Reagan V. Obama

[HallofFame]

http://www.youngcons.com/awesome-in...ears-to-reagans-the-difference-is-astounding/

Some good graphs and info on the two presidents through the first six years in office. Take from it what you will.

 

[TexMichFan]

I take from it two Presidents who lived in very different times and whose terms did not start in the same place. This makes it very difficult to make a judgement.

I did vote for Reagan twice and Obama none.

 

[Funky Bunch]

Did the Young Conservatives do one for Clinton v Bush?

 

[naturalmwa]

Statistics are fun, here's some more:

Just how does this "horrible" Barack Obama compare to the god-like Ronald Reagan? The following comes from the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA), Federal Reserve Economic Data (FRED), Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), the Census Bureau, the Treasury Dept, and US Inflation Calculator. The comparison is for the first four budget years (Oct-Sept) of each President.

The average Dow gain per year: Reagan, 11.81%; Obama, 11.72%

The average Unemployment Rate: Reagan, 8.58%; Obama, 8.69%

The average jobs (thousands) created per year: Reagan, 1638; Obama, 1645

Poverty Rate (3 years only): Reagan, from 14% - 14.4%; Obama, from 14.3% - 15%

By these measures, both Presidents are remarkably similar.

But then there is GDP, debt, and spending. Combining GDP relative to debt is the most common measure for these two.

Average yearly debt to GDP increase: Reagan: 7.83%; Obama, 4.84%

Average Federal government spending increase using Total Expenditure data from BEA:
Reagan: 8.89%; Obama 1.02%

Subtracting inflation: Reagan: 4.21%; Obama, -1.08%

 

[TexMichFan]

Statistics are fun, here's some more:

Just how does this "horrible" Barack Obama compare to the god-like Ronald Reagan? The following comes from the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA), Federal Reserve Economic Data (FRED), Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), the Census Bureau, the Treasury Dept, and US Inflation Calculator. The comparison is for the first four budget years (Oct-Sept) of each President.

The average Dow gain per year: Reagan, 11.81%; Obama, 11.72%

The average Unemployment Rate: Reagan, 8.58%; Obama, 8.69%

The average jobs (thousands) created per year: Reagan, 1638; Obama, 1645

Poverty Rate (3 years only): Reagan, from 14% - 14.4%; Obama, from 14.3% - 15%

By these measures, both Presidents are remarkably similar.

But then there is GDP, debt, and spending. Combining GDP relative to debt is the most common measure for these two.

Average yearly debt to GDP increase: Reagan: 7.83%; Obama, 4.84%

Average Federal government spending increase using Total Expenditure data from BEA:
Reagan: 8.89%; Obama 1.02%

Subtracting inflation: Reagan: 4.21%; Obama, -1.08%

When you compare apples and oranges there are similarities in general - they are fruit and they grow on trees - but upon closer examination they are quite different.

 

[HRiscool]

http://www.youngcons.com/awesome-in...ears-to-reagans-the-difference-is-astounding/

Some good graphs and info on the two presidents through the first six years in office. Take from it what you will.

I think one guy saw America as a shining city on a hill and the other guy saw it as bunch of bitter clingers holding guns, money and racism close to their heart.

I think if you were raised in the USA you would definitely agree with Obama - but if you had spent all your life living almost anywhere else on the planet, you would agree with Reagan.

 

[whatsup12579er]

The things that jump out to me from the OP's link at the household income numbers, labor force and people on food stamps. I think it explains the general ideals of Rs and Ds. Ds want to take care of the populous whereas the Rs want them to take care of themselves.

 

[HRiscool]

The things that jump out to me from the OP's link at the household income numbers, labor force and people on food stamps. I think it explains the general ideals of Rs and Ds. Ds want to take care of the populous whereas the Rs want them to take care of themselves.

^^^^ This is the fundamental point.

If I am my brother's keeper - will I eventually morph into my brothers jailer?

To me the answer is yes. But to my liberal and religious friends, the answer is no.

Charity makes all of us feel good when we give it. I know I do when I give. But when I was younger and I was the recipient of charity I noticed something about myself. I preferred charity over work. I became dependent and I liked it. What I didn't like was that the charitable tended to attach conditions to their largesse. Luckily for me, I eventually got so sick of their conditions I figured out a way to escape them. Provide for myself. I also discovered something else. There's a lot of smiles and fulfillment that come with providing for yourself. I became physically healthier. I became more attractive to the opposite sex (and the same sex, that was for you natural). I became more curious and alive. It seemed like ambition coupled with hard work only had good things for me. I saw this paradigm repeated often among my friends, family and acquaintances. To this day I kick myself, why did I have to learn the hard way when my father and grandfather did such a good job of showing me the end result of hard work and education? The only answer I can come up with; it was a character flaw that only I could correct.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I think one guy saw America as a shining city on a hill and the other guy saw it as bunch of bitter clingers holding guns, money and racism close to their heart.

I think if you were raised in the USA you would definitely agree with Obama - but if you had spent all your life living almost anywhere else on the planet, you would agree with Reagan.

That's a pretty insightful post.