Yes. One of my bucket list activities is to find Curt Flood's grave and piss on it.
Someone tell me you like the NIL/Portal?
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Yes. One of my bucket list activities is to find Curt Flood's grave and piss on it.
They're cherry picking the system because the system has been cherry picking them for decades. As least that's the way the U.S. Supreme Court views it.
That was injury-related though, and there wasn't the free covid year that apparently EVERYONE is eligible for now...........
I agree that Ott should've gotten the extra year though.
What’s changed for us? The Big Ten since the 70’s (50 years now) has been Michigan and Ohio State. 2022 and nothing has changed. Sounds like we’re still probably getting Proctor. The offensive players we’re losing are leaving because of a historic bad offense. They’re tired of being in a shitshow. They’re not being lured away by NIL money. Now they might get some, they’re not stars. Not sure why we think the sky is falling.
It's funny that people like you think the only way to go is further down the hole if you wanna get back to the top...................
I've been thinking about that, actually. I might do a separate post, but the point is, what changed from 1980-2001 and then from 2002 to 2022?
Ohio State has ruined things for a lot of people, and for future generations. I'll leave it at that.
Totally agree. The sport is being ruined. Everyone forgets these kids ae getting a free education also. The MAC teams will be lucky to retain a kid for a year before he is gone and the quality will be like club football. They will ask themselves why even have a team. You can buy yourself a new team each year.
But aren't we looking to replace our players who are leaving in the portal as well and stealing them from those schools? Or is that different?
The objection is not that the players are getting some money, the objection is that there is no salary cap that will maintain competitive balance. Like having the same 6 teams compete in the CFP all the time? Because there is more of that on the way.
U have to play the hand that is delt for now....doesn't mean it's right or wanted or going to be sustainable.
Yeah pro sports is just great these days...buy a jersey, outdated the next yr...dmb also IMO.
The Haves were already getting the cream. Not sure this changes.
I'll tell you how much I like it after the portal transfer season ends. How's that? 😊
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A non-compete is quite different from earning based on NIL. A lawyer working at a corporate firm is unlikely to be able to make money performing freelance legal services or promoting a competing firm. But if they had a marketable NIL and wanted to promote another business it’s very likely that they would be able to do so, and be compensated for doing so, as long as that promotion does not constitute a conflict of interest either in terms of negatively impacting their ability to practice law at their primary employer (e.g. those promotional services occupying too much time) or in terms of promoting an adjacent industry (e.g. I assume attorneys are unable to promote bail bondsmen, insurance, etc… depending on their area of practice). Side gigs that do not present a conflict of interest are also generally allowed. My employer actually owns a financial products distribution company where many of the individuals distributing said products are doing so as a side gig while they are professionals in another industry (these are generally non-securities licensed folks distributing fairly simple “savings products” as opposed to “investment products”).
So, while I agree they aren’t unique in having restrictions, I can’t think of any other group with restrictions on monetizing their NIL that even approaches those previously placed on college athletes. 99% of the population doesn’t make any NIL money not due to restrictions, but because they do not have a name, image, or likeness that is marketable. I don’t begrudge those with a marketable NIL from monetizing it be they a successful business person, a 100k/year college athlete, a desperately poor college athlete, or any other situation.
That being said, I do think NIL needs to, and will, evolve.
I don’t agree. No one is going to want to throw away money in an NIL deal with the backup qb. With NIL, the backup qb at Alabama, who could start anywhere else in the country, will no longer be the backup qb at Alabama. I’m making up this scenario, I have no clue about the Alabama backup qb situation, but hopefully this hypothetical scenario makes sense.
Without NIL it was only playing time, fan-hood, proximity, campus life, school quality and maybe a few other factors that kept anyone from not accepting that Alabama scholarship offer. Money speaks louder than all of those combined.
NIL needs to evolve, but on balance will be good for competition across a large swath of D1 revenue sports.
The institutions aren’t the ones paying NIL though. They’ll likely get hurt by NIL ultimately. I doubt NIL means more total advertising/promotional dollars, it just means dollars go directly to athletes instead of to the universities. E.g. instead of Coke buying a billboard in the stadium they might put the qb in a Coke commercial. That’s the real reason universities/athletic programs are generally against NIL.
You also have to be 3 years removed from high school to go to the NFL. I don’t begrudge this restriction since it is simply a business/industry determining the rules of engagement for its constituent companies/teams for the benefit of all.
Right. The wealthy old dudes who own the teams* should be able to treat players like chattel and should get to pay them almost nothing for their labor and the damage to their bodies.
Just admit you have an exploitation fetish and go.
*In the case of college football, this would be the millionaire coaches and administrators, the people who make profits off the facilities contracts, the media companies, etc. Everyone BUT the people who play the games was making millions of these players.
That's what the NFL is for. Then take away all fed $$ if u thinks it's a biz. And the players can build their own stadiums with their NIL $$
Letem go from HS..I don't care. That doesn't fk it all up for the kids who r there to play the game as intended.
I'm not speaking against it from an Iowa perspective...we may benefit from time to time...but it's ruining the game overall.
Wellsee...the game is finished if this doesn't get regulated or rid of."Dude, you've got serious control issues."
So, players should have to work for free for 3-5 years (while rich old dudes make millions off them) for the *chance* of being compensated? No.
Also, you just said the NFL sucks because the players get paid, too. So it sounds like you would prefer exploitation from start to finish.
That’s not for the NCAA to decide. The NFL decides the NFL’s rules of engagement.
Why is the way it used to be the way that’s “as intended”? Especially in light of the fact that courts have decided that the way it used to be was discriminatory?
Is this like the "NFL will be bankrupt in 5 years thanks to Colin K" prediction? Stop being so dramatic or just stop watching this sport that you hate so much.
That's a pro sport...no comparison at all....exactly his point. Collegiate fans will leave.
Work for free!!lol. As if they're being forced to play? Jfc.
Not to mention meals, clothes an education, etcetc....oh and the platform to perform on to possibly make $$ in the NF
Maybe the schools should go after part of their NFL salaries since they gave then the resources, stage, and development to get there. How about that??
In order to be half way respectable you have to go out and steal players from the lower level schools. You will need a scorecard like MLB every year. No depth on any team except the elites like Ohio State/Michigan. No team concept.
