Spencer Lee has shoulder surgery
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Injury and recovery is never fun but you come back stronger and better. Looks like he has the right mind set and is taking the right steps to recovery. Wish him the best. Cant wait to see him back on the mat. I wonder what this does for the Mejia at WNO?
I hope, for Spencer's sake, that this doesn't become a nagging injury. Shoulder injuries can be a huge bummer for wrestlers, as we've seen over the years.
Great. Offer him a full ride immediately.
Hope you have a speedy recovery Spencer!
Hope you have a speedy recovery Spencer!
I think it's interesting that people think Lee is a sure thing.
I see the 50KG's and worry he'll never become a big 125. Lightweights in college are dominated by who is the strongest and biggest at the weight class.
I think back to Ryak Finch who had a lot of success (granted, not near as much or on a world level) but you get to college and all of a sudden you are facing oxes like Tomasello.
If anyone can win while not being one of the biggest it would be Lee, I'm just a little more hesitant.
I see the 50KG's and worry he'll never become a big 125. Lightweights in college are dominated by who is the strongest and biggest at the weight class.
I think back to Ryak Finch who had a lot of success (granted, not near as much or on a world level) but you get to college and all of a sudden you are facing oxes like Tomasello.
If anyone can win while not being one of the biggest it would be Lee, I'm just a little more hesitant.
I believe Tomasello was a 120 lber coming out of High School. Ohio State obviously has a great strength program.
Hopefully Rutt can build us up some oxes. Wasn't it fun when we had 118 and 126 lbers with arms and chests just as big as our middle weight's.
He won a PA state title undersized at 120 pounds last year and he did so by bonusing just about every guy he faced. Lee already said after the Worlds that he doesn't plan on being able to make 50 kg again.
He has two more years of high school to grow into a full sized 125. I assume next summer we see him at 54 or 55 kg next summer, but he didn't just wrestle up a weight in one of the nation's toughest high school wrestling states, he destroyed everyone wrestling up. I get there is room for caution, but with as much time as Lee has left I don't see a reason to hit the panic button on his size.
He has two more years of high school to grow into a full sized 125. I assume next summer we see him at 54 or 55 kg next summer, but he didn't just wrestle up a weight in one of the nation's toughest high school wrestling states, he destroyed everyone wrestling up. I get there is room for caution, but with as much time as Lee has left I don't see a reason to hit the panic button on his size.
I'm not the least bit concerned about his size. I don't see why he'd have any trouble at all growing into 125 over the next couple of years. I'd be more concerned about how long he might be able to stay down at 125, frankly -- not that this would be a major concern.
Concern for everybody that has high hopes for Spencer. Recall Altons and labrum tears.
Rightfully so. I am no doctor, but this seems really iffy...
After he had an MRI, Bradley told Lee he had a torn labrum in his right shoulder.
He had five anchors put in to repair the damage and rebuild the shoulder.
The Altons had no problem curling beers with those bum shoulders. Lee has worked harder as a 16 year old than they ever did.
Some of you might remember John Velez, 125-pounder from Northwestern. Very good wrestler but injured his shoulder, gave it a go with a wrap, and just wasn't anywhere close to his old self.
Of course, although some shoulder injuries can be devastating to wrestlers, they come in many shapes and sizes, so hoping Spencer is good to go after surgery.
Furthermore, McD, for example, wrestled with the bad shoulder and deferred surgery until after the season. Now that he's had it repaired, he looks fantastic.
Of course, although some shoulder injuries can be devastating to wrestlers, they come in many shapes and sizes, so hoping Spencer is good to go after surgery.
Furthermore, McD, for example, wrestled with the bad shoulder and deferred surgery until after the season. Now that he's had it repaired, he looks fantastic.
The anchors are standard on the labrum repair. It's a bizarre piece of equipment, the labrum, just a thin ring of cartilage that serves as an O-ring for the joint. If it tears (and there are two primary ways it can tear), they re-attach it to the bone with anchors and hope that it reattaches.
If it is a SLAP tear, one of those anchors likely will go right through the biceps tendon, reducing the ability to lift things for months (nothing heavier than cup of coffee for ~3 months, gallon of milk for ~4 if I'm remembering my timeline right.)
I'm betting it's a SLAP, because the Bankart tear is normally more from trauma rather than use. A severe dislocation, for example. "My shoulder felt kind of weird so I got it checked" definitely fits more with a SLAP. The Bankart is more "hey my shoulder keeps coming out of the socket what gives?".
Could also hit the jackpot and have both! That was my specialty.
As for the rebuild, that could just be a journalist interpreting the medical procedure, or it could refer to a joint capsule repair, which generally becomes loose after multiple dislocations, also enabling MORE dislocations. That's not something they'd normally do for someone that young without dislocation history, though. The shoulder naturally tightens itself up as you get older.
It's a bitch of a recovery because there's really no rehab you can do for a while, because any movement can impede reattachment. Then, the combo of the surgery and the inactivity means losing a TON of range of motion, which is excruciating to get back. Competitive athletes normally don't have issues with that part, though, so a successful surgery normally means a 95%+ successful recovery these days. Whether they did this open or with a scope matters too. Scope has a higher failure rate, but (obviously) less "I'm running a scalpel through your muscles now" damage.
Thought I'd chime in with my "expertise". Take this all with the typical grains of salt, I'm not a doctor, just a frequent patient!
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Funny how more of the pen staters show up when bad news appears. They are like stink on s..t With the right surgeons, rehab and patience this should not be a major roadblock. Heck if anything, it's another reason he should come to Iowa. He'd get to see MCD's rehab training and success up close. Train with a guy who has a similar "risk" factor. This would be golden.
FYI: The Altons had many more issues than medical injuries which capped their upside first and foremost. Overrated and it was set in stone well before said "injuries" became the "excuse of choice" from pen state. How did the Alton's rehab experience go. Maybe too much pressure to return too soon at pen state for the sake of Sanderson's personal aspirations vs the Alton boys goals (which became secondary.)
I guess penn sters had to come over today cause they've got no one wrestling this week
I have had 3 surgeries for different labrum tears. I of them was a bankart where the bone detatched with the tendon. They heal fine with pysical therapy. I did the therapy and ended up with more range of motion than I had previosly but there are certain lifts such as a military press I was told to no longer do. Once a person has a labrum tear the percentage increases significantly of having another failure down the road. From 2007 to 2013 my first surgery held up but the anchors had deteriorated a good amount from the photos they took during my bankart procedure.
He is young so I am sure he will get the therapy in and and continue to build strength around it since he is active.
He is young so I am sure he will get the therapy in and and continue to build strength around it since he is active.
I'm guessing this means Austin Gomez will take Lee's spot at Who's #1 to have a rematch with Mejia. Hopefully, Mejia gets his revenge. However, it will be disappointing that Alex Thomsen won't get his shot at him at the Night of Conflict.
yes, Nickerson is another example of recurring shoulder problems after an injury.
so was darrion caldwell.
i too would be very concerned about recurrent problems following a labral tear and surgery. i've been pleasantly surprised that Mcd has avoided reinjury, but there are plenty of others not so lucky.
best of luck to Lee for a full recovery.
so was darrion caldwell.
i too would be very concerned about recurrent problems following a labral tear and surgery. i've been pleasantly surprised that Mcd has avoided reinjury, but there are plenty of others not so lucky.
best of luck to Lee for a full recovery.
Yeah, me too. Except for the part about the thing.................
Lee is going to PSU with Mark Hall. The Nittany Lion Wrestling Club will buy him a new shoulder.
Wouldn't be surprised if Mejia decided not to wrestle in the event at all. Think the only reason he did it was for a shot at Lee.
Flo is putting on a premier event with the nation's top wrestlers and have a platform where people not in attendance can actually watch. He has 4 years of college to wrestle in Carver. There is no way he backs out. The Night of Conflict is a new event and will gain traction, but honestly there isn't a ton of matches anyone outside of Iowa cares about.
I only said said I don't think he wrestles at WNO anymore because his opponent is no longer Lee. He didn't pull out of the night of conflict to wrestle at WNO, he did it for a shot at Lee. Now that's no longer a possibility I don't think WNO finds him an opponent worth his while. This in no way means I think he will wrestle at the night of conflict instead. Maybe if Willie can get Gomez to WNO For a rematch of Agon you might see Mejia do the event. Guess will see.
Very much disagree with last statement.
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