I don't know what that award may be but it might put a bite into this transfer portal.
Reward kids for honoring their commitment
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You could increase their stipend for every year at the same school. When I was a student at Iowa several years ago, I think the stipend was $800 cash each semester. I'm sure it's more now, but you could give student athletes $2000 their first year at the school, $4000 their second, $6000 their third, and $8000 their fourth. If you transfer you start over at the bottom at your new school. It also might appease some of the "paying the athletes" crowd.
How about reserving NIL opportunities for students in at least their second or third years at a school.
Great idea. Another one - Can only get a reduced percent of scholarship if you transfer. This idea is pretty flawed though. Wouldn't want to punish kids like Nunge for transferring. Also, Ivy kids can't play if they're in grad school.
Great idea. How about an automatic 5th year of eligibility and free grad school?
Remember when just doing the honorable thing was enough?
I love the stipend idea. It's fair and rewards players for staying on. Jess Settles would have made some serious cash with this idea, lol
I remember when keeping your word was it's own reward. Times have changed.
Izzo was a coach that did that. He used to recruit kids that he knew would never get off his bench just to keep them away from schools where they would actually play. Yes, Tiny Tom is a DB.
Currently scholarship offers are four separate years vs one 4 year.
If all schools offer four 1/2 scholarships or a four year full ride scholarship, students can choose. Students cant leave and play at another NCAA school until 4th year per contract. If students want to submit a breach of contract by the school to a board, the NCAA can terminate a student contract and they are free to enter the portal.
If all schools offer four 1/2 scholarships or a four year full ride scholarship, students can choose. Students cant leave and play at another NCAA school until 4th year per contract. If students want to submit a breach of contract by the school to a board, the NCAA can terminate a student contract and they are free to enter the portal.
Does any thinking person believe that change has been only for the better?
I wouldn't call Rebraca transferring to Iowa unhonorable but you're free to have your opinion.
Thanks for allowing me to have my opinion, LeBron
.No, I was commenting on the need to have incentives/rewards for guys who stay at a school for the entire time (which I really wasn't commenting directly on that particular idea, per se). It was more a comment on society in general, and how less and less people are taking responsibility for their words/actions, and commitments. It used to be "I gave my word and signed a 'contract' to go to school here and play for this team and I will do what I said I would do because my word has value". Now it's "I had a good year and can now go play for that other team who didn't want me before but does now, so I'm going to leave", or "there are guys who are better than me and rather than try to get better and beat them out, I'm going to go somewhere where I am the better guy without the extra work". Certainly there are cases where things change or situations arise that the player really needs to change things--Jack Nunge is a fabulous case in that--but I'd guess 96% of the transfers are one of the two reasons I stated.
And it's certainly not isolated to sports, not isolated to the players (coaches obviously do it every year), or isolated to any other demographic.
Not sure if you are talking to me or not, but I'm not suggesting "punishing" anyone. Not sure where you're getting that, again IF you're talking to me.
I am sure you are accurate on this, but really any criticism slung at this irritating mob boss of a coach, I would have liked and agreed with. I dislike him sooooo much! There, I feel better...... Okay, Back to work now for me....😉
By historical standards transferring would have been considered dishonorable. Its still not a good thing since it promotes immediate self gratification over perseverance and legitimizes breaking one's word to others, a word on which they relied in making other decisions so, as with that little shit bag Fredrick, it isn't net neutral to the team from which one transfers. Its the ethic of selfishness that is being taught now. These are still students and learning about more than basketball and Rhetoric 101, they are learning about life. The NCAA is supposed to be preparing these kids for life, and every kid playing NCAA sports is doing so voluntarily. So imposing some consequence to encourage better behavior rather than an invitation to engage in worse behavior in tomorrow's leaders seems like the obvious course of action so naturally the NCAA will do the opposite.
But, unless and until the transfer rules change there can be no unilateral disarmament and Iowa and anyone else that needs players should take transfers.
But, unless and until the transfer rules change there can be no unilateral disarmament and Iowa and anyone else that needs players should take transfers.
Transferring does rob a player of a long-term relationship with a school and its fan base (future money-making opportunities in that state). Once the NBA and NCAA decided student athletes had to have at least one year of college before going pro, I thought that they violated the historical agreement between students and schools on commitment. With schools and coaches taking advantage of the one-and-done rule at the expense of students, I've felt all bets are off when it comes to student commitments to schools. That's not the only factor, but almost all of the changes by the NCAA have most benefitted schools, coaches, TV networks with NCAA deals, advertisers, and the NCAA itself.
With all of that how can anyone blame 18 to 23 year old students for looking out for themselves? The powers that be violated the spirit of teamwork and sportsmanship when they decided collegiate athletics were more about making money and winning than any other principle.
The students are finally catching up to the way the game of NCAA sports is being played at the institutional level. It's not fair for fans to back the NCAA and schools at the students' expense, but fans of college sports are loyal to the institutions rather than the players. That's why I don't listen to fans on this issue; they have biases that are not in the students' best interests. They don't think of them as humans with their own set of life goals. No, to college sports fans players are extensions of the university rather than human beings with long-term life interests that diverge from the short-term "use up and spit out" model of NCAA sports.
Do coaches typically get rewarded for staying or leaving? And if they do get rewarded for staying does it happen without threat of leaving by leveraging another offer?
The athletes are basically employees. Why shouldn't they have the opportunity to work wherever they like? This is America, right?
The athletes are basically employees. Why shouldn't they have the opportunity to work wherever they like? This is America, right?
I don't dispute this fact, and don't like the coaches contracts being basically worthless as well.
"We're hiring you for 6 years, and expect you to be here for 6 years. But we understand that if things go well, you can leave and we'll get a bunch of money from the place that wants you precisely because things went well."
"I'm committed to coach here for 6 years and will do my best to win here. But if things go well and a better place comes calling, that 6 year agreement I signed will turn in to toilet paper because they'll give you a ton of money to make up for the fact that I didn't honor the contract I signed."
"I'm going to come to the University of Wherever and bust my butt to bring as many championships as possible during the coarse of my career and get my degree. But if someone else shows up and is better than me, and I therefore don't get to play as much as I want, I'm going to get out of here faster than you can blink. Same goes if I do really well and the University of Bigname decides they want me afterall."
I don't love the transfer portal but kids have been getting screwed over by coaches leaving for years. The guy at Drake before Devries coached 1 year, and then left for Colorado State and then basically took most of his recruits from Drake and took them to Colorado State. He left Drake w/3 scholarship players. A lot of kids whether we like it or not come for a coach /assistant coach that recruited them. If that coach or assistant leaves things change. There is a lot of good to "toughing things out." However, we don't know the circumstances in all of these cases. Kids playing for 3-4 schools is ridiculous. I do like the grad transfer rule. Do your work, graduate and you have earned the right to go. See a case like Ellingson. Or Ribraca.
Are we going to reward every student who stays at their school? Or just the athletes? Because there is no difference in why kids transfer between those two. A regular student might transfer because they realize they don't like or can't work with the profs in their major area, an athlete might transfer because they don't like or can't play for their coach.
How is that different and why do we look at athletes differently?
FTR, I'm in no way in favor of incentivising staying.
How is that different and why do we look at athletes differently?
FTR, I'm in no way in favor of incentivising staying.
