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Southwest Airlines has just upended its Rapid Rewards frequent flyer program, blindsiding customers with a sweeping devaluation of its points-earning structure—without a single warning.

Effective immediately, the airline has slashed the number of points earned on its lowest fare categories, fundamentally changing the value proposition for many loyal flyers.

In an industry first, Southwest made these dramatic changes overnight, with no advance notice to customers. As first reported by View from the Wing, the airline has cut the points earned on its cheapest fares by as much as 67 percent, while modestly increasing earnings for its most expensive fare class.

The abruptness and severity of the change have left many frequent flyers frustrated, particularly given Southwest’s history of clear communication around past loyalty program adjustments.

Here’s how the new Rapid Rewards earning system breaks down:

  • Wanna Get Away fares: Reduced from 6x points per dollar to 2x points per dollar (-67 percent)
  • Wanna Get Away Plus fares: Reduced from 8x points per dollar to 6x points per dollar (-25 percent)
  • Anytime fares: Unchanged at 10x points per dollar
  • Business Select fares: Increased from 12x points per dollar to 14x points per dollar (+17 percent)
Elite status members will also feel the sting of these changes. A-List members, who receive a 25 percent bonus on points, and A-List Preferred members, who receive a 100 percent bonus, will see their earning potential drastically cut on cheaper fares.

For example, an A-List Preferred member who once earned 12x points per dollar on a Wanna Get Away fare will now earn just 4x points per dollar—a severe devaluation.

To make matters worse, Southwest is not honoring previous points-earning structures for tickets already purchased. This means that travelers who booked flights expecting a certain level of Rapid Rewards earnings will now receive significantly fewer points than they originally planned for.

This retroactive approach is highly unusual in the airline industry, where loyalty program changes typically come with months of advance notice.





Delta is a better product at about the same price anyway. Bye bye, Southwest.
 
The warning signs were there when their financial plans fells flat on their asses the last 15 years. They survived by being innovative. Like buying fuel futures to avoid ups and down of the markets.

What have they done to keep ahead in the last 15 years? The cattle call seats are a huge inconvenience. Yes they don't charge for checked bags but their low fairs are no longer low when each segment now costs double and you have to go through some major out of the way hub just to get anywhere. Like flying from Tampa to Nashville to get to Destin. How is that efficient?
 
The warning signs were there when their financial plans fells flat on their asses the last 15 years. They survived by being innovative. Like buying fuel futures to avoid ups and down of the markets.

What have they done to keep ahead in the last 15 years? The cattle call seats are a huge inconvenience. Yes they don't charge for checked bags but their low fairs are no longer low when each segment now costs double and you have to go through some major out of the way hub just to get anywhere. Like flying from Tampa to Nashville to get to Destin. How is that efficient?

The "sit where ever you want" policy was the best thing about Southwest. I didn't want to be the first onboard... I wanted to be mid-B group and then I can choose who I sit with. Find someone thin and normal-looking and sit down there.

But now they will be like everyone else. You have no idea if the seat you bought is in between two sumo wrestlers until you get to your assigned seat.

Freaking sucks.
 
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I fly SW more than any other airline. Earn points on my Chase SW card and it's been years since I've actually paid out of pocket for a ticket. But this sucks.

Still though, bags fly free. First come first serve seating options at no additional fees, still very competitive.
 
I fly SW more than any other airline. Earn points on my Chase SW card and it's been years since I've actually paid out of pocket for a ticket. But this sucks.

Still though, bags fly free. First come first serve seating options at no additional fees, still very competitive.

Assigned seats are coming with Southwest, and I get two bags for free with Delta. One for being Silver Medallion and another for holding the Skymiles Amex.
 
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The "sit where ever you want" policy was the best thing about Southwest. I didn't want to be the first onboard... I wanted to be mid-B group and then I can choose who I sit with. Find someone thin and normal-looking and sit down there.

But now they will be like everyone else. You have no idea if the seat you bought is in between two sumo wrestlers until you get to your assigned seat.

Freaking sucks.
”Goddamn it!”

— Thin, normal looking guy from boarding group A, five minutes after settling into his seat.
 
Southwest Airlines has just upended its Rapid Rewards frequent flyer program, blindsiding customers with a sweeping devaluation of its points-earning structure—without a single warning.

Effective immediately, the airline has slashed the number of points earned on its lowest fare categories, fundamentally changing the value proposition for many loyal flyers.

In an industry first, Southwest made these dramatic changes overnight, with no advance notice to customers. As first reported by View from the Wing, the airline has cut the points earned on its cheapest fares by as much as 67 percent, while modestly increasing earnings for its most expensive fare class.

The abruptness and severity of the change have left many frequent flyers frustrated, particularly given Southwest’s history of clear communication around past loyalty program adjustments.

Here’s how the new Rapid Rewards earning system breaks down:

  • Wanna Get Away fares: Reduced from 6x points per dollar to 2x points per dollar (-67 percent)
  • Wanna Get Away Plus fares: Reduced from 8x points per dollar to 6x points per dollar (-25 percent)
  • Anytime fares: Unchanged at 10x points per dollar
  • Business Select fares: Increased from 12x points per dollar to 14x points per dollar (+17 percent)
Elite status members will also feel the sting of these changes. A-List members, who receive a 25 percent bonus on points, and A-List Preferred members, who receive a 100 percent bonus, will see their earning potential drastically cut on cheaper fares.

For example, an A-List Preferred member who once earned 12x points per dollar on a Wanna Get Away fare will now earn just 4x points per dollar—a severe devaluation.

To make matters worse, Southwest is not honoring previous points-earning structures for tickets already purchased. This means that travelers who booked flights expecting a certain level of Rapid Rewards earnings will now receive significantly fewer points than they originally planned for.

This retroactive approach is highly unusual in the airline industry, where loyalty program changes typically come with months of advance notice.





Delta is a better product at about the same price anyway. Bye bye, Southwest.
That’s a shame. First world problem.
 
That’s a shame. First world problem.

The problem is the activist investor group threatening a hostile takeover wants them to transform into a premium-fare business model and that is just not going to happen. The legacy carriers are light years ahead of Southwest on that front.
 
The "sit where ever you want" policy was the best thing about Southwest. I didn't want to be the first onboard... I wanted to be mid-B group and then I can choose who I sit with. Find someone thin and normal-looking and sit down there.

But now they will be like everyone else. You have no idea if the seat you bought is in between two sumo wrestlers until you get to your assigned seat.

Freaking sucks.
Yes the people you sit next to love having a walking ash tray next them for the flight.
 
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In a reply to that jackass, I referenced the Elliott situation to him and told him to Google it for more info and then he Googled it and called ME a lazy ass?

That's why he's on ignore.
You avoided the question as you often do. Because you're ignorant.

And a pussy.
 
It doesn't. You're too stupid to realize why.

Carry on, dumbass.
Listen lazy douche.

You made a dumb comment just because you don’t like @The Tradition and and now you’re getting called out on your own bullshit. Trad has already demonstrated he knows more than you on this topic. You picked a stupid fight.

Take the L and move on (but you’re too lazy to even do that aren’t ya)!
 
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Listen lazy douche.

You made a dumb comment just because you don’t like @The Tradition and and now you’re getting called out on your own bullshit. Trad has already demonstrated he knows more than you on this topic. You picked a stupid fight.

Take the L and move on (but you’re too lazy to even do that aren’t ya)!
Lol - you should surrender as well.

One dumb **** defending another dumb ****. This place is entertaining.
 
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