He does have a point that it could mean trouble in a "Putin" sort of way.Umm. No. You're no lawyer.
He does have a point that it could mean trouble in a "Putin" sort of way.Umm. No. You're no lawyer.
And what would be the crime? Genuinely asking.You don’t just start investigations of reporters or Americans in general without some indication of a crime.
Good grief.
I miss Betty…..
Investigate away, but you are taking away the wrong point on the whole gotdam thing….As I mentioned before, everyone should be investigated including the soul that wasn’t supposed to be part of that chat.
I'm not defending anything.
I am curious as to why the reporter has changed his mind though, given that future attacks could take place.
👍The relevant question from the civilian side would be why this doesn't nauseate EVERYONE? There is literally no doubt that what they did was illegal as hell...DANGEROUS as hell. Who knows where the guy in Moscow was while he was participating in what should have been a highly classified briefing.Like I said to the other person who has the same stance, "I see your perspective." For me, as a retired Intel Analyst, I cringe every time I see the crap get leaked, published, etc. Knowing what the IC does to protect sources, procedures, basically our TTPs, it makes me nauseated.
I sincerely see the civilian side of this though.
Can we?Yes because the threat of an incompetent leader exposing classified info for future missions has now gone down. We can be pretty damn sure the admin will now use better discipline when handling classified intel in the future. That is a net positive for the safety and security of our finest. Full stop.
Let’s not act as if your statement hasn’t happened before. Good grief.You don’t just start investigations of reporters or Americans in general without some indication of a crime.
Good grief.
And what would be the crime? Genuinely asking.
Is it a crime to disclose potentially classified info if you aren’t under any obligation to keep it confidential, and you didn’t do anything to obtain it?
Let’s not act as if your statement hasn’t happened befire. Good grief.
What if the info he shared is sensitive enough to prosecute? They may have baited him.
oh, okI'm not defending anything.
Even if it’s after the fact….Haven't we been through this before in Trump's first term? All Trump has to do is think it is declassified and it becomes declassified.
Why wouldn’t it be true?
Never, ever quote Fox F*cking News to me again….Oh…
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Biden-era guidance encouraged use of Signal app by highly-targeted govt officials: 'Best practice'
A Biden-era Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) best guidance document shows highly-targeted government employees were encouraged to use Signal.www.foxnews.com
LOL...they let him off ANY legal hook by confirming multiple times that there was no classified material shared. None. Goldberg did exactly the correct thing. A responsible reporter, coming into possession of possibly classified intelligence, will contact the administration to make sure there is nothing that might be too sensitive to release. The Atlantic did exactly that. They were assured this meeting did not include classified material. The Atlantic DID withhold the name of an active CIA operative so they did precisely what should have been done. Period. There is nothing to investigate on Goldberg's side. He has Supreme Court precedent on his side. What might Hegseth or Waltz have besides the unwavering, lapdog obsequiousness of the maggot horde?Let’s not act as if your statement hasn’t happened before. Good grief.
What if the info he shared is sensitive enough to prosecute? They may have baited him.
Senior officials at DOD had been explicitly warned to not use commercial apps to exchange ANY important information. This was all about doing things behind a curtain where they could destroy the evidence, and the curtain fell. The question left to ponder is how much business ARE they doing with no record of what happened.
She shouldn’t make it until April…Skunk stripe is just disgusting.
She won't last til 2028.
Hell, she might not make it to 2026.
Trump thought everyone he's surrounded by would follow him lock step? And there might be some staffer with a sense of decency that added JG to reveal the incompetence?So prior wrongs make it right for you to demand an investigation? Good grief indeed.
And if it was a trap, it was the Dumbest sting ever.
You don’t really believe that? If you do, you need to step away from Fox immediately.
Skunk stripe is just disgusting.
She won't last til 2028.
Hell, she might not make it to 2026.
I would think an investigation would be in order regardless of your statement so we have an official account of what happened.So prior wrongs make it right for you to demand an investigation? Good grief indeed.
And if it was a trap, it was the Dumbest sting ever.
You don’t really believe that? If you do, you need to step away from Fox immediately.
Fair point. Then again with this basket of buffoons they will undoubtedly make similar public gaffes in this future.Can we?
Oh...Oh…
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Biden-era guidance encouraged use of Signal app by highly-targeted govt officials: 'Best practice'
A Biden-era Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) best guidance document shows highly-targeted government employees were encouraged to use Signal.www.foxnews.com
Likely bc the administration attacked him, called him a liar & he had receipts. Would you not do the same?I'm not defending anything.
I am curious as to why the reporter has changed his mind though, given that future attacks could take place.
No. I’m saying it’s what’s coming because king dodo bird thinks he ca do what he wants.So you hope he gets Trump justice?
FifyI would think an investigation would be in order regardless of your statement so we have an official account of what happened.INVESTIGATE THE REPORTER it’s all I’m saying. LITERALLY.
It wouldn’t surprise me if they found the info sensitive enough to be shared in the manner the reporter did,
that wasn't a serious question...everyone knows why a person who's being called a liar by the highest levels of government would want to show everyone that they aren't lyingLikely bc the administration attacked him, called him a liar & he had receipts. Would you not do the same?
pretty funny watching people try to defend or minimize this
you know you can just say this is bad, right?
Guess the administration shouldn't have gone in front of COngress and the media and lied about it then, forcing the reporter to clear his name. He offered to share in a SCIF, they declined. They are wholly responsible for any negative outcomes now.As Ferentz_Fan pointed out, even if it's ultimately deemed to be not classified, it's still sensitive.
Sorry...and I get it...but no. Goldberg was extremely circumspect in the original story. This admin then repeatedly attacked him and denied the truth. This might only sway a handful of cultists but absent this, the story dies in the darkness. This HAD to be made public to demonstrate for the record how utterly incompetent these people are. His word against their word accomplishes nothing. Had Goldberg not thrown back the entire curtain, I have zero doubt that they would be back on Signal tomorrow doing the same thing. I would like to wrap his story around a baseball bat, go to Congress, and beat those moral cowards bloody.
Think the folks using a chat app to discuss attack plans should be in more trouble.Not a lawyer but one would think sharing that convo could be trouble
The bus is warmed up and they are just about to push Walz under it, lol:
Trump Rips Waltz As 'So Stupid' As Full Signal Chat Released: Live Updates
Story by Amanda Castro
President Donald Trump is reportedly furious with National Security Adviser Mike Waltz after he mistakenly added Atlantic editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg to a Signal group chat discussing sensitive military plans. Trump was less concerned about the potential security breach and more upset that Waltz had Goldberg's number saved in the first place, sources say.
The Atlantic released the full Signal chat between senior Trump administration officials on Wednesday, exposing how Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth disclosed the exact times of warplane launches via the unclassified messaging app. The information, considered potentially classified, was shared before U.S. pilots were airborne.
What to Know:
Stay with Newsweek for updates.
- Trump called Waltz "so stupid" for the mistake, according to a source cited by Politico.
- The group chat included top officials discussing a planned strike on the Houthis.
- The White House has since downplayed the sensitivity of the leaked information.
- Waltz took responsibility but claimed Goldberg's number was added in error.
- Despite Trump publicly backing Waltz, insiders say his future remains uncertain.
Trump's national security adviser, Mike Waltz, sought to downplay new details that emerged from a Signal group chat about strikes in Yemen. Waltz posted on social media that the information shared in the chat did not include "war plans," emphasizing that there were no specifics about locations or intelligence methods.
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When Laura Loomer is the voice of reason, you know we are well and truly phucked, lol.