Responsible Gun Owner 1 Bad Guys 0
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My point obviously escapes some of you. It's rather nuanced, while some of you prefer the Chief Wiggums approach to gun usage where you can use one to change channels by shooting at the tv, or crack walnuts with the butt of a gun. This country is awash in guns and horrible people who possess guns.
Tit-for-tat posts about someone who successfully use a gun to defend themselves are immediately countered with posts where an innocent person loses their life to a gun. Some of us feel it is unacceptable to lose so many people to gun violence and just write them off as the cost of doing business. There are reasonable controls that can be enacted to lessen the number of Americans who die every year from gun violence, and they won't affect the ability of law abiding people to own guns. But, the gun industry, the politicians they own, and the wild eyed panic they both inspire will not accept even the most common sense restrictions.
Tit-for-tat posts about someone who successfully use a gun to defend themselves are immediately countered with posts where an innocent person loses their life to a gun. Some of us feel it is unacceptable to lose so many people to gun violence and just write them off as the cost of doing business. There are reasonable controls that can be enacted to lessen the number of Americans who die every year from gun violence, and they won't affect the ability of law abiding people to own guns. But, the gun industry, the politicians they own, and the wild eyed panic they both inspire will not accept even the most common sense restrictions.
I don't think it's reasonable to require my doctor to report me to an FBI database. That will be a disincentive for people who need help to seek it.
I don't think it's reasonable to label someone who sold one or two guns a "gun dealer."
I certainly don't think it's reasonable to demand that I run a background check if I want to sell my used shotgun to a neighbor.
So, where are the "common sense" restrictions you're talking about?
Here is a nice article detailing just how much guns cost all of us. Some of you will have to be careful if you bother to read it. There are facts and unpleasant realities in it. Not the slogans and platitudes you prefer.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/04/true-cost-of-gun-violence-in-america
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/04/true-cost-of-gun-violence-in-america
Actually, as a gun owner I wouldn't mind any of that. There should be mechanisms to restrict the ability of the mentally ill to obtain guns and kill people. If doctors are part of that system I'm okay with that. There is no reason there cannot be a national data base where gun sales are registered and a background check performed through the local sheriff, a state agency, or a national agency. If you are law abiding there is no reason to fear following the law. If I sell a car I have to go to the county administration building and do a little paperwork and maybe even pay some taxes. No big deal if you are just a one or two guns a year dealer.
But you also prefer that countless young minority folks get killed in urban areas rather than taking reasonable police measures like stop and frisk, which has been proven effective, and held to be constitutional. You would also prefer that law abiding citizens be denied the ability to protect themselves and their families, just to maintain adherence to your liberal ideology.
You don't have to do anything but sign the title to sell a car! The buyer has to go down and pay fees and taxes and whatnot to change over the title and registration.
And if you and your neighbor are out in the boonies, you both have to drive into town and talk to the sheriff before you can sell your neighbor your shotgun? That's ridiculous.
Mandatory registration just means that the government knows what doors to knock on when it's time to take the guns away.
I'm not answering "yes" or "no" to loaded questions.
If an "underground market" means you don't have to register your guns, then yes, I'm for that. But I don't call that an "underground market," I call it a "free market."
And he should NEVER have a gun. Without a gun, there would have been no incident.
