From Reddit. Someone asked cops what their feelings were seeing how the situation unfolded Tuesday. Someone posted this:
This department has now created a situation where parents will show up to a future incident armed and not likely to take direction from officers on the scene.
I have to agree. Not like my opinion of cops was sky high before this week, but after seeing their cowardice and indecision on full display, if my toddlers were being shot at, I would be in there at breakneck speed. (Well, what’s left of the 5.1 40 speed with which I prowled the secondary of junior varsity football fields all over the Omaha metro 24 years ago.) Screw waiting for the cops. Even if I can’t rescue my kids like the one lady in Texas, (go read about her if you want to know what actual valor looks like) if I can take some rounds that would otherwise hit my or someone else’s child, I would in a heartbeat. Pretty sure most of us would.
The top comment came from someone claiming to be federal law enforcement:
Federal law enforcement here.
I took a 1-day active shooter training last year. The the theme they kept hammering into us was “Stop the killing, so you can stop the dying.” Meaning, you need to find the shooter as fast as possible to kill or incapacitate him. Nothing else matters before then. They had role players with like fake blood/injury kits on screaming for help and we just stepped around/over them in our way towards the sound of gun fire. Once the shooter is dead, then you sprint back and start evacuating and treating people. Also, you go in alone or grab a couple other responders on your way in. You don’t methodically clear rooms, you don’t “secure” stuff, and you certainly don’t try to do crowd control.
I see a lot of people on reddit say “standard police procedure is (fill in the blank)” and they are usually wrong. However, almost everyone is exactly right on what I’ve seen about active shooter training. And it’s been that way since ****ing columbine! There is no excuse for police leadership in Uvalde to not know this.
Typically I try to not judge people in these scenarios because there so many different factors and challenges that affect your decision making. However in this case (and in Parkland), **** these guys. They should be fired and never work in law enforcement again. A lot of people, some police included, sometimes think that valor is like an everyday thing. It’s definitely not (that’s why we hand out medals for it) but to see officers just stand outside that classroom as children were shot and bleeding to death is awful and unforgivable.
This department has now created a situation where parents will show up to a future incident armed and not likely to take direction from officers on the scene.
I have to agree. Not like my opinion of cops was sky high before this week, but after seeing their cowardice and indecision on full display, if my toddlers were being shot at, I would be in there at breakneck speed. (Well, what’s left of the 5.1 40 speed with which I prowled the secondary of junior varsity football fields all over the Omaha metro 24 years ago.) Screw waiting for the cops. Even if I can’t rescue my kids like the one lady in Texas, (go read about her if you want to know what actual valor looks like) if I can take some rounds that would otherwise hit my or someone else’s child, I would in a heartbeat. Pretty sure most of us would.
The top comment came from someone claiming to be federal law enforcement:
fedman1776 2h |
I took a 1-day active shooter training last year. The the theme they kept hammering into us was “Stop the killing, so you can stop the dying.” Meaning, you need to find the shooter as fast as possible to kill or incapacitate him. Nothing else matters before then. They had role players with like fake blood/injury kits on screaming for help and we just stepped around/over them in our way towards the sound of gun fire. Once the shooter is dead, then you sprint back and start evacuating and treating people. Also, you go in alone or grab a couple other responders on your way in. You don’t methodically clear rooms, you don’t “secure” stuff, and you certainly don’t try to do crowd control.
I see a lot of people on reddit say “standard police procedure is (fill in the blank)” and they are usually wrong. However, almost everyone is exactly right on what I’ve seen about active shooter training. And it’s been that way since ****ing columbine! There is no excuse for police leadership in Uvalde to not know this.
Typically I try to not judge people in these scenarios because there so many different factors and challenges that affect your decision making. However in this case (and in Parkland), **** these guys. They should be fired and never work in law enforcement again. A lot of people, some police included, sometimes think that valor is like an everyday thing. It’s definitely not (that’s why we hand out medals for it) but to see officers just stand outside that classroom as children were shot and bleeding to death is awful and unforgivable.