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Recruiting for next season…..

bammhawk1

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So, now that we are down to the last day of the season tomorrow, who would be possible transfers to fill our holes in the lineup?
 
biggest needs are 141 and 157.

nobody really sticks out as good options for 141 unless a 133 moves up. romney is a huge 133 so maybe him. nagao maybe? blaze at 157 would be great. heck just get both of them and fill 141/157.

i could also see maybe a 125 who could move up to 133 when drake graduates. volk maybe?

lastly it wouldn’t be a transfer thread if mr. fast twitch wasn’t mentioned.
 
So, now that we are down to the last day of the season tomorrow, who would be possible transfers to fill our holes in the lineup?
I'd look at Swiderski for 141/149. And I kind of hate to say it, but considering he behaved himself all year and obviously Angelo seems to be having a good experience, AJ makes sense as a 1 year bridge to Luddington at 197.

Potential lineup, if guys can handle the cuts at 157-174:

125 Deluca
133 Ayala
141 Swiderski
149 Estrada/Block/Rathjen
157 Caliendo
165 PK
174 Arnold
184 Ferrari
197 Ferrari
285 Kueter

You never know who's gonna enter the portal, but based on what we know now, those look like the best options.
 
biggest needs are 141 and 157.

nobody really sticks out as good options for 141 unless a 133 moves up. romney is a huge 133 so maybe him. nagao maybe? blaze at 157 would be great. heck just get both of them and fill 141/157.

i could also see maybe a 125 who could move up to 133 when drake graduates. volk maybe?

lastly it wouldn’t be a transfer thread if mr. fast twitch wasn’t mentioned.
Flipping the Blaze brothers would be a major coup. I'd be pretty shocked though. I like the Volk idea. Nice bridge to Deluca. It's been a while since we've seen Deluca against elite comp due to injury, so it's hard to know how ready he is right now.

I'd hate to see it happen, but maybe Bailey from LR. I think he's a huge 133 and had a down year. If he wants a payday, maybe he leaves, but I'd hate to take guys from LR.
 
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Flipping the Blaze brothers would be a major coup. I'd be pretty shocked though. I like the Volk idea. Nice bridge to Deluca. It's been a while since we've seen Deluca against elite comp due to injury, so it's hard to know how ready he is right now.

I'd hate to see it happen, but maybe Bailey from LR. I think he's a huge 133 and had a down year. If he wants a payday, maybe he leaves, but I'd hate to take guys from LR.
We would have to have written assurances of Baileys eligibility prior to pursuing. Maybe their coach could document something for us.
 
I'd look at Swiderski for 141/149. And I kind of hate to say it, but considering he behaved himself all year and obviously Angelo seems to be having a good experience, AJ makes sense as a 1 year bridge to Luddington at 197.

Potential lineup, if guys can handle the cuts at 157-174:

125 Deluca
133 Ayala
141 Swiderski
149 Estrada/Block/Rathjen
157 Caliendo
165 PK
174 Arnold
184 Ferrari
197 Ferrari
285 Kueter

You never know who's gonna enter the portal, but based on what we know now, those look like the best options.
I’m surprised to see you floating the Caliendo to 157 idea. Seems unrealistic. If he somehow made it down, I think his performance would suffer.
 
It would be awesome if a thread, like this was pinned at the top of the board.
But you wouldn’t get to see the same Ferrari fights! Did you know he’s arrogant and not a Hawkeye personality? Also without him we can’t compete?
 
I'd look at Swiderski for 141/149. And I kind of hate to say it, but considering he behaved himself all year and obviously Angelo seems to be having a good experience, AJ makes sense as a 1 year bridge to Luddington at 197.

Potential lineup, if guys can handle the cuts at 157-174:

125 Deluca
133 Ayala
141 Swiderski
149 Estrada/Block/Rathjen
157 Caliendo
165 PK
174 Arnold
184 Ferrari
197 Ferrari
285 Kueter

You never know who's gonna enter the portal, but based on what we know now, those look like the best options.
AJ supposedly has 2 more years of eligibility.
 
We have several good young guys to battle it out at 149 until Bo gets here. Caliendo certifies at 157 but to get there and be healthy all year could be a different thing. Lets see how tonight goes before we decide if he should make the cut or not. If he does it absolutely gives us a chance at our best lineup. Both Voinovich's, Block, Estrada and Rathjen will battle it out for 149. Caliendo 157, Kennedy 165, Arnold 174, Ferrari 184, Elam/Ludington 197, Kueter Hwt. Pick up a stud transfer for 1 year at 125 so DeLuca can redshirt, Ayala 133 and another transfer at 141. Hope the Raneys join Bo and we are on the right path.
 
He is a freshman correct? I wish he was in our room.
No soph. He wrestled franek a bunch last year. He's boring and fortunate to make the finals imo. Maybe he will prove me wrong his last two years, but I don't expect another finals from him. I would love him in the room if it would bring his brother. Otherwise would have to pass if my choice.
 
We have several good young guys to battle it out at 149 until Bo gets here. Caliendo certifies at 157 but to get there and be healthy all year could be a different thing. Lets see how tonight goes before we decide if he should make the cut or not. If he does it absolutely gives us a chance at our best lineup. Both Voinovich's, Block, Estrada and Rathjen will battle it out for 149. Caliendo 157, Kennedy 165, Arnold 174, Ferrari 184, Elam/Ludington 197, Kueter Hwt. Pick up a stud transfer for 1 year at 125 so DeLuca can redshirt, Ayala 133 and another transfer at 141. Hope the Raneys join Bo and we are on the right path.

Yes, definitely take a returning NCAA finalist and 5th year senior and make him cut weight to a weight he hasn’t wrestled at for 7 years. That is a recipe for success if I have ever heard one.
 
biggest needs are 141 and 157.

nobody really sticks out as good options for 141 unless a 133 moves up. romney is a huge 133 so maybe him. nagao maybe? blaze at 157 would be great. heck just get both of them and fill 141/157.

i could also see maybe a 125 who could move up to 133 when drake graduates. volk maybe?

lastly it wouldn’t be a transfer thread if mr. fast twitch wasn’t mentioned.
AJ is a very good chance of happening.
 
We have several good young guys to battle it out at 149 until Bo gets here. Caliendo certifies at 157 but to get there and be healthy all year could be a different thing. Lets see how tonight goes before we decide if he should make the cut or not. If he does it absolutely gives us a chance at our best lineup. Both Voinovich's, Block, Estrada and Rathjen will battle it out for 149. Caliendo 157, Kennedy 165, Arnold 174, Ferrari 184, Elam/Ludington 197, Kueter Hwt. Pick up a stud transfer for 1 year at 125 so DeLuca can redshirt, Ayala 133 and another transfer at 141. Hope the Raneys join Bo and we are on the right path.
Lots of names being thrown around for filling some weights next year, but will they all even be on the roster? Unless there is some way to work around the new roster limit, the limit of 30 wrestlers for 25-26 season is gonna require cuts to the roster. Seems like NCAA has their head up their a$$ and doesn't understand how that roster limit will impact wrestling. For example, if we bring in 6 freshmen that redshirt, that leaves 24 roster spots to fill 10 weights. In ideal weight distribution, that puts us 3 deep at 4 weights and 2 deep at 6 weights. So we can't afford to be 4 deep at 149 for example. Injuries could impact filling all the weights for duals next season so we could see an increase in forfeits. Anyone have any info how teams like Iowa that generally have about 40 on their roster are gonna deal with the new roster limit?
 
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Yes, definitely take a returning NCAA finalist and 5th year senior and make him cut weight to a weight he hasn’t wrestled at for 7 years. That is a recipe for success if I have ever heard one.
All you do is run your big, stupid mouth anytime anyone suggests something. Bigger cuts happen every single year. If he gets worked tonight he just might WANT to make the cut.
 
Lots of names being thrown around for filling some weights next year, but will they all even be on the roster? Unless there is some way to work around the new roster limit, the limit of 30 wrestlers for 25-26 season is gonna require cuts to the roster. Seems like NCAA has their head up their a$$ and doesn't understand how that roster limit will impact wrestling. For example, if we bring in 6 freshmen that redshirt, that leaves 24 roster spots to fill 10 weights. In ideal weight distribution, that puts us 3 deep at 4 weights and 2 deep at 6 weights. So we can't afford to be 4 deep at 149 for example. Injuries could impact filling all the weights for duals next season so we could see an increase in forfeits. Anyone have any info how teams like Iowa that generally have about 40 on their roster are gonna deal with the new roster limit?
Time to stop allowing guys that weren't multiple time state champs to fill roster spots.
 
All you do is run your big, stupid mouth anytime anyone suggests something. Bigger cuts happen every single year. If he gets worked tonight he just might WANT to make the cut.

Nuance isn't @SPOONER s strong suit, but he's absolutely right here. Caliendo and PK will be top 2 ranked at 65/74 to start the season next year. Makes no sense to mess with that by cutting down.
 
You guys have no idea what’s in the works, but I think everyone will be pretty happy come the start of next season
Figs, Cardenas, and Ferrari are my guesses. Pure speculation. Ferrari definitely auditioning this week. He's been on his best behavior. I'd question if Figs is still a good play after what we saw this weekend. Seemed like he lacked effort and desire.
 
I’m surprised to see you floating the Caliendo to 157 idea. Seems unrealistic. If he somehow made it down, I think his performance would suffer.

counterpoint it worked out ok for Nebraska this year. I don’t think it happens but caliendo moving down to 157 for one year to get away from the rat on a Cheeto would provide some extra motivation.
 
Caliendo to 157, Kennedy to 165, Gabe to 174. Every single one of them could make the cut and they all certified at those weights.
They may have certified it, doesn’t mean they can make it and wrestle with any sort of consistency nor up to their potential. Kennedy and Caliendo both come at you hard and push the pace of their matches. You take the extra energy from cutting away from them and they aren’t the same wrestlers. The answer isn’t always just to cut.
 
let’s not forget it’s 2 hour weigh ins now. and being middle weights they get almost a whole hour extra in duals with starting at 125. One of the Nebraska coaches talked about that being a consideration and it makes a lot of sense.
 
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I realize I am posting from my gigantically high horse, and if my team had the wealth and support that yours does, I can’t say I wouldn’t be doing the same thing, but I really miss when recruiting only meant talking to kids that weren’t already committed to another program.

Gavin Drexler became Obe Blancs first AA at NDSU last night, and after celebrating my next thought was “crap, he’ll probably be somewhere else next year”. Programs like that can’t last like that. They’re much closer to getting chopped than I ever thought they’d be.
 
counterpoint it worked out ok for Nebraska this year.

Did it actually net more points? Never know for sure, but I think it was pretty much a wash. The shift of Pinto/Allred down and McDanel in got a 7th, an 8th and a rd 12. Is that any better than what Wilson 74, Pinto 84, Allred 97 would have done?

That aside, h/t to Nebraska. They showed up this weekend. Impressive performance.
 
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