Scott Walker and Republicans have lost their way
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Is this where I post something about JFK being for lower taxes and asking Democrats to get back to their roots?
Teddy, Lincoln, Eisenhower are all better represented by today's D party. Rs run from their history while Ds correct theirs.
Originally posted by naturalmwa:
BHO lowered taxes several times. I dare Rs to endorce JFK policies or even Ike's.
Scott Walker has been protecting us from the bad guys he bragged about at CPAC meeting.
This post was edited on 2/26 6:37 PM by wildcatdad
Do you refuse to use Google because you think its a liberal plot? I swear if you were a little more curious, you might find you're really a liberal too. BHO signed off on a tax cut at part of the stimulus package in 2009 and a payroll tax cut in 2011 among others.
No, it sounds/looks like Walker/Republicans/the people/voters have found their way. Answer this question. Why is Walker so popular? Why is he supported by so many citizens?Originally posted by wildcatdad:
Get back to Republican Roots
Of course Republicans are for unions......but not unions that are out of control with their wages, political/monetary support of Democrats only, too heavy into the partison politics. Back in Teddy's day the unions needed support and they got it from Republican, but now not as much because unions become too powerful...too one party.......too expensive for our economy......too greedy....... and the people are tired of their bullying behavior. Their own behavior has gotten them in trouble, so don't blame Republicans.
This post was edited on 2/26 9:28 PM by sijoint
Originally posted by naturalmwa:
I'm hoping it's because they don't know him very well yet. He's one messianic little Nepolian.
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Waaaaaaa The voters know him quite well it seems....they keep voting for him.
It's Napoleon
This post was edited on 2/26 10:24 PM by sijoint
I got nothing, I'm just going to blame spell check auto correct. It's my only refuge.Originally posted by sijoint:
This post was edited on 2/26 10:24 PM by sijointOriginally posted by naturalmwa:
I'm hoping it's because they don't know him very well yet. He's one messianic little Nepolian.
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Waaaaaaa The voters know him quite well it seems....they keep voting for him.
It's Napoleon
Originally posted by naturalmwa:
I got nothing, I'm just going to blame spell check auto correct. It's my only refuge.Originally posted by sijoint:
Originally posted by naturalmwa:
I'm hoping it's because they don't know him very well yet. He's one messianic little Nepolian.
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Waaaaaaa The voters know him quite well it seems....they keep voting for him.
It's Napoleon
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If you have the opportunity......please return the favor! I like your attitude.
This post was edited on 2/26 11:03 PM by sijoint
Again you are totally wrong. The POTUS's you listed would certainly be centrist republicans but they would still be well with in the ranks of Republican thought. However your party has moved so very far to the left it would be unrecognizably to Dems of 50 years ago.
If Teddy saw what unions look like today, he'd probably have a change of heart. A lot has changed since he said that.
Either you are dense or not serious. Obamacare included $500B in increased taxes over ten years. Someone is paying that bill-whether you will be a giver or a taker in this process I don't know or care. But it was a huge tax increase on individuals and businesses (and by definition then, their former employees and/or customers).
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Not how I see it. IMO, both parties have been marching towards the right since 1980 on most substantive issues of public policy with the exception of a few key social issues.
The three I listed were for government regulation and wealth redistribution. I wish that represented the heart of the R party today.
This post was edited on 2/27 1:35 PM by naturalmwa
He is clearly running. He is a formidable speaker, but catch him without prep and he seems to stumble with answers.
He clearly seems to be getting traction. Now he'll have to take shots from his fellow Republicans. It's easy to stand up and bash President Obama and Hillary Clinton. Taking shots from the backside is hard.
JOHN NICHOLS: I'm afraid it's not the first time that [Walker] has suggested that striking down these protests back in 2011, and continuing to try to prevent protests in the capital, trying to force protesters out, has somehow prepared him to deal with the world. And the tragedy of this is so profound on so many levels. First off, he is overestimating his own skills. Second, he is underestimating the challenges and the complexity of the threats from around the world.
But most of all, he is deeply, deeply mischaracterizing those who rose up to challenge and question his policies. These were school teachers and snow plow drivers and nurses and parents of children with autism and other challenges, seniors who were concerned about their care. This was not just a union protest in Wisconsin; it was an anti-austerity protest. And it was incredibly diverse, incredibly-and I will use the word-beautiful. You were there, Amy.
And I think to try and suggest that disrespecting peaceful protest, that literally went out of its way to stop at stoplights, you know, to let people cross, it's so wrong. And I think it raises profound questions. You know, you can get angry about all this, but I think it raises profound questions about whether Governor Walker really begins to understand what he's talking about as regards global threats, but also begins to understand how a president should look at the people he would serve.
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But most of all, he is deeply, deeply mischaracterizing those who rose up to challenge and question his policies. These were school teachers and snow plow drivers and nurses and parents of children with autism and other challenges, seniors who were concerned about their care. This was not just a union protest in Wisconsin; it was an anti-austerity protest. And it was incredibly diverse, incredibly-and I will use the word-beautiful. You were there, Amy.
And I think to try and suggest that disrespecting peaceful protest, that literally went out of its way to stop at stoplights, you know, to let people cross, it's so wrong. And I think it raises profound questions. You know, you can get angry about all this, but I think it raises profound questions about whether Governor Walker really begins to understand what he's talking about as regards global threats, but also begins to understand how a president should look at the people he would serve.
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That's old thinking. Move into the future which holds NO unions. This idea of having unions nowadays is just like how the Constitution is so old and should be revised. Move along, unions are no longer needed.Originally posted by wildcatdad:
Get back to Republican Roots
You don't know history. Look up who has started a LARGE majority of wars since WW1. Obama has continued the wars but with drones.
Democrats are the party of war. History bears those facts.
Ever hear of NASA? Ever hear of Interstate Highways? In affect h\these were both "jobs programs". JFK cut taxes when the maximum rate was 90+%, not 37%. Kennedy nor Obama invented "capital gains tax rate" to ensure the wealthy stay wealthy at everyone else's expense.
Are you serious Clark?? NASA and Interstate highways were jobs programs? Hilarious! And by the way, it is in effect, not in affect
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Very naive. IMCC obviously has had a bad experience with his union but to say they aren't needed is completely ridiculous.
Bunch of sad-sacks that are miserable and complain about EVERYTHING work-related. The "us vs. them" mentality is pathetic and sad.
Oh I forgot that Hawaii vacation I went on paid for by that huge and temporary tax cut. Taken from Social Security. This POTUS is a huge failure as was expected. By any clear minded person.Originally posted by naturalmwa:
Do you refuse to use Google because you think its a liberal plot? I swear if you were a little more curious, you might find you're really a liberal too. BHO signed off on a tax cut at part of the stimulus package in 2009 and a payroll tax cut in 2011 among others.
You are conflating two very different animals. Public employee unions and private unions. I and most con are for unions in private business. Like FDR, however, we do not think public employees should be unionized. I am glad I could clear that misunderstanding up for youOriginally posted by wildcatdad:
Get back to Republican Roots
WW1...started by a Democrat.......WW2....started by a democrat.....Korea....started by a Democrat....Vietnam....Started by a Democrat....Please do not say a Republican sent in advisers...they did but really the war was started by a democrat. Certainly we have started a few but you charge, as I have proven, is way off. But I am sure that will not stop you in the future from bringing it up
The other President Roosevelt had it right on this issue:
All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management.
All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management.
We have not lost our way. Unsurprisingly you have a very bad grip on history. Teddy was talking here about unions in private business not the public sector. I and most Republicans no have no issue with private sector unions ( except as to the biased NLRB setting rules that clearly put private business in an unfair position) Republicans agree with Theodore`s cousin -FDR- that public unions are a very bad ideaGet back to Republican Roots
