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So when the Dept of Education goes away

Kids nowadays don't seem to have to put forth the same amount of effort these days to earn an A. I have a kid who has a 4.0 this far through senior year and has had homework only a handful of times. I used to study/do homework just about every night.
Maybe your kid is showing mastery on tests/quizzes, and if that’s the case, then why do homework?
 
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Who gets to choose the candidates? How will the interviews be conducted before the vote? What is the purpose of electing a school board if all parents are going to make the decisions? Will private school parents receiving vouchers have the same right to vote for their administration?
All great questions. My kids go to a school in a different city from where I live, so I don’t get to vote for the school board, which is pretty broad. At my kids’ current school, the last principal was fired for painting over a mural of our founding fathers, because well of course racism. Unfortunately, that mural was a work of art that was in books and tax payer funds commissioned the artist to paint it. His replacement was his understudy. Parents would love to be part of the process in electing a principal.
 
All great questions. My kids go to a school in a different city from where I live, so I don’t get to vote for the school board, which is pretty broad. At my kids’ current school, the last principal was fired for painting over a mural of our founding fathers, because well of course racism. Unfortunately, that mural was a work of art that was in books and tax payer funds commissioned the artist to paint it. His replacement was his understudy. Parents would love to be part of the process in electing a principal.
If parents aren’t part of the interview team for a principal position, then your district is doing it wrong.
 
All great questions. My kids go to a school in a different city from where I live, so I don’t get to vote for the school board, which is pretty broad. At my kids’ current school, the last principal was fired for painting over a mural of our founding fathers, because well of course racism. Unfortunately, that mural was a work of art that was in books and tax payer funds commissioned the artist to paint it. His replacement was his understudy. Parents would love to be part of the process in electing a principal.
Parents should have involvement and input into selecting administrators, but I can't imagine the logistics of electing a principal. Do only parents get to vote or do all tax payers in the district get a vote? Who is going to monitor and work the polls? How will the votes be counted and by who?
 
If parents aren’t part of the interview team for a principal position, then your district is doing it wrong.
My kids are in HS now, we’ve been in 3 different school districts and we were never involved in any part of the principal selection process. We were on the PTA, my wife was a room mom twice, I was a room Dad. While my kids were in middle school we went through 3 principals in 4 years. But you say CA is doing something wrong with its education system eh? Could be why we’re ranked 37/50 in K-12 education.
 
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With all of those changes, sure will be challenging to oversee that without a Dept. of Ed, or something to it’s equivalent.
However, won’t there now be the equivalent of 50 smaller “Department of Educations” at the state level? There will still be some type of oversight level.
 
I think some of you are missing the point here, the bulk of America just wants kids to get the education to perform at grade level in the basics - reading, writing, math, science. etc. and doesn't want to get caught up in tenure, excuses, union-shielding of underperforming teachers/administrators, etc.
Cool, then fully fund education instead of bombing innocent women and children in Gaza.
 
My kids are in HS now, we’ve been in 3 different school districts and we were never involved in any part of the principal selection process. We were on the PTA, my wife was a room mom twice, I was a room Dad. While my kids were in middle school we went through 3 principals in 4 years. But you say CA is doing something wrong with its education system eh? Could be why we’re ranked 37/50 in K-12 education.
The superintendent is always going to make the final call, so maybe parents don’t have a very loud voice, but I know my superintendents have always taken parent feedback into consideration.
 
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However, won’t there now be the equivalent of 50 smaller “Department of Educations” at the state level? There will still be some type of oversight level.
Potentially, but there will zero consistency from state to state, they’ll be comparing apples to oranges.
 
Potentially, but there will zero consistency from state to state, they’ll be comparing apples to oranges.
Why would consistency be needed from state to state? Those states with the best results, would likely be copied by other states.
 
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Why would consistency be needed from state to state?
Because a bunch of states have repeatedly failed kids with individual needs and there’s a shit ton of federal case law that proves it.
 
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Why would consistency be needed from state to state? Those states with the best results, would likely be copied by other states.
But they wouldn’t be taking the same assessments, they don’t have the same system for merit.
 
Ok, yes, you “can do it”. But it isn’t a good measure of quality.
Then what is a good measure of quality. If your students aren’t improving, how do you prove ‘quality’? Plus, test results aren’t about quality, it’s about improvement and growth.
 
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I only have a few years left, unless bills like the one that got introduced in the House get passed…where people like me lose 40+ years of contributions to Social Security because we have pensions. Then I would have to go longer. Republicans consistently attack the little guy. This would be the second time they took money from my family.
I'm kind of a social security nerd. I have never heard anything being proposed on reducing someone's social security because they have a covered pension. Do you have a link to what just got introduced? Thanks.
 
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Kids nowadays don't seem to have to put forth the same amount of effort these days to earn an A. I have a kid who has a 4.0 this far through senior year and has had homework only a handful of times. I used to study/do homework just about every night.
4.0 in high school? I assume that’s unweighted. I’m sure the AP/IB/dual enrollment courses will eventually require more homework. 😉
 
So what is your answer for lazy teachers who do little to nothing making the same salary and getting the same raises as hard working conscientious ones?
I’m being totally serious here…I don’t work with any lazy teachers. It’s just not possible at elementary level. I know you guys flip me crap but I’m helping with math, LA, reading at various levels and if someone doesn’t need me I just volunteer to help the paras at recess or in the cafeteria.

I’ve worked with a few bad teachers in 26 years, but I swear to you the vast vast majority are right in this fight trying to educate our community’s children. I don’t know what we factually did that created so much disdain for what we do, abby. There are so many ridiculous attacks that are completely false. Teaching kids to be gay. Seriously. Who the hell could do that? I’m in a red district and if I ever talked politically to the kids I would be shown the door. I do not talk politics AT ALL.
 
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I'm kind of a social security nerd. I have never heard anything being proposed on reducing someone's social security because they have a covered pension. Do you have a link to what just got introduced? Thanks.
I apologized earlier for not looking further into it. It was false. Again, my fault.
 
Then what is a good measure of quality. If your students aren’t improving, how do you prove ‘quality’? Plus, test results aren’t about quality, it’s about improvement and growth.
I agree that growth is the measure. I disagree you can tie pay to it when a teacher is in front of a kid for 45 minutes a day with 30 other students. There are 23 hours and 15 minutes that are unaccounted for that we would be determining a teachers pay for.
 
Why would consistency be needed from state to state? Those states with the best results, would likely be copied by other states.
Consistency between states is helpful with our mobile society. Big gaps can be created when a child moves from one state to the other if states don't require mastery of certain skills at certain grade levels. I know Common Core has a bad rap especially with conservatives, but the idea of an common outline for the scope and sequence of "basic skills" is better for students that move from school to school or state to state.
 
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