So, who will we play next?

[El Simbolo]

If we end up the 4, Purdue will be the 5. If we end up the 5, it will be the winner of the 12/13 game. Minnesota is the 13, and the loser of PSU v Illiniois will be the 12. We will play one of those 4 teams next; who do you think it will be?

 

[StormHawk42]

Illinois. Minnesota is in shambles right now. Doubt both Maryland and Purdue win tomorrow.

 

[Nurman]

I think hey both have a great chance to win.

 

[El Simbolo]

Purdue is favored. I can't help but hope that maybe IU won't be focused since they've clinced title no matter outcome; maybe they've been celebrating all week

 

[DavenportHawk8]

IU will not lose at home on Senior Day. They will do everything to send Yogi out a winner at home. Plus Maryland is GOD AWFUL on the road. They can't win on the road.

Purdue will probably win, so it looks like the 5 seed. I think we see the fighter Illini in round 1 and we should win that one!

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

5 seed - Illinois
4 seed - Purdue/Maryland

 

[El Simbolo]

Remove Maryland from my poll, they can't be our next opponent. My bad!

 

[LuteHawk]

We play the winner of the Illinois /Minnesota game.

 

[OskaloosaHawk]

Personally, I hope we get the #5 seed. Probably not going to win the whole tournament anyway, due to the way some other teams are playing. For the team's best interest, I think it would be great to get another win, no matter WHO it's against, just for confidence reasons. Not saying playing Illinois or Minnesota is a gimme, but I would hope it would be a game where we could put a 20 point beat down on someone. Let the team ride that into the quarterfinal game against another NCAA tournament team.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

I don't want to play Purdue for the only reason is, its hard to beat a team 3X in one season. It seems like Iowa in the past has owned a team in the regular season, only to lose to them in the BTT. I would like to see Maryland/Wisky or someone else in the quarters.

I realize we will have to get back Illinois/Minny/PSU possibly. Iowa "should" be able to beat those team, but last year we rode a 6 game win streak into BTT only to lose the 1st round.

 

[Hawked]

I don't want to play Purdue for the only reason is, its hard to beat a team 3X in one season. It seems like Iowa in the past has owned a team in the regular season, only to lose to them in the BTT. I would like to see Maryland/Wisky or someone else in the quarters.

I realize we will have to get back Illinois/Minny/PSU possibly. Iowa "should" be able to beat those team, but last year we rode a 6 game win streak into BTT only to lose the 1st round.

Statistically you beat an opponent the 3rd time after beating them the 2 previous times about 65% of the time.

 

[OC_Hawk]

We play the winner of the Illinois /Minnesota game.

Illinois beats Penn State tomorrow and we play the winner of the Penn State/Minnesota game (aka Penn State).


I'll be cheering hard for Purdue tomorrow. What a swing game for Wisconsin - a win and they're the 3 seed; a loss and they're 6.

 

[cruhawk]

Both Purdy-yoo and Maryland should win tomorrow, which will get Iowa the #4 seed and the double bye.

 

[OC_Hawk]

Both Purdy-yoo and Maryland should win tomorrow, which will get Iowa the #4 seed and the double bye.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting the tie breaker rules, but I think the Indiana / Maryland game is completely irrelevant to Iowa tomorrow. If Purdue wins Iowa is the 4. If Purdue loses Iowa is the 5.

 

[NevadaHawk]

We may have knocked Michigan right off the NCAA bubble and put them in the position of having to win the tourney to make the Dance. No way the wolves win the tourney,

 

[cruhawk]

I hope you're right, and that it is that simple. But I think MD has to win.

 

[DavenportHawk8]

Both Maryland and Purdue have to win for Iowa to get the 4.

If PU & IU win Iowa is the 5 seed w/PU being the 4

If PU & MU win Iowa is the 4 seed w/PU being the 5

If WIsky & MU win Iowa is the 5 seed w/Maryland the 4

If Wisky & IU win Iowa is the 5 seed w/Maryland the 4

So really Iowa needs both PU & MU to win in order to get the 4 seed.

 

[OC_Hawk]

I hope you're right, and that it is that simple. But I think MD has to win.

Crap, you're right...

Maryland win + Wisconsin win = MSU/MD/WI tie for 2nd, Iowa 5th, PU 6th
Maryland win + Purdue win = MSU/MD tie for 2nd, WI/IA/PU tie for 4th >> IA (2-1), PU (2-2), WI (1-2)
Indiana win + Wisconsin win = MSU/WI tie for 2nd, MD/IA tie for 4th (MD H2H over IA), PU 6th
Indiana win + Purdue win = MSU 2nd, MD/WI/PU/IA tie for 3rd >> MD (3-2), WI&IA (2-2), PU (2-3) >>>> vs IN: WI (1-1), IA (0-2)

 

[SotaHawk87]

So there's a scenario where Purdue losing would actually get them a better seed but winning would get them a worse seed?

 

[El Simbolo]

No, if PU loses they're the 6 seed

 

[El Simbolo]

No chance of Wiscy until the final

 

[Impossible Is Nothing]

Crap, you're right...

Maryland win + Wisconsin win = MSU/MD/WI tie for 2nd, Iowa 5th, PU 6th
Maryland win + Purdue win = MSU/MD tie for 2nd, WI/IA/PU tie for 4th >> IA (2-1), PU (2-2), WI (1-2)
Indiana win + Wisconsin win = MSU/WI tie for 2nd, MD/IA tie for 4th (MD H2H over IA), PU 6th
Indiana win + Purdue win = MSU 2nd, MD/WI/PU/IA tie for 3rd >> MD (3-2), WI&IA (2-2), PU (2-3) >>>> vs IN: WI (1-1), IA (0-2)

The final scenario is wrong. This would be the case:

Indiana win + Purdue win = MSU 2nd, MD/WI/PU/IA tie for 3rd >> MD (3-2), IA (2-2), PU (3-3), WI (2-3)

As discussed on other threads, the question becomes how to break the remaining tie between Purdue and Iowa. There are two possibilities:
1) If it reverts to the two-team tiebreaker, Iowa holds the H2H and would be the #4 seed
2) If it continues to the next step of the multi-team tiebreaker (comparative records against teams in descending order), Purdue be the #4:
vs. Indiana: Iowa (0-2), PU (0-1)
vs. MSU: Iowa (2-0), PU (1-0)
vs. MD: Iowa (0-1), PU (1-1)
If, in doing the comparative record tiebreak, we still consider MD/IA/PU/WI to be tied, the group would have to be considered collectively and would not break the tie. It would have to skip down to OSU, where Purdue would still hold the tiebreaker (1-0 against Iowa's 0-1)

So again, the burning question is which of these two options in this scenario is the correct application of the tiebreaker rules.

 

[luvmyhawks]

The final scenario is wrong. This would be the case:

Indiana win + Purdue win = MSU 2nd, MD/WI/PU/IA tie for 3rd >> MD (3-2), IA (2-2), PU (3-3), WI (2-3)

As discussed on other threads, the question becomes how to break the remaining tie between Purdue and Iowa. There are two possibilities:
1) If it reverts to the two-team tiebreaker, Iowa holds the H2H and would be the #4 seed
2) If it continues to the next step of the multi-team tiebreaker (comparative records against teams in descending order), Purdue be the #4:
vs. Indiana: Iowa (0-2), PU (0-1)
vs. MSU: Iowa (2-0), PU (1-0)
vs. MD: Iowa (0-1), PU (1-1)
If, in doing the comparative record tiebreak, we still consider MD/IA/PU/WI to be tied, the group would have to be considered collectively and would not break the tie. It would have to skip down to OSU, where Purdue would still hold the tiebreaker (1-0 against Iowa's 0-1)

So again, the burning question is which of these two options in this scenario is the correct application of the tiebreaker rules.

That is making my head hurt this early on a Sunday.

I hate to pull for Wisconsin, ever. But, should they win, Maryland as the 4 and Iowa as the 5 is a pretty good draw for Iowa.

 

[DenverTurtle]

Maybe I'm misinterpreting the tie breaker rules, but I think the Indiana / Maryland game is completely irrelevant to Iowa tomorrow. If Purdue wins Iowa is the 4. If Purdue loses Iowa is the 5.

This is not right. If Maryland loses they'll have 6 losses just like us. This would leave IU as the #1 seed with just 3 B1G losses. If Wisconsin beats Purdue both they and MSU will have 5 losses making them the 2 and 3 seeds. Then Iowa and Maryland would be tied for 4th with Maryland getting the tie breaker because they beat us head to head. This is why we need BOTH Wisconsin and Indiana to lose today for us to get the 4 seed in the BTT.

 

[StormHawk42]

Dont make it complicated guys. Just use this thing:
http://bball.notnothing.net/big10.php?sport=mbb

 

[DavenportHawk8]

GO Boilers and Terrapins today!

I am guessing only 1 wins and I think its the Boilers. Terrapins are a TERRIBLE road team. They couldn't beat the sisters of the poor on the road.

 

[jasonrann]

I think I would prefer having the 5 to have a shot at another win before facing a tough opponent. I want at least one win no matter where it comes from.

 

[luvmyhawks]

to have a shit at another win.

Jesus. I know it's been rough at times, but geez.

 

[jasonrann]

Jesus. I know it's been rough at times, but geez.

How the hell "shot" gets replaced with "shit" in my phone, I guess I use one word more than the other. Classic.