I don’t know and don’t want to research it. How often does it happen that elections have been suspended in democratic countries due to war in say…the last 50-60 years of modern warfare?
Should the United States demand Ukraine have an election before any more aid is given?
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From a WP article - "Late last year, Trump, who is the leading contender for the Republican nomination, called on his social network Truth Social for terminating “all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” in a post on his social network Truth Social."
Then add his dictator for a day comment...maybe someday you'll actually pay attention to what the cult leader is saying. Start taking this crap seriously. It's not a joke. None of us find you remotely funny.
War sucks. In a perfect world what do you see as a conclusion? Russian pulls out, apologizes, and promises trillions in reparations and rebuilding help?
Crazy thing is, if Ukraine wins it likely costs the west more money because they will be bankrolling the rebuild.
Really. You don't think Ukraine would receive forgivable and/or zero interest loans. Zero grants? I wonder which countries will receive contracts for this reconstruction? Edit: Are you this naive as to how it works?
If the US did this, the Magats in the House would just add this "crime" to President Biden's list of impeachable offenses.They're supposed to have one in March. But Zelensky declared Marshall law and the elections have been canceled. In other words, "Democracy is dead" in Ukraine. Weird how the Dems are giving full throated support of that while screaming their heads off about "the end of Democracy" here in the USA. Make up your mind Dems. Geesh.
Ukraine's president rules out holding elections next spring and calls for unity in fighting Russia
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has ruled out a presidential vote next spring and is urging his countrymen to avoid political divides, saying the country must concentrate all its resources on fighting Russian aggression.apnews.com
lol
Loans with like 100 year zero interest?
Are you naive enough to think rebuilding Ukraine is akin to financing a new F150 for five years?
Loans are not free. United States loaned the United Kingdom $3.75 billion at about 2% in 1946 to rebuild. They finished paying it off 2006. Ukraine will need a lot more than that and their economy isn’t close to the United Kingdom.
Anybody want their financial institution that has their 401k to make rebuilding investments in Ukraine? Let’s keep it real, a Ukrainian rebuild will cost the United States trillions more.
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Holy shit. Take a look at Iraq. Edit: From what countries will the reconstruction companies come from?
No we didn’t hold a fair election during the Civil War. For some reason 9 states were blocked from voting and only in certain areas were 6 other states allowed to vote. Only in the 18 states were they allowed to vote democratically.
Honestly. Anybody Just post your realistic conclusion on this
Ukraine is going to run out of bodies. I don’t see any country putting boots on the ground.
It’s very easy to just cheer them on but what is the end game?
Ukraine is going to run out of bodies. I don’t see any country putting boots on the ground.
It’s very easy to just cheer them on but what is the end game?
If it's about economics then I am not sure Russia taking over Ukraine and bordering Western European nations is going to cost less than now.
Why is that shocking? During the Revolutionary War about 15% of military age white men fought for the Patriots and about 5% of military age white men fought for the British. That means 80% didn’t suit up for either side.
And during WW2 with war on three front taking, the Greatest Generation had about 14% who actually fought and about 30% who were either in uniform or providing related services like global transport or building war machines.
I would be interested in a podcast from Peter Zeihan. He seems to be a decent source on breaking down international trends and economics. Didn’t find anything recent.
If they won’t fight for their country they have no right expecting any one else to. They also have no right to expect other countries to bankrupt themselves for a cause they are unwilling to fight for.
The privileged flee and the middle class and poor fight. They are more like Americans than ever.
Bankrupt themselves? The US spent $80 billion on Ukraine. The annual US budget is now $6,134 billion or $6.13 trillion. So that’s a tiny bit of the budget to corral our greatest adversary.
Every bit of the Ukrainian aid is borrowed. Kind of convenient you left that out.
What costs less? Arming Ukraine now or Russian bordering Western Europe without support?
Probably should be pressuring them, for sure. But given the Russians propensity for attacking civilians letting them know in advance where many civilians are going to be congregating probably isn't the safest thing to do and wouldn't provide a legitimate election anyway since many people would be too afraid to show up to vote. Or maybe they wouldn't, who knows how being invaded and having your sovereignty threatened could affect people's resolve.
