Shane Sparks explains "slam" call
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Just bizarre. I've seen a lot of back and forth about who was more chippier (to use a word) or more unsportsmanlike (to use another word), with understandably different opinions, since both wrestlers were dishing it out.
But I haven't seen anyone who believes that Waters slammed Gilman, rather than the other way around.
Clear wrong call by the official. Sounds like it should have been this:
5.8.4
Intentional Drill. An intentional drill or forceful fall back is illegal when the defensive wrestler is in a standing position and the offensive wrestler has
a scissor hold or a cross-body ride
But I haven't seen anyone who believes that Waters slammed Gilman, rather than the other way around.
Clear wrong call by the official. Sounds like it should have been this:
5.8.4
Intentional Drill. An intentional drill or forceful fall back is illegal when the defensive wrestler is in a standing position and the offensive wrestler has
a scissor hold or a cross-body ride
After finally seeing the video it was kind of a let down. No big deal. I've fallen harder reaching for the remote control.
However, the G man should have been given a technical violation for the illegal move.
It should have been an immediate stalemate or stall call by Tim the official, and then it would not have occurred.
However, the G man should have been given a technical violation for the illegal move.
It should have been an immediate stalemate or stall call by Tim the official, and then it would not have occurred.
I agree with all of this. Ref should have stalemated it. Ref didn't, and then ref made the wrong call after it happened.
I've seen some folks on other forums try to argue that Gilman should've been DQ'd. I've seen some folks say if he was DQ'd, the he couldn't have wrestled in the Big 10 tourney. That would've been a horrible result.
It was called wrong, but ultimately ended with the correct victor result.
There are many really stupid and uninformed posters out there that will say anything and everything. If they want to comment on what the rules say, they need to first read and know the rules.
This post was edited on 2/23 12:46 PM by texas twister
The ref lost control of that match. Both wrestlers were going at it after the whistle. Point is the ref should be controlling that and he didn't.
I think that Gilman did leave his feet on purpose but if you look closely to the replay, Waters pulls back with force and Gilman leaves his feet at the same time so the referees thought maybe Waters caused them to slam backwards. JMO
I had originally said that, but not for the slam. It was for the double that he took well after the whistle.
That said, at the time, I hadn't seen the forearm to the neck. If I had, I don't think I would have ever said that he should have been DQed.
And if it had been called a flagrant misconduct, you are correct, Gilman's season would have been over. His next event, which he would have been required to sit out, is the Big Ten tournament.
THIS.
Watching it live on TV I honestly thought that Waters pulled forcefully backwards. Going back and rewatching, I see that TG left his feet intentionally. I think they both are at fault for various things.
I think both coaching staffs handled this well though as well as the refs. I don't thing they lost control of the match, both refs were in there separating the wrestlers after TG kept going after Waters for some reason.
Terry was yelling at Sparks to get the cameras out of there and to stop filming him. Sparks informed Terry it wasn't his call, it was the networks.
You really think Sparks is dumb enough to get in a heated exchange with Terry Brands? He is more intelligent than that haha.
You really think Sparks is dumb enough to get in a heated exchange with Terry Brands? He is more intelligent than that haha.
overeasy, I misread the question. Yes, he would have been INeligible for an at-large bid. Thanks for correcting me!
That's what I get for posting from the Cedar Rapids airport while waiting for my flight home, which was delayed for three hours, to finally board!
This post was edited on 2/26 9:35 PM by SetonHallPirate
Oh sure, blame it on your Iowa connection.Originally posted by SetonHallPirate:
overeasy, I misread the question. Yes, he would have been INeligible for an at-large bid. Thanks for correcting me!
That's what I get for posting from the Cedar Rapids airport while waiting for my flight home, which was delayed for three hours, to finally board!
This post was edited on 2/26 9:35 PM by SetonHallPirate
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