I know. I said so in post #13.
You're a kook. Direct me to this evidence. The Afghanis asked for it and it WAS NOT presented BECAUSE it did not exist. But, you have it?
Fair point, but a significantly different scale from the outright invasion and occupation of Iraq.
Come on, Man. It was Clinton/ Gore who killed over 500,000 women and children in Iraq in the 90's that led up to our invasion. General Wesley Clark told the story on Democracy Now with Amy Goodman that he was told 11 days after 9/11 that we were going to take down 7 countries in 5 years. The plans were drawn up years prior.
Another fair point. But you are talking about sanctions and no-fly zones. Bad, but an order of magnitude different. And although I disagreed with those policies, they were sanctioned by the UN. The Iraq invasion went well beyond the UN-approved actions, which were centered on inspections.
These are pretty clearly reasons why we didn't leave when we completed the original mission. But not really the point in this conversation.
So the luggage left at the airport found that day was fabricated. I'm sure you have a book written by a whack job exploring that.
Well that's disappointing.
To be clear, I have called Bush, Cheney, Powell and the whole admin. war criminals. Completely unforgivable and you can throw the lying media scum in with them. They should all be tried at The Hague.
WTF are you talking about? Are you taking the position that we are not involved in enough wars?
Making a case from available intelligence is not making it up. EVERYBODY knows what all the intel agencies thought. Blaming Bush for going war is fine, but come on
Yeah, pretty much all - except for Cheney's shadow intelligence boys - were skeptical. That's why Cheney had to gin up his own intelligence team.
Do you accept the premise that the Russian govt is trying to interfere with our elections?
Every capable government, including ours, meddles in other countries affairs, including elections. That is not the issue, the issue is whether Donald Trump or Joe Biden are soliciting or willingly colluding with foreign agents to change election results. I've yet to see evidence for that.
No, actually that isn't the issue. So we have step one. Do you agree that they are interfering with the ideas that Trump better serves their purposes? They are "supporting" his re-election?
Ahhh...so you don't think the US interferes in an election to try and tip the scales for a particular favored candidate?
Of course the US does, the CIA is the most prevalent meddlers in international affairs maybe in history. Trump, however, is reaming Russia 6 ways from Sunday on multiple fronts. Increased defense spending by Nato members, US oil exports cramping their own exports, Isolating Iran and defusing Syria. They hate him, but they'll sow dissention and misinformation, like facebook memes, and you guys will eat that shit up.
Ohhh...so YOU think they would prefer Biden and are, in fact, supporting him? You don't think that Russia loves the fracturing of the NATO alliance that has occurred under Trump? Or are you going to contend that it's not happening?
Let me talk to my supervisor. I'll get back with you in a few days. Communications difficulties and all that jazz.
No...you don't get to run and hide again. You already ducked your stupidity when you banned both public AND private scientific research. Answer the question.
Naive? No.
Multiple fallacies? Maybe you can list a "few"?
He wouldn't have. The guy was a Vietnam war protestor (also a vet) for crying out loud. He understood and understands quagmires.
Russia would be foolish to not desire the destruction of the NATO. Every decent human should thirst for this. It's a rabidly xenophobic organization in search of an enemy. They threaten civilization. It was set up to defend western Europe from the Soviet Union. Ummm...it does not exist anymore. They lost half their population and a 1/3 of their territory. Their government collapsed twice in a hundred years. The threat to peace is NATO. The West broke the agreement promising that NATO would not move one inch to the East should Gorby allow German reunification. Since then, the NATO has swallowed up 13 former Warsaw Pact members in violation.
You've posted many times since this. What's the problem? You ran away after you idiotically banned both privately and publicly funded scientific research. It appears you're trying to run and hide again. People are going to start thinking you're not as intellectually advanced as you claim.
JFC...you don't even know what a Gish gallop is. What I'm doing is the exact opposite of a Gish gallop, moran. A single question requiring a simple, straightforward response.
