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Self driving cars

No, it isn’t. They still haven’t figured out how to make the car decide who to kill in an unavoidable accident. Until that happens, there won’t be any driverless cars commercially available anytime soon.
 
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When we have low-cost driverless cabs, then it will take off. And individual car ownership will start to decline. I mean why bother to have a car if you can call a cheap cab with an app, not have to talk and not have to tip.

Somebody will do this.
 
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Hyundai Genesis steers, accelerates, brakes on its own...but only for 20 seconds. I do believe in the next 10 to 15 years it'll be the real deal (I haven't yet read the article).
 
With automakers and technology companies rushing to develop self-driving cars, the Obama administration on Thursday pledged to expedite regulatory guidelines for autonomous vehicles and invest in research to help bring them to market.

Until now, the federal government has taken a hands-off approach to regulating new technology that allows vehicles to operate independently and without an actual driver.

But in an announcement here at the North American International Auto Show, Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx said the government would remove hurdles to developing autonomous vehicles and set further guidelines for them within six months.

“We are bullish on autonomous vehicles,” Mr. Foxx said. “The actions we are taking today bring us up to speed.”


The government’s new support includes a request in President Obama’s proposed budget for the next fiscal year for $4 billion, to be spent over 10 years, to finance research projects and infrastructure improvements tied to driverless cars. Mr. Foxx said that autonomous vehicles had the potential to reduce traffic accidents and significantly improve safety on America’s roads. He estimated that as many as 25,000 deaths could have been avoided last year if driverless technology had been in widespread use.

“We are entering a new world here, and we know it,” he said.

At the announcement, Mr. Foxx was flanked by executives of several carmakers and tech companies, including Google, which has been testing its autonomous vehicles on California roads since last year.

The executives welcomed the government’s proposed investment and its fast-track approach to developing a framework for regulating driverless models.

“It takes real collaboration with our regulators so this is done right and done safely,” said Mark Reuss, head of global product development at General Motors, the nation’s largest auto manufacturer.

Mr. Foxx said the government expected to issue guidance to companies within six months on the functions that autonomous vehicles must be able to perform to be considered safe.

He said the government already had authority to allow limited deployment of 2,500 autonomous vehicles by an individual company for a two-year period.

In addition, he urged companies to seek interpretations of existing federal vehicle standards from regulators for new technologies under development.

He cited one such case, in which regulators recently confirmed that a remote, self-parking system developed by the German automaker BMW met federal standards.

“This is the right way to drive innovation,” said Mr. Foxx, adding that federal regulators were also working with various states to create a consistent national policy for driverless cars.

Several automakers have vowed to have autonomous cars ready for consumers to buy within the next 10 years.

But without guidance from regulators, companies have been uncertain about the legal environment that awaits their new vehicles. “The industry is anxious to have a framework, particularly in terms of safety,” Mr. Reuss said.

Mr. Foxx declined to say whether he expected bipartisan support for the proposed $4 billion driverless-car investment in the president’s budget.


He also said the government needed to address other related issues about the vehicles over the next six months.

“There are liability issues that need to be thought through,” he said. “We’ve got to do several things at once.”

The cooperative stance taken between regulators and carmakers is also extending to other areas involving vehicle safety.

On Friday, the administrator of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration will hold another meeting with auto executives to draft voluntary measures by carmakers to improve safety.

The meeting is expected to complete several new safety measures, such as how companies can increase the number of vehicle owners who take recalled models in for repairs, according to one official briefed on the subject.

Mark R. Rosekind, head of the safety agency, has been working closely with the auto companies on the voluntary measures after a record number of safety recalls over the last two years.

He and Mr. Foxx are expected to announce the safety initiatives in an appearance Friday at the auto show.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/15/b...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
 


Hyundai had to of turned something off for this to happen (says modified on the bottom of the screen), but pretty impressive.
 
No, it isn’t. They still haven’t figured out how to make the car decide who to kill in an unavoidable accident. Until that happens, there won’t be any driverless cars commercially available anytime soon.

If everyone had one, then there wouldn't be any said accidents.
 
If everyone had one, then there wouldn't be any said accidents.
Don't know about that. How would they know who has the right of way on country roads with no stop signs? Or what if some hoodlums cut stole a few signs or if stoplights stopped working for one way or another? Or god forbid, the BLM movement tries to shut down another highway
 
Don't know about that. How would they know who has the right of way on country roads with no stop signs? Or what if some hoodlums cut stole a few signs or if stoplights stopped working for one way or another? Or god forbid, the BLM movement tries to shut down another highway

Pretty sure stop signs and stuff will be based on GPS and mapping technology, not on the car actually "seeing" the stop sign.
 
Pretty sure stop signs and stuff will be based on GPS and mapping technology, not on the car actually "seeing" the stop sign.[/QU

Oh, i'm sure you are right but still don't know how they would figure out gravel roads, ect... that have no stop signs at all. Then again I don't really understand new technology so i probably shouldn't even be responding to this topic
 
Don't know about that. How would they know who has the right of way on country roads with no stop signs? Or what if some hoodlums cut stole a few signs or if stoplights stopped working for one way or another? Or god forbid, the BLM movement tries to shut down another highway
I assume there would be built-in rules in the software covering most situations. But even when there aren't rules for the specific situation, the cars could negotiate.

Imagine, for example, the typical situation where lanes of traffic merge. Most people behave politely and take their turn. A few people bolt down the berm and cut in. Benefiting themselves but producing a rippling inefficiency that affects many. Self-driving cars would presumably all behave politely and would merge efficiently.
 
If everyone had one, then there wouldn't be any said accidents.

But that's not going to happen all at once. It's really a pretty interesting issue.

And what about snow and ice? Or animals? Or hundreds of other hazards? We're a long, long way away from an accidentless world
 
So what happens when the computer in your car gets pissed off about what another car has to say?

It starts spouting off about the other car's cheap ass hubcaps and making fun of it for living in a cheap carport.
 
Just waiting for the first lawsuit against a car company because someone has an accident because of an computer problem.
 
But that's not going to happen all at once. It's really a pretty interesting issue.

And what about snow and ice? Or animals? Or hundreds of other hazards? We're a long, long way away from an accidentless world
I was just pondering the ice and snow issue. In theory, computers could respond better and faster in such situations, and multi-car pile-ups would be less likely. But are we at that point yet?

It would be fun to see some contest on that. You know, MIT vs CalTech. That sort of thing. Or Google vs Amazon. Or GM vs Hyundai.
 
Pretty sure stop signs and stuff will be based on GPS and mapping technology, not on the car actually "seeing" the stop sign.

Plus, if it detects a car coming from the cross road it will not just proceed through the intersection blindly since it has the right of way.
 
I think the cars will eventually be able to talk to each other, too.

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