on getting to know the offense.

It doesn't mean that the player sucks or that he will never contribute. Who knows what next year looks like once he has the full off-season.

 

[Herkmeister]

Why do people just make assumptions about a player's toughness or assertiveness if they don't play? It's not all that surprising that he's not playing. Quarrels didn't receive approval from the NCAA for the transfer until well after fall camp had already started. He was behind all of the freshmen, who had been on campus since June doing 7 on 7 and the other work on getting to know the offense.

It doesn't mean that the player sucks or that he will never contribute. Who knows what next year looks like once he has the full off-season.

Didn't mean to imply anything about his toughness. But what BF said did coincide with things I've heard from good sources. That's my assessment which could certainly be wrong.

 

[Hawkeyeinsoutherncalifornia]

“DBAG ALERT”

ISU Troll ^^^^^

 

[relishingwinning18]

BF said he has been passed up by 3 true freshman in yesterdays press conference. Moving forward that is a good thing in my opinion.

Saw this, and that's a good thing, I agree with you. Our future at WR/TE is looking very good for the next 2-3 years with Fant/Hockenson/Ihmir-smith alone. If Cooper and Smith continue to develop, it'll be awfully fun to watch the next couple years.

 

[Titanhawk2]

Why do people just make assumptions about a player's toughness or assertiveness if they don't play? It's not all that surprising that he's not playing. Quarrels didn't receive approval from the NCAA for the transfer until well after fall camp had already started. He was behind all of the freshmen, who had been on campus since June doing 7 on 7 and the other work on getting to know the offense.

It doesn't mean that the player sucks or that he will never contribute. Who knows what next year looks like once he has the full off-season.

Because BF said in the paper that he could probably step up his assertiveness (paraphrased)

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

Kinda sounds like he's not terribly assertive. Like he needs to toughen up and compete better.

I've been told he's just not a factor and no one even talks about him. So obviously not what we had expected. Perhaps we were all victims of fake rumors or news.

I think that your remark about his assertiveness is likely right on the mark. I wouldn't necessarily question his toughness. The big issue is simply how a guy goes about his everyday business and what does he do to improve.

It's not uncommon for college athletes to not work with as much urgency (and consequently not assert themselves more) if they don't think that they have a chance to play much. Sometimes the light doesn't go "on" until the perceived level of opportunity goes up. By the time Quarrells was able to hit camp - any advantages he had over the younger guys was likely negated by the fact that they had the advantage of working with the QBs through the whole summer. Already, the perception at WR would likely have been that Easley and VandeBerg would be the top 2 WRs. The question is who could find reps beyond that?

That's where a more assertive mentality comes into the picture. A number of those young guys must have taken what Kelton had told them last spring to heart. For those who don't know ... once Kelton hit campus, one of the first things he did was connect with the '17 WR recruits and tell them to make sure that they prepare themselves to beat out the few veterans the Hawks. Kelton then told the veterans that it's his job to help them all to improve ... to encourage the young guys to beat the older guys ... and it's the job of the older guys to both hold off the charge made by the young guys AND to help bring the young guys along (with their development).

Thus, my impression is that the young guys, once they hit campus, they really approached things the right way. They were hungry ... but they were also willing to work, willing to learn, AND they were going to do what it took to see the field.

 

[Herkmeister]

I think that your remark about his assertiveness is likely right on the mark. I wouldn't necessarily question his toughness. The big issue is simply how a guy goes about his everyday business and what does he do to improve.

It's not uncommon for college athletes to not work with as much urgency (and consequently not assert themselves more) if they don't think that they have a chance to play much. Sometimes the light doesn't go "on" until the perceived level of opportunity goes up. By the time Quarrells was able to hit camp - any advantages he had over the younger guys was likely negated by the fact that they had the advantage of working with the QBs through the whole summer. Already, the perception at WR would likely have been that Easley and VandeBerg would be the top 2 WRs. The question is who could find reps beyond that?

That's where a more assertive mentality comes into the picture. A number of those young guys must have taken what Kelton had told them last spring to heart. For those who don't know ... once Kelton hit campus, one of the first things he did was connect with the '17 WR recruits and tell them to make sure that they prepare themselves to beat out the few veterans the Hawks. Kelton then told the veterans that it's his job to help them all to improve ... to encourage the young guys to beat the older guys ... and it's the job of the older guys to both hold off the charge made by the young guys AND to help bring the young guys along (with their development).

Thus, my impression is that the young guys, once they hit campus, they really approached things the right way. They were hungry ... but they were also willing to work, willing to learn, AND they were going to do what it took to see the field.

Excellent post. And yes, I think this is correct. Well done and thank you.

 

[DodgerHawki]

Because BF said in the paper that he could probably step up his assertiveness (paraphrased)

Here's the direct quote from the interview. I don't see assertiveness mentioned anywhere, what BF says is that the other guys have moved ahead of him. Which is what happens on teams.

Q. When you look at Matt Quarrels, a guy who came in late, started late, does he fit in right now?
BRIAN FERENTZ: Well, right now, no. Right now we’ve got guys that are ahead of him, and the challenge would be for Matt to push and move past some of these guys. They obviously had a head start on him. But right now those guys have continued to climb, and it’s not so much what Matt is or is not doing, it’s the fact these other guys are coming in every day and pushing it forward, and so I think the challenge for Matt would be to get going a little bit and try to pass him. But right now the encouraging thing is we have healthy competition in that room. I don’t know if we could have said that back in March. That’s encouraging in and of itself that we’re talking about guys that aren’t seeing the field. I think that’s good news, right?

 

[Blair Sanderson]

He hasn't played a down as far as I know. He is buried on the depth chart and no he can't redshirt.

Quarells has played on special teams at one point this season.

To answer the original question, no he can't redshirt. He already used a redshirt year when he was at New Mexico.

 

[soybean]

ISU Troll ^^^^^

Really? I was thinking about asking the same question a couple days ago but forgot. I think its a legitimate topic of discussion.

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

“DBAG ALERT”

When you get caught lying about a family member passing away you don't get to call someone a douchebag.

 

[IAHWKGUY]

When you get caught lying about a family member passing away you don't get to call someone a douchebag.

This was proven true, or you are still just assuming and making accusations? Pretty extreme to call someone a liar when they are potentially grieving the loss of a loved one, whether you believe it to be true or not. In fact kind of a douche move in and of itself. Most people would hold their tongue and let it go either way. Because being wrong is 100x worse one way than being right is the other.

 

[IAHWKGUY]

By the way, if you don’t like someone on this board, they created a really simple solution, it’s called the ignore button (I have used this on several posters myself). I suggest to anyone who doesn’t like a specific poster use it, rather than following them around attacking them and being an ass all over the board.

 

[Roy-munson]

I wonder if they have tried him at returner we need some spark there.

 

[ghostOfHomer777]

Here's the direct quote from the interview. I don't see assertiveness mentioned anywhere, what BF says is that the other guys have moved ahead of him. Which is what happens on teams.

Q. When you look at Matt Quarrels, a guy who came in late, started late, does he fit in right now?
BRIAN FERENTZ: Well, right now, no. Right now we’ve got guys that are ahead of him, and the challenge would be for Matt to push and move past some of these guys. They obviously had a head start on him. But right now those guys have continued to climb, and it’s not so much what Matt is or is not doing, it’s the fact these other guys are coming in every day and pushing it forward, and so I think the challenge for Matt would be to get going a little bit and try to pass him. But right now the encouraging thing is we have healthy competition in that room. I don’t know if we could have said that back in March. That’s encouraging in and of itself that we’re talking about guys that aren’t seeing the field. I think that’s good news, right?

That's funny, I based almost the entirety of my prior post about "assertiveness" based on Brian's interview too.

Ask yourself this ... given that the young guys "are coming in every day and pushing it forward" .... is Quarrels not capable of "pushing it forward?" Look at Easley ... he's a guy who jumped ahead of everyone else (maybe even VandeBerg ... due to health) ... and the thing that distinguished him was his work-ethic ... how he approached things ... what he'd do to earn a role on the team. In other words ... he too was "pushing it forward." If you parse Brian's words ... what he's essentially stating is that Quarrels hasn't done anything wrong (so there isn't a negative reason why he's not playing) .... but nor has he been impressing enough to earn playing time either. He's likely doing what he's supposed to do ... he's likely working hard and he's trying to learn the O and all that stuff. However, if he really wants to be "pushing it forward" ... he needs to assert himself ... he needs to do MORE! That's part of what assertiveness is all about ... it's not just meeting the basics of expectations ... it's trying to do more ... to work harder ... to try to go above and beyond so that you can learn more and learn faster. When you do that ... you improve more and your play stands out more to the coaches (because he can play faster and you're more apt to make plays).

When you read some of the recent interviews about the young WRs ... the impression is that those guys are really approaching things with surprising maturity given their youth. They realize that they need to keep on pushing if they are going to improve enough to see the field ... in order to do that, their play needs to stand out at practice. For their play to stand out in practice ... they need to both work hard and be willing to be detail oriented.

 

[desihawk]

I wonder if they have tried him at returner we need some spark there.

Same thought occurred to me as well. For a receiver who is reputed to be extremely fast but can't get on the field at his position...

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

This was proven true, or you are still just assuming and making accusations? Pretty extreme to call someone a liar when they are potentially grieving the loss of a loved one, whether you believe it to be true or not. In fact kind of a douche move in and of itself. Most people would hold their tongue and let it go either way. Because being wrong is 100x worse one way than being right is the other.

Proven.

 

[Freyvet]

Sorry in advance if this has been talked about but has he sniffed the field much this year? Is he eligible for a redshirt year if he doesn’t play or hasn’t played that much or has that been burned? I was/am excited about this kid with lightening fast speed .. just haven’t seen/heard much since the first game of the year ..

Again, very, very sorry to hear of your brother's tragic death! What is his full name? Want to send something to the family. Obituary? Really want to help - Thanks! God bless!!

 

[JoelBittner]

By the way, if you don’t like someone on this board, they created a really simple solution, it’s called the ignore button (I have used this on several posters myself). I suggest to anyone who doesn’t like a specific poster use it, rather than following them around attacking them and being an ass all over the board.

Agree, I think it's called the Howard Stern effect. At the beginning of his career the audience research showed that the people who disliked him listened to him MORE than the people who liked him. It sounds counter-intuitive and just plain strange, but I'm willing to accept it as true because I've learned something awful as I've counted the decades: a large percentage of Americans are masochists. It really does explain the tendency toward self-destructive behaviors (divorce; drugs; harassing co-workers; obesity; getting arrested to experience the thrill of protests; voting against your own values; going out of your way to read posters you know you don't like; etc etc etc)

End of rant, and if you're wondering how to reply to this post. I suggest, "I just put you on ignore", would be apropos.

 

[NorthDSMHawk]

Proven.

Can you link the thread? Is it worth looking through on a boring Thursday afternoon?

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

I think the thread got deleted it got kinda rough. It was something like "first missed game in 20 years".
Also, telling someone they don't get to call someone a dbag becuase they have recently been exposed as a dbag is far from being a masochist.

 

[IAHWKGUY]

Again, very, very sorry to hear of your brother's tragic death! What is his full name? Want to send something to the family. Obituary? Really want to help - Thanks! God bless!!

No offense, but I’m not sure I would feel comfortable giving out personal information on this site. You just never know. And even if I was, I would at least respect someone’s decision not to.

Personally dealing with cancer myself, and even if a bunch of posters asked where they could go to donate to help, I would politely pass, and just ask for thoughts and prayers in return.

 

[nitewing]

to me with so many untested receivers Quarrel MAY HAVE come in thinking a starters job was his, he found out to late that he was not going to be just given to him. He still has the rest of the season and spring practice to make a statement.

 

[And1Hawk]

I don’t know HawkinSCA, but come on. You do that on every one of his posts, and all of sudden you are the real troll...

Also, the post was neither negative in nature, so no troll, nor anything to do with ISU, but you had to come in and make it about both?

I’m thinking someone is on the verge of being banned.

There are a couple types of trolls. Here are two of these....

1. The 'Confronter'

This type makes no bones about their hatred of all things Iowa Hawkeyes. They hit you straight on.

2. The 'Poser'

This type masquerades as a member of this fan base but tries to be smarter than everyone else by getting in subtle, but well placed digs and stirring up controversy in snarky ways. They say just enough while try not giving away their troll identity. Remember they are smarter than you.

The OP checks a lot of the 'poser' boxes if you have had to view the litany of new threads started by this person with assorted claims and sneaky slams. Take a look at this post in this thread .... just happens to be about Quarrels asking for information like the OP has no idea.... just happens BF just fielded a question about said player and gave a full explanation in his media presser which was posted by Blair for all to read. Ok OP on 'have not heard much'.

This poster posts within 48 hours of a tragedy that he did not make the IL game because his 26 old brother Jeff who OP is 19 years older than died in a traffic fatality in the LA area. It's so important to post on an anonymous message board about missing a meaningless football game in the midst of losing a family member? He choose to make something this serious a public matter but can't post the obit. Yet this story does not strike anyone else as odd given all the other odd posts made by this poster?

Then the OP fires back after several including myself have asked about the obit and we mention that there is no posting of a traffic fatality matching his description (although it's public record). He calls several posters out but does not double down on the original death claim (classic deflection). Instead the thread is deleted.

Then there's posts like this from this OP...,

I have no hatred for ISU I actually like the cyclones ..Either way you spin it they’re a part of Iowa. These wins only help the Hawks when it comes to the Hawkeyes making the playoffs and wining the NC game against Alabama 77-0..

What Iowa fan makes these two statements with the snarky last sentence? Who in college football is projecting a 2 loss team making the playoffs, especially Iowa with half the season to go? Have not heard the claim of Iowa making the playoffs from a single Iowa fan I know. Has there been a 2+ loss playoff team yet - I must have missed it. No one can be this stupid and have any credibility yet there's the OP.

I call him out for being an ISU poser troll and is there a denial? No, name calling instead (more deflection).

Classic troll 'poser' but go on if choose to support it.

 

[Tylerl_28]

This was proven true, or you are still just assuming and making accusations? Pretty extreme to call someone a liar when they are potentially grieving the loss of a loved one, whether you believe it to be true or not. In fact kind of a douche move in and of itself. Most people would hold their tongue and let it go either way. Because being wrong is 100x worse one way than being right is the other.

that thread was proven to be a lie.

 

[Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll]

This was proven true, or you are still just assuming and making accusations? Pretty extreme to call someone a liar when they are potentially grieving the loss of a loved one, whether you believe it to be true or not. In fact kind of a douche move in and of itself. Most people would hold their tongue and let it go either way. Because being wrong is 100x worse one way than being right is the other.

I agree there is alot of risk for not alot of reward however the facts were on my side.

 

[Hawkeyeinsoutherncalifornia]

Are you serious? Do you have mental issues dude that you have to go trolling and try calling someone out when you don’t even know who the F€£% I am? Why do you persist on taking about this subject? What in the hell would I gain from posting a death in the family? I mean does this swell your nuts so big your ego gets bigger too? You’re a flake dude and a psychopath.. you think for one instance I would give personal info out on a football board? Yeah, ok.. so please provide this so called “PROOF” you have ok? Let’s see what you got ok? Please .. I want to everyone to see that you’re a brilliant investigator and can just put some more hurt on me.. I wasn’t asking for your F’ING sympathy or empathy drunk boy.. you must have a seriously boring ass life to go trolling around talking some serious crap .. I want to punch myself for wasting my time even responding back to you as I wasted time on some idiot with a low self esteem.. YOU..



QUOTE="Wasnt-drunk-didnt-troll, post: 4731662, member: 88956"]I think the thread got deleted it got kinda rough. It was something like "first missed game in 20 years".
Also, telling someone they don't get to call someone a dbag becuase they have recently been exposed as a dbag is far from being a masochist.[/QUOTE]