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Republicans call for unity but won’t attest Biden won fairly

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Fricken' assholes. Apparently that' what it takes to be part of the GOP these days



The call for unity came from one of President Trump’s most loyal supporters in Congress, nearly a week after a pro-Trump mob rampaged the U.S. Capitol in a riot that left five people dead.
“What happened at the Capitol on January 6 was as wrong as wrong can be,” Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) told colleagues during a virtual committee meeting about Democrats’ demands that Trump be removed from office. Now was the time for “healing,” and in Jordan’s opinion, that meant allowing the president to finish out his term.

The committee chairman, Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.), pressed him on one point. Hadn’t Jordan and more than 140 other Republicans given oxygen to the false conspiracy theory pushed by Trump that motivated the Capitol rioters — that the election had somehow been stolen — when they had voted to object to certifying the electoral college results?
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“We all want healing. But in order to get to healing, we need truth, and we need accountability,” McGovern said. “So my question for you is: Will you admit that Joe Biden won fair and square, and the election was not rigged or stolen?”
McGovern’s question was met with 17 seconds of silence before Jordan said Biden would indeed be inaugurated president — a clear dodge of the question about the nature of Biden’s victory.
Election results under attack: Here are the facts
As Biden prepares to be sworn into office surrounded by more than 20,000 National Guard troops protecting the inauguration from one of the gravest domestic terrorism threats in U.S. history, Democrats and other Trump critics are pushing Republicans to renounce the party’s embrace of the falsehood that inspired the Capitol attack and is motivating many of the Trump supporters vowing to take up arms again.
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So far, the efforts have been largely fruitless. Even as much of corporate America threatens to withhold donations from lawmakers who objected to the election results, and social media companies cancel accounts — including Trump’s — spreading the false conspiracy theories, the bulk of elected Republicans continue to follow Trump’s lead in refusing to acknowledge that Biden’s win was legitimate and fair.

“Donald Trump incited the violent part of his base to harm people because he made them believe the Big Lie, that he won by a landslide,” Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.), a House impeachment manager, tweeted Saturday. “All Trump has to do to prevent further political violence is say one sentence: ‘the election was not stolen.’ ”
But so far, Trump and his allies have refused to do that. In their comments about the election, congressional Republicans have hedged, equivocated and accused Democrats of being divisive — even as they continue to promote a falsehood linked to ongoing violence.
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“I really do believe that you pushing [impeachment] is going to further divide our country, further the unrest and possibly incite more violence,” Rep. Debbie Lesko (R-Ariz.), who voted against certifying the election results, said on Tuesday. “Please, let’s just move on and heal the country.”
In an appearance on Fox News on Sunday, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) spoke of unspecified “irregularities” in mail-in voting and blasted impeachment as divisive. Graham also briefly suggested House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was to blame for the Capitol breach — “It’s her job to provide Capitol security. We’ll get to the bottom of that," he said — prompting a swift rebuke from Pelosi’s office.
"He need only look in the mirror if he wants to start pointing a finger,” Pelosi’s deputy chief of staff Drew Hammill tweeted, citing Graham’s repeated suggestions there was fraud in the election. Graham ultimately voted in favor of certifying the electoral college results on Jan. 6.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), one of the most outspoken supporters of Trump’s fraud claims, issued a joint statement with a half-dozen other GOP senators on Jan. 2 alleging “unprecedented allegations of voter fraud, violations and lax enforcement of election law, and other voting irregularities.” On Jan. 6, hours after an insurrection forced lawmakers to flee, Cruz voted against certifying the results — then argued it was time for unity the following day.
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“We must stand side-by-side as Americans,” Cruz said, even as he continued to defend his objection as “the right thing to do” and called for an electoral commission, implying there was wrongdoing in the 2020 election. Cruz’s office confirmed Sunday that the senator plans to attend Biden’s inauguration.
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), another Trump ally, has acknowledged Biden’s victory but also couched his statement with a proposal for a commission, lending credence to the false notion that there was election fraud that needs to be investigated.
The allegation of widespread election fraud has been debunked over and over again. Trump’s lawyers have lost or had tossed out dozens of court cases challenging the results of the election. Dozens of state and local election officials from both parties have affirmed the integrity of their voting processes.
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Attorney General William P. Barr said there was no evidence of widespread fraud. (He has since stepped down.) And on Friday, the Justice Department ended its investigation of the Pennsylvania election — more specifically, into nine ballots found thrown away in the state — saying there was “insufficient evidence to prove criminal intent on the part of the person who discarded the ballots.”
‘Trump said to do so’: Accounts of rioters who say the president spurred them to rush the Capitol could be pivotal testimony
Still, some Trump allies have shifted their message on voter fraud after pressure from outside forces. Dominion Voting Systems, whose voting machines have been at the center of some of the wildest election-related conspiracy theories, has filed several lawsuits against Trump’s lawyers and right-wing media outlets.
When threatened with legal action, a number of Trump’s media allies have apologized for perpetuating the president’s false claims of voter fraud. The conservative magazine American Thinker issued an unprecedented statement of contrition on Friday retracting several pieces that had falsely accused the company of conspiring to steal the election from Trump. Thomas Lifson, the magazine’s editor and publisher, acknowledged those pieces had relied on “discredited sources who have peddled debunked theories” that had “no basis in fact.”
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“So my question for you is: Will you admit that Joe Biden won fair and square, and the election was not rigged or stolen?”
This should be the first thing asked whenever a member of the repub party tries to talk to a dem. Whether it is in the halls of Congress, on the floor of Congress or out on the street. If there is no reply then no dialogue. None.
 
This should be the first thing asked whenever a member of the repub party tries to talk to a dem. Whether it is in the halls of Congress, on the floor of Congress or out on the street. If there is no reply then no dialogue. None.

No kidding. If Republicans continue to spread Trumpian lies, there is really no common ground to be reached.
 
In a broken system used this year, the dems won the Presidency. Pretty simple. Now let's ensure that we avoid being in the same situation where so many questionable votes were allowed to be cast and so many votes counted after election day.
 
This should be the first thing asked whenever a member of the repub party tries to talk to a dem. Whether it is in the halls of Congress, on the floor of Congress or out on the street. If there is no reply then no dialogue. None.
Shut em out.

Deny them anything, and I do mean anything, that is not spelled out specially in the Constitution or written rules. No niceties, no historical precedence, nothing.

In committees, sub-committees, on the floor, anywhere.

And take care of the 10 Rep’s that voted to accept certified EV’s with anything they ask for, right in front of the ones who didn’t. And when they take to the press to whine, put out a statement saying why.

Don’t let the country forget who they are and what they did.

We can’t heal until we remove the source of our ails.
 
In a broken system used this year, the dems won the Presidency. Pretty simple. Now let's ensure that we avoid being in the same situation where so many questionable votes were allowed to be cast and so many votes counted after election day.
You should put /s at the end of posts like this to indicate sarcasm.
 
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The call for unity came from one of President Trump’s most loyal supporters in Congress, nearly a week after a pro-Trump mob rampaged the U.S. Capitol in a riot that left five people dead.
“What happened at the Capitol on January 6 was as wrong as wrong can be,” Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) told colleagues during a virtual committee meeting about Democrats’ demands that Trump be removed from office. Now was the time for “healing,” and in Jordan’s opinion, that meant allowing the president to finish out his term.

The committee chairman, Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Mass.), pressed him on one point. Hadn’t Jordan and more than 140 other Republicans given oxygen to the false conspiracy theory pushed by Trump that motivated the Capitol rioters — that the election had somehow been stolen — when they had voted to object to certifying the electoral college results?
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“We all want healing. But in order to get to healing, we need truth, and we need accountability,” McGovern said. “So my question for you is: Will you admit that Joe Biden won fair and square, and the election was not rigged or stolen?”
McGovern’s question was met with 17 seconds of silence before Jordan said Biden would indeed be inaugurated president — a clear dodge of the question about the nature of Biden’s victory.
Election results under attack: Here are the facts
As Biden prepares to be sworn into office surrounded by more than 20,000 National Guard troops protecting the inauguration from one of the gravest domestic terrorism threats in U.S. history, Democrats and other Trump critics are pushing Republicans to renounce the party’s embrace of the falsehood that inspired the Capitol attack and is motivating many of the Trump supporters vowing to take up arms again.
AD


So far, the efforts have been largely fruitless. Even as much of corporate America threatens to withhold donations from lawmakers who objected to the election results, and social media companies cancel accounts — including Trump’s — spreading the false conspiracy theories, the bulk of elected Republicans continue to follow Trump’s lead in refusing to acknowledge that Biden’s win was legitimate and fair.

“Donald Trump incited the violent part of his base to harm people because he made them believe the Big Lie, that he won by a landslide,” Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.), a House impeachment manager, tweeted Saturday. “All Trump has to do to prevent further political violence is say one sentence: ‘the election was not stolen.’ ”
But so far, Trump and his allies have refused to do that. In their comments about the election, congressional Republicans have hedged, equivocated and accused Democrats of being divisive — even as they continue to promote a falsehood linked to ongoing violence.
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“I really do believe that you pushing [impeachment] is going to further divide our country, further the unrest and possibly incite more violence,” Rep. Debbie Lesko (R-Ariz.), who voted against certifying the election results, said on Tuesday. “Please, let’s just move on and heal the country.”
In an appearance on Fox News on Sunday, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) spoke of unspecified “irregularities” in mail-in voting and blasted impeachment as divisive. Graham also briefly suggested House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was to blame for the Capitol breach — “It’s her job to provide Capitol security. We’ll get to the bottom of that," he said — prompting a swift rebuke from Pelosi’s office.
"He need only look in the mirror if he wants to start pointing a finger,” Pelosi’s deputy chief of staff Drew Hammill tweeted, citing Graham’s repeated suggestions there was fraud in the election. Graham ultimately voted in favor of certifying the electoral college results on Jan. 6.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), one of the most outspoken supporters of Trump’s fraud claims, issued a joint statement with a half-dozen other GOP senators on Jan. 2 alleging “unprecedented allegations of voter fraud, violations and lax enforcement of election law, and other voting irregularities.” On Jan. 6, hours after an insurrection forced lawmakers to flee, Cruz voted against certifying the results — then argued it was time for unity the following day.
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“We must stand side-by-side as Americans,” Cruz said, even as he continued to defend his objection as “the right thing to do” and called for an electoral commission, implying there was wrongdoing in the 2020 election. Cruz’s office confirmed Sunday that the senator plans to attend Biden’s inauguration.
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), another Trump ally, has acknowledged Biden’s victory but also couched his statement with a proposal for a commission, lending credence to the false notion that there was election fraud that needs to be investigated.
The allegation of widespread election fraud has been debunked over and over again. Trump’s lawyers have lost or had tossed out dozens of court cases challenging the results of the election. Dozens of state and local election officials from both parties have affirmed the integrity of their voting processes.
AD


Attorney General William P. Barr said there was no evidence of widespread fraud. (He has since stepped down.) And on Friday, the Justice Department ended its investigation of the Pennsylvania election — more specifically, into nine ballots found thrown away in the state — saying there was “insufficient evidence to prove criminal intent on the part of the person who discarded the ballots.”
‘Trump said to do so’: Accounts of rioters who say the president spurred them to rush the Capitol could be pivotal testimony
Still, some Trump allies have shifted their message on voter fraud after pressure from outside forces. Dominion Voting Systems, whose voting machines have been at the center of some of the wildest election-related conspiracy theories, has filed several lawsuits against Trump’s lawyers and right-wing media outlets.
When threatened with legal action, a number of Trump’s media allies have apologized for perpetuating the president’s false claims of voter fraud. The conservative magazine American Thinker issued an unprecedented statement of contrition on Friday retracting several pieces that had falsely accused the company of conspiring to steal the election from Trump. Thomas Lifson, the magazine’s editor and publisher, acknowledged those pieces had relied on “discredited sources who have peddled debunked theories” that had “no basis in fact.”
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That's because the majority of Republicans are cowards who are still afraid of Trump.

GOP=Grab Our Pussies
 
In a broken system used this year, the dems won the Presidency. Pretty simple. Now let's ensure that we avoid being in the same situation where so many questionable votes were allowed to be cast and so many votes counted after election day.

Oh, good. I wasn't sure what to think until one of our esteemed HROT Mensa members weighed in. As always, brilliant take.
 
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