Re-ranking the class of 2012

[Vallholl]

So, here's the 2012 top twenty:

http://www.d1collegewrestling.net/Top200_2012.html


D1CW Top 200 Recruits Class of 2012--Updated 5/8

Rank Name Hometown State Weight College
1. Jason Tsirtsis Crown Point IN 141 Northwestern
2. Taylor Massa St. John's MI 165 Michigan
3. Jimmy Gulibon Derry PA 125 Penn State
4. Jordan Rogers Mead WA 184 Oklahoma State
5. John Meeks Des Moines IA 133 Iowa State
6. Alex Cisneros Selma CA 141 Cornell
7. Mark Grey Rockaway NJ 133 Cornell
8. Doug Vollaro Pine Castle FL 285 Lehigh
9. Nikko Reyes Clovis CA 184 Illinois
10. Devin Peterson Wisconsin Rapids WI 197 Iowa Western
11. Brian Realbuto Somers NY 149 Cornell
12. Joey Davis Santa Fe CA 165 Notre Dame (OH)
13. Zane Richards Carbondale IL 133 Illinois
14. Kyle Crutchmer Tulsa OK 174 Oklahoma State
15. Nate Skonieczny Akron OH 149 Iowa
16. Thomas Gilman Council Bluffs IA 133 Iowa
17. George DiCamillo Highland Heights OH 125 Virginia
18. Rossi Bruno Brandon FL 133 Michigan
19. Zac Brunson Eugene OR 174 Illinois
20. Sam Brooks Oak Park IL 197 Iowa

 

[Vallholl]

And, here's a(n), rather feeble, attempt to re-rank the class. I decided to redo the rankings and give out 8 pts for 1st, 7 pts. for 2nd, ect. NO points were given for a Non-AA.

Re-Rank Name 2014 2015 2016

1 Gabe Dean 3 1 1
2 Cory Clark 5 2 2
3 Jason Tsirtsis 1 3 DNP
4 Thomas Gilman DNP 4 2
5 Isaac Jordan 7 7 2
6 Brian Realbuto 6 2 DNP
7 Tim Dudley DNP 8 2
8 Brent Pfarr DNP DNP 3
9 Dylan Peters 6 DNP 6
10 Willie Miklus DNP 7 6
11 Zane Richards DNP DNP 4
12 Dylan Palacio DNP DNP 4
13 Jimmy Gulibon DNP 5 DNP
14 Kyle Crutchmer DNP 5 DNP
15 Michael Kroells DNP 8 7
16 Eddie Klimara DNP 7 DNP
17 Sam Brooks DNP DNP 8
18 Alex Meyer DNP DNP 8

 

[Vallholl]

I am confident that I have made many mistakes and this then becomes a starting point for someone else (WrestleStat?) to take over and do a better job*.

And FYI, andegre, when you do take it over I have a suggestion: the best way to rank the wrestlers is to add up the points they earned at Nationals so that you can rank them by points, rather than finish.




*This "do a job poorly and have my wife take over" is my strategy for dishes, vacuuming, folding laundry, etc.

 

[Czech Hawk]

2 of top 10 in top 20 now. Says something about rankings and development. Guess some of those guys peaked in high school.

 

[pablow]

And, here's a(n), rather feeble, attempt to re-rank the class. I decided to redo the rankings and give out 8 pts for 1st, 7 pts. for 2nd, ect. NO points were given for a Non-AA.

Re-Rank Name 2014 2015 2016

1 Gabe Dean 3 1 1
2 Cory Clark 5 2 2
3 Jason Tsirtsis 1 3 DNP
4 Thomas Gilman DNP 4 2
5 Isaac Jordan 7 7 2
6 Brian Realbuto 6 2 DNP
7 Tim Dudley DNP 8 2
8 Brent Pfarr DNP DNP 3
9 Dylan Peters 6 DNP 6
10 Willie Miklus DNP 7 6
11 Zane Richards DNP DNP 4
12 Dylan Palacio DNP DNP 4
13 Jimmy Gulibon DNP 5 DNP
14 Kyle Crutchmer DNP 5 DNP
15 Michael Kroells DNP 8 7
16 Eddie Klimara DNP 7 DNP
17 Sam Brooks DNP DNP 8
18 Alex Meyer DNP DNP 8

Good job. Ty Walz was #111 - now ranked #3 at hwt and Eric Montoya was #197, also ranked #3. Lot's of bargains to be had in that class and we did well.

It's amazing what a flop that top ten was.

 

[Vallholl]

Thanks for the suggestions. Walz slides in at 8th and Montoya at 14th

Can someone text andegre and get him working on this?

Re-Rank Name 2014 2015 2016 2017

1 Gabe Dean 3 1 1
2 Cory Clark 5 2 2
3 Jason Tsirtsis 1 3 DNP
4 Thomas Gilman DNP 4 2
5 Isaac Jordan 7 7 2
6 Brian Realbuto 6 2 DNP
7 Tim Dudley DNP 8 2
8 Ty Walz DNP 7 4
T9 Brent Pfarr DNP DNP 3
T9 Dylan Peters 6 DNP 6
T11 Willie Miklus DNP 7 6
T11 Zane Richards DNP DNP 4
T11 Dylan Palacio DNP DNP 4
T14 Eric Montoya DNP DNP 5
T14 Jimmy Gulibon DNP 5 DNP
T14 Kyle Crutchmer DNP 5 DNP
17 Michael Kroells DNP 8 7
18 Eddie Klimara DNP 7 DNP
T19 Sam Brooks DNP DNP 8
T19 Alex Meyer DNP DNP 8

 

[Stanley75]

Not sure what it all means. Maybe nothing other than, no one knows for sure how guys preform at D1 level. Might also mean some guys were in the wrong fit. I think if I were a lower weight stud recruit I would want to go to Iowa to develop. PSU appears to do a great job in the middle weights. Hate to say it.

 

[AFHawk86]

Not sure what it all means. Maybe nothing other than, no one knows for sure how guys preform at D1 level. Might also mean some guys were in the wrong fit. I think if I were a lower weight stud recruit I would want to go to Iowa to develop. PSU appears to do a great job in the middle weights. Hate to say it.

Plus there are different reasons why some don't perform as well at the next level. Would take a lot research and hypothesis to dig into deeper levels. Coaching changes, injury, taking one for the team, too many studs in too few weight classes, etc. The final result may provide coaches another recruiting tool, but we all know there are no guarantees.

 

[Tcalumet]

Thought I heard the 125 pounder from Cornell that won it 2 years ago and was a multiple time finalist (garret?) wasn't in the top 100.

 

[rossel 33]

One thing I notice is that while many top 20 slid backwards, Iowa wrestlers tended to move up for that year. Both Gilman and Clark move into top ten. This does suggest strong development by Brands.

it would be interesting to see this over several years. I second Vallholl's motion to have Andegre do this and expand it to 5 years. I think Earl's site has a recruiting "rewind" that has some similar info.

 

[rossel 33]

Thought I heard the 125 pounder from Cornell that won it 2 years ago and was a multiple time finalist (garret?) wasn't in the top 100.

I've sometimes wondered about kids who come from lesser known high schools, without the powerhouse reputations and superb coaching. I think Garrett may have fit this description (from Chico, CA?) A diamond in the rough.

 

[Vallholl]

And would suggest that /reinforce the point that "iron sharpens iron" with Clark and Gilman both rising. I know I got the idea from somebody and yes, over time, it would be interesting. Also, big fan of people who agree with me.

One thing I notice is that while many top 20 slid backwards, Iowa wrestlers tended to move up for that year. Both Gilman and Clark move into top ten. This does suggest strong development by Brands.
it would be interesting to see this over several years. I second Vallholl's motion to have Andegre do this and expand it to 5 years. I think Earl's site has a recruiting "rewind" that has some similar info.

 

[ad1986]

And would suggest that /reinforce the point that "iron sharpens iron" with Clark and Gilman both rising. I know I got the idea from somebody and yes, over time, it would be interesting. Also, big fan of people who agree with me.

Great development with that class by the Iowa coaching staff. Top level D1 coaches know a lot more about wrestling then almost all ranking services put together.

 

[Vallholl]

Forgot that Nate Skonieczny was in that class as well.

 

[TarpHawk]

Rob Koll gets Coach of the Year for recruiting and developing Dean.

 

[LaxHawk174]

Looks like Dean, Tsirtsis, Gilman and Clark will be the only ones with titles from this class.

 

[wasdt21]

hope cory stays healthy and finishes a strong career.

 

[Wrestlerneverdiesasacatfan]

Great post! Seems to me u need both good coaching and recruiting

 

[Pennstate1985]

What is interesting is that I consider Gilman to be the more accomplished wrestler at this point, but Clark has the better overall results. I guess time will tell. Beyond college, I expect Gilman to shine at 57kg.