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SC Cop drags student across the floor in class room

Unfortunately this has not been the image you have portrayed. I guarantee you would have a different attitude if you spent time being a cop in the inner city.
If you feel that way you may be surprised to learn that a large number of police officers and former police officers have spoken out against the militarization of the police over the last few years.
 
If you feel that way you may be surprised to learn that a large number of police officers and former police officers have spoken out against the militarization of the police over the last few years.
No one has brought up the militarization of the police but you and sleib.
If you want to talk about the militarization of police then you might want to think of the conditions they serve under that makes them Feel like any encounter they have might end up in a struggle for their life. Those conditions wear on you mentally.
By the way none of that has anything to do with this thread.
 
I am saying that past experiences from an officer can influence how they react in a situation. As he grabbed her, she hit him. It is right on the video. Whether you justify the actions of the officer or not, she hit him as he grabbed her. There were probably many things that could have taken place to prevent this, but an officer shouldn't have to endure physical punishment by a person he is trying to remove.
Please tell me you aren't serious with this crap. Even if you think she tried to hit him, while he was choking her, you cannot claim with a straight face that she made contact or was in any danger of actually hurting him.
 
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It has been my experience that people who resort to violence as a first reaction lack the mental capacity to use the thinking process to assess a situation of conflict. Its not their fault, its the genes their parents gave them. Does law enforcement test for mental capacity on situations of problem solving when hiring prospects or do background checks to see if they tortured animals as a small child?

;);)

Only...that's not what happened in this case. But other than missing that key point...cool thought.
 
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No one has brought up the militarization of the police but you and sleib.
If you want to talk about the militarization of police then you might want to think of the conditions they serve under that makes them Feel like any encounter they have might end up in a struggle for their life. Those conditions wear on you mentally.
By the way none of that has anything to do with this thread.

It absolutely has something to do with this thread, for two reasons.

One, because some people chose to latch on to my usage of "pig" or "piggie" for LEOs, and took exception to that, so I have to explain how I feel about LEOs.

Two, because most of us grew up in a time when police were police, and actually did police work. We had an exceptional resource officer at my high school, Cliff Cauhgron. He dealt with some absolutely crazy crap, fairly frequently. And there's no way he would have acted in the manner that this LEO did. Because, he was good police. Which is more and more rare these days. Which is part of the reason why you see stuff like this (kids most certainly are rowdier and more dangerous today, too).
 
No one has brought up the militarization of the police but you and sleib.

And good on them. If you dress them like army men they will start to behave the part, and the citizens will be their enemy combatants. Surplus war materials would have been better suited in a scrap yard.
 
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No one has brought up the militarization of the police but you and sleib.
If you want to talk about the militarization of police then you might want to think of the conditions they serve under that makes them Feel like any encounter they have might end up in a struggle for their life. Those conditions wear on you mentally.
By the way none of that has anything to do with this thread.
So, you're saying the conditions around you, and the way others treat you, have a heavy influence on your behavior?

Awesome, shall we explore this subject a little further, and how it may relate to this case? I can think of a variety of angles that might prove productive...
 
No one has brought up the militarization of the police but you and sleib.
If you want to talk about the militarization of police then you might want to think of the conditions they serve under that makes them Feel like any encounter they have might end up in a struggle for their life. Those conditions wear on you mentally.
By the way none of that has anything to do with this thread.
Oh please. Cops do not have a particularly hard job, nor a dangerous one. Farmers and fishermen work ten times harder and face a ton more danger.
 
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So, you're saying the conditions around you, and the way others treat you, have a heavy influence on your behavior?

Awesome, shall we explore this subject a little further, and how it may relate to this case? I can think of a variety of angles that might prove productive...
That's right think about what you said for a second.
 
Black teen attacked by school cop has multiple injuries — and is an orphan who recently lost her mother


A fun exercise would be to go back through this thread and count the number of assumptions about the character of the kid that have been made in this thread, about how she'll be a criminal, on welfare, etc. Cross-reference those posters to see if they are the same ones questioning why race plays any role in this affair. As if they'd make those same assumptions about a pretty blond girl from Naperville that refused to give up her phone, and be just as supportive of a grown man beating her up over it and injuring her over it.

If it were a pretty blond from Naperville I would assume
she's a spoiled, entitled little brat who could benefit from a dose of reality.

This girl? I think she was behaving like a shathead. Don't know enough to draw more conclusions.
 
LOL...Admin comes in. Dismisses the class to another room. Pulls a desk to face the student. Says, "You may now sit here as long as you wish. Your parent/guardian has been called and is on the way. When he/she gets here, we'll talk about how long your suspension will last."

Now you can come up with a thousand reasons why that wouldn't work and I can shoot every one of them down. That's how it's done correctly.

Oh...btw...no video on the news.

Let's remember that were many other students in the class, who I assume at least some of them were interested in learning that day. If my child comes home from school one day and tells me about one student disrupting the whole class due to sheer stubbornness and/or lack of respect for the teacher/rules/etc...I ask myself what is the wrong with the teacher/principal/etc that they cannot manage a classroom.

The purpose of school is to teach ALL of the students...not preserve the rights of one, or few, malcontent(s). I am sure that 3 or 4 of the posters on this thread cannot grasp this...but, if you let her "win" in front of other students given all that went on leading up to the upset...you can be assured that others will copy her in the future, further eroding classroom decorum and respect for authority. I suspect that few will duplicate her insubordination in the future with the idea that they "could be next" to be drug out of class. And that's OK by me.

Note: from the video...I do think the SRO probably could have physically removed her without tipping her over and potentially injuring her...but she was warned many times prior to that and sometimes hard heads need to learn the hard way. I completely support removing her by force, provided she had been given multiple chances to get up on her own, etc, BUT...I think his specific technique was a little excessive. Then again...it's hard to be 100% sure by that video, since she was resisting his efforts to remove her.
 
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And many choose to act up, also. Should we arrest/beat all of them?

Would you defend anything? Is it even possible to go too far in punishing kids in your eyes? After all, if they'd only listened...
These questions are too stupid to answer.
 
LOL...Admin comes in. Dismisses the class to another room. Pulls a desk to face the student. Says, "You may now sit here as long as you wish. Your parent/guardian has been called and is on the way. When he/she gets here, we'll talk about how long your suspension will last."

Now you can come up with a thousand reasons why that wouldn't work and I can shoot every one of them down. That's how it's done correctly.

Oh...btw...no video on the news.

Spot on. The administration failed here.

Then, the officer failed when he used excessive force.

1. Idiot disrespectful girl
2. Idiotic administration at school
3. Idiotic cop on a power trip
4. Idiotic parents that raised the b

Bunch of idiots all the way around.
 
Let's remember that were many other students in the class, who I assume at least some of them were interested in learning that day. If my child comes home from school one day and tells me about one student disrupting the whole class due to sheer stubbornness and/or lack of respect for the teacher/rules/etc...I ask myself what is the wrong with the teacher/principal/etc that they cannot manage a classroom.

Holy, Shyte.

THE CLASS WAS DISRUPTED. Did you somehow MISS THAT? How much learning do you think occurred during and after that little kerfuffle? What story do you think the children in that class went home and told their parents? Oh wait...they didn't need to tell any story...they were on the damn NEWS!

And that class will continue to be disrupted for as long as this stays in the news. Are you seriously this dense? This could have all been handled with absolutely no fuss and very little disruption and there would have been zero repercussions the next day. The entire episode would have been forgotten instantly. Instead, you're here cheering for an outcome that was FAR MORE DISRUPTIVE. This student wasn't "managed". What happened was the exact opposite of "managed".
 
We, as a society, have allowed our conditions to get to this point.

And we as a society have allowed children to act like little a**holes and not have any consequences of acting as such. This is what happens when you hand out participation trophies or don't keep score at a childs little league game so you don't hurt any feelings.
 
There was no disruption to the class until the police showed up.The teacher explained to the class later that he'd asked her to take out her gum, they didn't even no why she was in trouble.


was this over gum? the link in the OP indicated that it was about a cell phone
 
was this over gum? the link in the OP indicated that it was about a cell phone

If it was over gum it was totally justified.

And we as a society have allowed children to act like little a**holes and not have any consequences of acting as such.

You certainly don't fix the what you believe to be the issue by having one Sheriff over escalate to the point of getting fired.

This is what happens when you hand out participation trophies or don't keep score at a childs little league game so you don't hurt any feelings.

This meme is getting old. I could probably gather statistics to support participation trophies with the crime rate dropping. I am not saying that participation trophies have lowered crime, but I don't think you have any merit either.

Eh screw it.

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You certainly don't fix the what you believe to be the issue by having one Sheriff over escalate to the point of getting fired.

I haven't gotten through this thread yet, but would love to hear how you would fix this problem of a child who refuses to comply with a teacher and other school officials.
 
lol, thanks for affirming my opinion.

I'm not saying the world isn't violent, I'm saying that's because people commit violence when ample other solutions are available. You don't sound bright enough to see that, or decent enough to care.

so, what are these magical solutions that would get a kid who has likely never dealt with consequences to comply with a simple order?
 
Spot on. The administration failed here.

Then, the officer failed when he used excessive force.

1. Idiot disrespectful girl
2. Idiotic administration at school
3. Idiotic cop on a power trip
4. Idiotic parents that raised the b

Bunch of idiots all the way around.

My only slight quibble is with the characterization of the cop. He should have known better but they are trained to handle non-compliant individuals with overwhelming force for their own safety. That's exactly what he did and exactly why you don't put SRO's in the mix in situations like this.
 
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So if it was happening in a meeting, your superiors would halt the meeting to address it, over and over, to the detriment of everyone's time in the meeting?

Because I understand the urge to do so, but sometimes you have to realize that your ego is less important than getting things done. And, at that point, you are the distraction.

At that point the person should no longer be gainfully employed, so you may as well call security and have them removed from the facility.

What kind of Zoos have you worked at?
 
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I've heard both were involved.

The horror!

Think about it for a minute. That sword cuts both ways. Yes, this defiant "child" was so worked up over being told she couldn't have gum and a mobile phone during class. Both of which are well-known rules.

Yes, indeed, the horror.
 
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Black teen attacked by school cop has multiple injuries — and is an orphan who recently lost her mother


A fun exercise would be to go back through this thread and count the number of assumptions about the character of the kid that have been made in this thread, about how she'll be a criminal, on welfare, etc.

Kinda like all of the assumptions you made about Dorian Johnson's testimony and Darrell Wison's character?

Remember how you were wrong?

Remember how you were racist?
 
To me it's two separate issues here.

O A kid having a cell phone isn't illegal and shouldn't be a situation a cop needs to be involved with.

i don't think the cop was sent in because of the cell phone. The cop was sent in because she wouldn't leave when repeatedly asked to do so.
 
Kinda like all of the assumptions you made about Dorian Johnson's testimony and Darrell Wison's character?

Remember how you were wrong?

Remember how you were racist?
You're making that up, I've addressed it already.
Remember that time you beat your wife?
 
Ya know, you guys have changed my mind.

I think the cops modus operandi in this situation should be implemented at the kindergarten level. You throw those little 5 year old bastards around and they will fall in line like a beat dog. This will help alleviate issues like the cop in this situation faced with teenagers as they will know at an early age that they are to ALWAYS SUBMIT TO AUTHORITY...
 
Ya know, you guys have changed my mind.

I think the cops modus operandi in this situation should be implemented at the kindergarten level. You throw those little 5 year old bastards around and they will fall in line like a beat dog. This will help alleviate issues like the cop in this situation faced with teenagers as they will know at an early age that they are to ALWAYS SUBMIT TO AUTHORITY...

You're an anarchist.

...and the_devil.
 
Ya know, you guys have changed my mind.

I think the cops modus operandi in this situation should be implemented at the kindergarten level. You throw those little 5 year old bastards around and they will fall in line like a beat dog. This will help alleviate issues like the cop in this situation faced with teenagers as they will know at an early age that they are to ALWAYS SUBMIT TO AUTHORITY...
Seeing as what was being asked of her was REASONABLE she should have submitted.
 
You're an anarchist.

...and the_devil.
Nah, far from it actually.
I just believe that the government that we need and must have to keep our country great has swung the pendulum too far in the direction of taking away our rights and freedom. Whether it be local, state or federal we have in the last 2 decades lost a tremendous amount of personal liberty. Having said that it does conflict with my some what socialist views on government overall. Basically I am confused and conflicted:D
 
Seeing as what was being asked of her was REASONABLE she should have submitted.
Yes she should have.
No disagreement here, but how many young kids act reasonable or even know the meaning of the word?
I have no problem with the kid being punished, just the way thje punishment was enacted.

At what age would the sro's behavior not be acceptable? 12?...10?...8?...6?
 
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