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Arrested Capitol rioters had guns and bombs, everyday careers and Olympic medals​

By Brad Heath, Sarah N. Lynch


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - United by political grievances, they came in costumes, snapping selfies, calling themselves patriots. Some came armed for battle and planning for “war.”

As authorities begin to charge the rioters in the Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol, court documents paint a picture of a diverse mob that included both citizens with mainstream careers - police officers, a flower shop owner, a state lawmaker, military veterans, even an Olympic medalist - as well as Americans on the fringe. One was a member of the Proud Boys, a far-right extremist group. Another had a caveman costume beneath a police bulletproof vest. One served time in prison for attempted murder.

They traveled from as far as Hawaii to join the protest of Congress certifying Democrat Joe Biden’s election win, which Republican President Donald Trump has falsely claimed resulted from widespread election fraud. Some brought all manner of weapons or explosives, underscoring the grave threat from an insurrection that resulted in five deaths, including a police officer, and dozens of injuries.

Federal prosecutors have said they expect to bring charges against hundreds of people involving the riot and related threats and violence. They had charged about 80 as of Thursday, a Justice Department spokeswoman said. Their task was made much harder by that fact that overwhelmed police initially made few arrests of the hundreds of people who stormed the building - just 14 were detained that day by the U.S. Capitol Police, which guards the building. And yet many suspects made investigators’ and prosecutors’ jobs easy by mugging for news cameras and posting what authorities described as real-time confessions - including videos of themselves - in postings on social media as they pushed their way inside the Capitol, home to the U.S. Congress, according to a Reuters review of court records.

David Blair - a Trump supporter who lives in Washington’s suburbs and was charged with attacking a police officer with a stick - came to the Capitol after seeing that it had been overrun by a mob supporting the president because he wanted “to witness history,” he told Reuters in a text message. “I ended up still finding a way to get in trouble because I had so much pent-up emotion,” he wrote.

The initial round of charges do not reflect the full gravity of the siege that paralyzed Congress as members fled for their lives and hid from the mob. Authorities expect more serious charges to follow after more intensive investigations. Washington’s acting U.S. attorney, Michael Sherwin, said Tuesday that he had assembled a team to focus on building sedition and conspiracy cases related to the most “heinous” actions during the siege. Investigators are reviewing communications, along with travel and financial records, to track any coordination or organization among the rioters.

“People are going to be shocked with some of the egregious conduct that happened in the Capitol,” Sherwin said.

PREPARING FOR ‘WAR’

Prosecutors say Cleveland Meredith, whose lives in North Carolina, according to his lawyer, loaded his truck and trailer with weapons and headed to Washington, but arrived too late to join the riot. When police searched his truck the next day, they found a high-powered rifle and thousands of rounds of ammunition, including bullets the FBI described as armor-piercing.

As Meredith traveled to Washington, someone sent him a text message that Trump supporters had breached the Capitol. “Burn DC to the FKG ground,” he replied, according to court documents. When Meredith learned that Vice President Mike Pence would count electoral votes from states Trump lost, he replied: “War time.”

FBI agents arrested him the next day in Washington after he sent more menacing texts and head-butted a person on the street, according to court records. Prosecutors urged a judge on Wednesday to keep him locked up while the charges are pending, describing Meredith as “a clearly disturbed, deranged, and dangerous individual that fantasizes about committing horrific acts of violence and takes countless steps to carry them out” and said he appeared ready to act on “extreme political and racial animus.”

Prosecutors described Meredith as an adherent of the fringe QAnon conspiracy theory, which casts Trump as a savior figure and elite Democrats as a cabal of Satanist pedophiles and cannibals. A judge on Thursday ordered Meredith detained pending trial. His lawyer did not respond to questions about the case.

Authorities arrested Coffman of Alabama near the Capitol after noticing the handle of a gun in his pickup truck while they were responding to pipe bombs left outside the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee and Republican National Committee, both of which are near the Capitol. Inside his truck, they found an AR-15-style rifle, a shotgun, a crossbow, several machetes, smoke grenades and 11 Molotov cocktails. They also found a note with the name of at least one member of Congress and a judge, alongside the notation “bad guy.”

Prosecutors said the combination of weapons and political messages “suggest that these weapons were intended to be used in an effort to violently attack our elected representatives.”


A Capitol Police agent said in a court filing that Coffman told the officers who arrested him that he tried to return to his parked truck several times during the day but couldn’t because police had blocked off the area while they investigated the pipe bombs.

Others were armed during the riot: A police officer said he noticed a bulge on the hip of Christopher Alberts - who was dressed in body armor and carrying a gas mask - as he filed out of the Capitol grounds, according to court records. When they stopped him, they found a loaded handgun. Alberts’ lawyer did not respond to questions about the case.

Two other men, Eric Munchel and Larry Brock, both were photographed inside the Capitol carrying zip ties, commonly used as a handcuff. Prosecutors have not said what either man intended to do with them. Brock is an Air Force veteran who once flew warplanes. Both were charged with being inside the Capitol illegally. Reuters was unable to reach their attorneys.

Michael Curzio, arrested at the front of a crowd inside the Capitol, had recently served a prison sentence in Florida for attempted murder. He was released in 2019. Curzio’s mother, Vicki Prentiss, told Reuters he went to Washington because “he was excited about going to support Trump.” Curzio was charged with violent entry and disorderly conduct, along with unlawful entry of the Capitol. Curzio’s case was sealed by the court and he could not be reached for comment.

 

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Oath Keepers brought grenades, rifles, “suitcases full of ammunition” to Washington D.C. on eve of January 6​

Jacob Crosse
11 July 2022​

On Friday, US federal prosecutors filed a 28-page motion that includes new allegations against Oath Keeper leader Stewart Rhodes and his fascistic associates.

The filing came as the House Select Committee charged with investigating ex-President Donald Trump’s failed coup prepared to hold its seventh and eighth televised hearings this week.

The motion includes details about the planning and preparation for the coup, including weapons and materiel the accused allegedly brought to the Washington D.C. area. Items mentioned in the motion include semi-automatic rifles, grenades and tactical gear, such as combat helmets and axes.

The motion also mentions that “suitcases filled with ammunition” were supplied to at least three separate “QRF” (Quick Reaction Force) teams that were stationed outside the capital, waiting to be deployed.

Oath Keeper chapters from Florida, North Carolina and Arizona participated in forming and equipping the heavily armed QRF teams. Shattering claims by Trump, his Republican allies and complacent elements in the pseudo-left that the attack on the Capitol was a “spontaneous First Amendment demonstration” that “got out of hand,” prosecutors allege that on January 5, the Arizona Oath Keeper group arrived at the Virginia Hotel and “wheeled in bags and large bins of weapons, ammunition, and essential supplies to last 30 days.”

In addition to Rhodes, Friday’s filing mentioned eight other Oath Keepers: Kelly Meggs, Kenneth Harrelson, Jessica Watkins, Roberto Minuta, Joseph Hackett, David Moerschel, Thomas Caldwell and Edward Vallejo. These nine have been charged with seditious conspiracy for their actions before, during and after January 6, 2021. They have all pled not guilty. Oath Keepers Joshua James and Brian Ulrich were also charged with seditious conspiracy for participating in the coup. However, both men pled guilty earlier this year.

The documents note that on the morning of January 6, Rhodes texted his minions: “We will have several well equipped QRFs outside DC. And there are many, many others, from other groups, who will be watching and waiting on the outside in case of worst case scenarios.”

Following the failed coup, according to the court documents, Rhodes spent over $17,000 on gun parts and tactical equipment and summoned Oath Keepers to join him in Texas for a possible firefight with government agents if they attempted to arrest him.

Prosecutors also claim that several Oath Keepers continued to plot against the Biden government after January 6. In a search of the home of Watkins after the coup, prosecutors found numerous firearms, pool sticks cut down to be used as batons, and two bomb-making recipes. Watkins is a U.S. Army veteran who deployed to Afghanistan from 2001 to 2003.

The Justice Department claims that in addition to military grade weaponry, one Oath Keeper, Thomas Caldwell, kept a “death list” in his home that included the name of a “Georgia elections official” and a family member of that person. It was earlier revealed that Caldwell, a retired U.S. Navy officer who previously held a top secret security clearance while working for the FBI, kept such a list. But it was not known that a specific Georgia election official and a family member of the official were named by Caldwell.

While the Justice Department did not name the official targeted by the fascists, the filing noted that they “became the target of unfounded conspiracy theories that they were involved in voter fraud” during the 2020 election.

In the fourth January 6 Select Committee hearing held last month, former Fulton County, Georgia, election worker Wandrea ArShaye Moss, along with her mother, Ruby Freeman, provided testimony on the racist attacks and death threats they received following the 2020 election, after Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, launched a smear campaign against the women that spread like wildfire on right-wing media.

The prosecutors allege that when officers searched Caldwell’s house last year, they discovered that in addition to maintaining a kill list, Caldwell was attempting to acquire a gun made to look like a cell phone. In messages sent after January 6 and before the January 20 inauguration of Biden, Caldwell allegedly tried to get other Oath Keepers to build him rifles.

The court documents also detail the role of a currently un-indicted Oath Keeper co-conspirator, Jeremy Brown. The documents note that during a search of Brown’s home on September 30, 2021, the authorities “seized two illegal guns from Brown’s residence and military ordnance grenades” from inside a recreation vehicle that Brown owned. The same RV, prosecutors note, was in Washington D.C. on January 6.

The Oath Keepers are dominated by ex- and current police and military members. According to a database maintained by the Program on Extremism at George Washington University, of the 838 people charged so far in the failed coup, at least 102, or 13 percent, have military experience. The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) estimates that about 10 percent of the Oath Keepers’ membership are active-duty military, and around two-thirds are retired military or police.

The Oath Keepers, along with the Proud Boys, III Percenters and other right-wing militias, played an integral role in the Republican plot to overthrow the election of Joe Biden and install Trump as president-dictator.
Throughout his campaigns and his presidency, Trump cultivated support among the militias through his effusive praise of the police, military and border gestapo. Trump also elevated the groups in public statements—most notably in his debate with Biden in September 2020, when he instructed the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by.”

Trump continues to glorify right-wing militias that heeded his call. He claims those who were arrested in the failed coup are “political prisoners,” who have been “treated so badly.”
At his fascistic campaign-style rally held this past Saturday in Anchorage, Alaska, Trump—who is yet to be charged, let alone arrested, for trying to overthrow the government—hustled Trump paraphernalia alongside Confederate flag hats, III Percenter T-shirts, and stickers.

At the rally, which took place a month before the August 16 Alaska Republican primary, Trump endorsed Kelly Tshibaka for Senate and former Republican vice presidential candidate, Sarah Palin, for the House.

In a typical, long-winded fascistic rant, Trump attacked current Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski, who voted to impeach Trump following the coup, as a “bad person” and a “piece of __” who was “worse than a Democrat.”

While Trump has been allowed complete freedom to build up his far-right movement, the Democratic-controlled January 6 Committee has dawdled for 18 months, only recently revealing in public hearings new information establishing Trump’s direct role in organizing a violent coup.
On Friday, the committee heard eight hours of testimony from Trump’s White House counsel, Pat Cipollone.

Cipollone previously failed to testify before the committee. However, a June 29 subpoena from the committee—coupled with explosive testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson, a former top aide to Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows—drove Cipollone to cooperate.

In her testimony before the committee on June 28, Hutchinson said that Cipollone warned her that Trump would be charged with “every crime imaginable” if he marched on the Capitol on January 6.

Hutchinson also testified that she recalled hearing the words “Oath Keeper” and “Proud Boy” mentioned inside the White House when Giuliani came to visit Trump. Speaking to CNN on Friday, committee member and Democratic Representative from California Zoe Lofgren said that Cipollone’s testimony “did not contradict” previous witness testimony.
 

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Here you go storyteller. Turn him in. You have a civic duty to do so.

You are so dumb, lol:

Jan. 6 defendants were armed with guns, other weapons, documents show​

IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT​

  • Court documents show that some of the more than 430 people charged with crimes related to the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol brought guns onto Capitol grounds or stashed them away while staying in Washington.
  • Many defendants used other weapons such as clubs, pepper spray, bear spray and flagpoles.
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President Donald Trump claimed on Fox News that there were no guns in the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

During an on-air conversation with Trump on July 11, "Sunday Morning Futures" host Maria Bartiromo twice broached the topic of whether guns were present during the attack at the Capitol.

"They called it an armed insurrection, and yet no guns were seized," Bartiromo said before describing it as being among the "misinformation" spread about Trump’s presidency.

Later, she repeated the assertion: "They continue to call this an armed insurrection," Bartiromo said. "And yet no guns were seized, Mr. President."

"Right," Trump answered. "There were no guns whatsoever."

Trump went on to describe the events of Jan. 6 by saying that "people with no guns walked down" to the Capitol, that the building’s doors were open, and that there was a "lovefest" between the Capitol police and the insurrectionists.

Court documents, video evidence and news coverage directly contradict this characterization.

Many of those involved in the attack were armed, and several had guns that police later seized. The event was far from a lovefest: Five people died, including a Capitol Police officer, and more than 140 officers were injured in the day’s events. Video evidence shows both police officers and rioters being injured in the brawls. Rioters called for hanging then-Vice President Mike Pence and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Damage to the Capitol is estimated at $1.5 million and included ransacked offices, broken windows and doors, broken and stolen photography equipment, ruined statues, murals and furniture. A pending security funding bill provides dollars to cover related expenses, including tightened security and trauma counseling.

PolitiFact reviewed the case files of approximately 430 defendants who were arrested and charged for their actions at the Capitol. We found several defendants who police say were found to have brought firearms with them. Some were charged with having firearms on Capitol grounds, while others stashed them away while in Washington.

They included:



By Madeline Heim • September 9, 2022
Lonnie Coffman of Alabama: Police found multiple firearms and weapons in Coffman’s possession. Coffman’s truck, which he had parked in the vicinity of the Capitol on the morning of Jan. 6, was packed with weaponry including a handgun, a rifle and a shotgun, each loaded, according to court documents. In addition, the truck held hundreds of rounds of ammunition, several large-capacity ammunition feeding devices, a crossbow with bolts, machetes, camouflage smoke devices, a stun gun and 11 Molotov cocktails.

Court records and video surveillance footage show that Coffman, who had ties to militia groups, parked the vehicle near the Capitol at 9:15 a.m. that day. The documents say that after he got out of his pickup truck at 9:20 a.m., he joined a crowd of people who walked directly to the Capitol building.

He was detained later that evening as an unnamed woman was driving him back toward his truck. Police questioned Coffman and searched him, finding two more handguns on his person. None of the weapons were registered, documents state.

Guy Reffitt of Texas: Reffitt was charged with bringing a handgun onto Capitol grounds. Court documents showed that Reffitt, reported in court documents to be a member of the militia group Three Percenters, told his family he brought his gun with him and that he and others "stormed the Capitol."

Christopher Michael Alberts of Maryland: Alberts brought his handgun onto Capitol grounds. An officer saw that Alberts had a gun on his hip and alerted fellow officers. When Alberts tried to flee, officers detained him and recovered the loaded handgun along with a separate magazine.

The total number of people who carried firearms with them that day may not ever be fully accounted for because the majority of those involved in the siege were not arrested on-site but were tracked down by law enforcement days, weeks and months later.

It’s also worth noting that the definition of "armed" is not legally limited to guns — it refers to any weapon used for defense or offense and used as a means of protection. Other items used as weapons Jan. 6 included bats, crutches, flagpoles, skateboards, fire extinguishers and chemical sprays.

We reached out to Trump’s team to ask for evidence behind his statements but did not hear back. We also reached out to Fox News for comment but did not get a response by deadline.

Our ruling
Trump said there were "no guns whatsoever" at the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol and that "people with no guns" walked down to the Capitol.

Court records and news reports show that many insurrectionists were armed, and several were charged with having firearms on Capitol grounds or stashed nearby while in Washington D.C. In addition, rioters had weapons other than firearms and used them during the attack.

We rate this claim False.
 
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Evidence of firearms in Jan. 6 crowd grows as arrests and trials mount

During a recent Jan. 6 committee hearing, testimony about armed Trump supporters accompanied police radio reports

By Tom Jackman
,
Rachel Weiner
and
Spencer S. Hsu

July 8, 2022 at 9:40 a.m. EDT[/COLOR]
Video of rally attendees is shown as Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Trump White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, testifies during a hearing of the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)


Some of the startling revelations of the recent blockbuster Jan. 6 House committee hearing came in snippets of police radio traffic captured during President Donald Trump’s rally on the Ellipse and from Trump’s purported response to being told there were armed protesters just outside a secured area.

The chatter included reports of a man with an AR-15 in a tree on Constitution Avenue who was accompanied by two men with pistols on their hips. Another officer radioed, “I’ve got three men walking down the street in fatigues carrying AR-15s, copy, at 14th and Independence.”

The recordings aired during the June 28 hearing in which former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson testified that Trump reportedly “was angry that we weren’t letting people through the [metal detectors] with weapons.”

The full picture of how many among the crowd were armed before the riot occurred is unclear, but court records, trial testimony and accounts from police officers and rioters have supplied growing evidence that multiple people brought firearms to Washington for Jan. 6, 2021. Six men were arrested that day for having guns in the vicinity of the U.S. Capitol, and a seventh who arrived after the riot ended was arrested the following day. Despite some instances in which alerts about people with guns turned out to be false alarms, accounts from police officers and rioters indicate that many firearms were spotted on Jan. 6 but were not seized as law enforcement focused more on defending the Capitol than on arresting gun-law violators.






A spokesperson for the U.S. Park Police said the agency investigated “a report of an individual on the Washington Monument grounds in a tree possibly armed with a pistol. USPP officers contacted the individual and it was determined the individual was unarmed.” A spokesman for the D.C. police said there was no indication that any arrests were made or weapons confiscated on the basis of the people cited in radio transmissions played by the committee.
At 15th Street and Independence Avenue the morning of Jan. 6, 2021, a Washington Post reporter watched as a group from Broward County, Fla., was stopped by D.C. police because people in the group were carrying large assault rifles. They said the guns were not loaded and were “just a symbol” of their Second Amendment rights. They were briefly detained but released once the guns were handed over to police. Some in the crowd protested that “you can’t suspend a constitutional amendment,” but the interaction occurred before the Capitol was breached and did not turn violent. It is unclear whether the group the reporter encountered was the same reported on the hearing’s radio transmissions or why the men were not arrested when D.C. law prohibits the open carrying of guns.

Federal authorities have said that officers were confiscating weapons illegally brought into the District starting Jan. 5 and encountered people brandishing gun parts in an intimidating manner. The latter category included two men stopped the morning of Jan. 6 who wore slings attached to machine gun barrels while walking along the Mall. The men were not charged because the barrels alone were not firearms, authorities said. It is unclear whether they were part of the group seen by a Post reporter.
 
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"Let’s have trial by combat" Rudy on Jan 6
That's funny. The guy I spoke with remembered it specifically as "Jury by execution", which I think kicks it up a notch. He was adamant that's what he said and seemed to think the crowd all agreed and it lit the fuse.
 

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he said because Trump said so, that's it.

and I'm 6'2", insanely hansome, built like a brick shithouse, hung like a shetland pony and i cook and do windows.
 
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So much to digest there.

You should probably just inform the authorities. This is the first I've heard there was lethal weapons. Might help get more people locked up.
 
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Who said there were military grade weapons on the videos?
There were in duffel I heard. Figured they’d be in videos. We’re their guns in any of the videos? I didn’t see any, but again, I may be blind:

It was definitely well planned and organized, I don’t doubt that at all. And I hope they can pin that on Trump.
 

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Maybe read the story before chiming in. The FBI already found him.
Sure they did. I'm sure he disclosed his guns as well. Which cop was being beaten? You know he would be on video right? So post the video of stuff.

He is a liar or you are telling stories.
 
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Arrested Capitol rioters had guns and bombs, everyday careers and Olympic medals​

By Brad Heath, Sarah N. Lynch


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - United by political grievances, they came in costumes, snapping selfies, calling themselves patriots. Some came armed for battle and planning for “war.”

As authorities begin to charge the rioters in the Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol, court documents paint a picture of a diverse mob that included both citizens with mainstream careers - police officers, a flower shop owner, a state lawmaker, military veterans, even an Olympic medalist - as well as Americans on the fringe. One was a member of the Proud Boys, a far-right extremist group. Another had a caveman costume beneath a police bulletproof vest. One served time in prison for attempted murder.

They traveled from as far as Hawaii to join the protest of Congress certifying Democrat Joe Biden’s election win, which Republican President Donald Trump has falsely claimed resulted from widespread election fraud. Some brought all manner of weapons or explosives, underscoring the grave threat from an insurrection that resulted in five deaths, including a police officer, and dozens of injuries.

Federal prosecutors have said they expect to bring charges against hundreds of people involving the riot and related threats and violence. They had charged about 80 as of Thursday, a Justice Department spokeswoman said. Their task was made much harder by that fact that overwhelmed police initially made few arrests of the hundreds of people who stormed the building - just 14 were detained that day by the U.S. Capitol Police, which guards the building. And yet many suspects made investigators’ and prosecutors’ jobs easy by mugging for news cameras and posting what authorities described as real-time confessions - including videos of themselves - in postings on social media as they pushed their way inside the Capitol, home to the U.S. Congress, according to a Reuters review of court records.

David Blair - a Trump supporter who lives in Washington’s suburbs and was charged with attacking a police officer with a stick - came to the Capitol after seeing that it had been overrun by a mob supporting the president because he wanted “to witness history,” he told Reuters in a text message. “I ended up still finding a way to get in trouble because I had so much pent-up emotion,” he wrote.

The initial round of charges do not reflect the full gravity of the siege that paralyzed Congress as members fled for their lives and hid from the mob. Authorities expect more serious charges to follow after more intensive investigations. Washington’s acting U.S. attorney, Michael Sherwin, said Tuesday that he had assembled a team to focus on building sedition and conspiracy cases related to the most “heinous” actions during the siege. Investigators are reviewing communications, along with travel and financial records, to track any coordination or organization among the rioters.

“People are going to be shocked with some of the egregious conduct that happened in the Capitol,” Sherwin said.

PREPARING FOR ‘WAR’

Prosecutors say Cleveland Meredith, whose lives in North Carolina, according to his lawyer, loaded his truck and trailer with weapons and headed to Washington, but arrived too late to join the riot. When police searched his truck the next day, they found a high-powered rifle and thousands of rounds of ammunition, including bullets the FBI described as armor-piercing.

As Meredith traveled to Washington, someone sent him a text message that Trump supporters had breached the Capitol. “Burn DC to the FKG ground,” he replied, according to court documents. When Meredith learned that Vice President Mike Pence would count electoral votes from states Trump lost, he replied: “War time.”

FBI agents arrested him the next day in Washington after he sent more menacing texts and head-butted a person on the street, according to court records. Prosecutors urged a judge on Wednesday to keep him locked up while the charges are pending, describing Meredith as “a clearly disturbed, deranged, and dangerous individual that fantasizes about committing horrific acts of violence and takes countless steps to carry them out” and said he appeared ready to act on “extreme political and racial animus.”

Prosecutors described Meredith as an adherent of the fringe QAnon conspiracy theory, which casts Trump as a savior figure and elite Democrats as a cabal of Satanist pedophiles and cannibals. A judge on Thursday ordered Meredith detained pending trial. His lawyer did not respond to questions about the case.

Authorities arrested Coffman of Alabama near the Capitol after noticing the handle of a gun in his pickup truck while they were responding to pipe bombs left outside the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee and Republican National Committee, both of which are near the Capitol. Inside his truck, they found an AR-15-style rifle, a shotgun, a crossbow, several machetes, smoke grenades and 11 Molotov cocktails. They also found a note with the name of at least one member of Congress and a judge, alongside the notation “bad guy.”

Prosecutors said the combination of weapons and political messages “suggest that these weapons were intended to be used in an effort to violently attack our elected representatives.”


A Capitol Police agent said in a court filing that Coffman told the officers who arrested him that he tried to return to his parked truck several times during the day but couldn’t because police had blocked off the area while they investigated the pipe bombs.

Others were armed during the riot: A police officer said he noticed a bulge on the hip of Christopher Alberts - who was dressed in body armor and carrying a gas mask - as he filed out of the Capitol grounds, according to court records. When they stopped him, they found a loaded handgun. Alberts’ lawyer did not respond to questions about the case.

Two other men, Eric Munchel and Larry Brock, both were photographed inside the Capitol carrying zip ties, commonly used as a handcuff. Prosecutors have not said what either man intended to do with them. Brock is an Air Force veteran who once flew warplanes. Both were charged with being inside the Capitol illegally. Reuters was unable to reach their attorneys.

Michael Curzio, arrested at the front of a crowd inside the Capitol, had recently served a prison sentence in Florida for attempted murder. He was released in 2019. Curzio’s mother, Vicki Prentiss, told Reuters he went to Washington because “he was excited about going to support Trump.” Curzio was charged with violent entry and disorderly conduct, along with unlawful entry of the Capitol. Curzio’s case was sealed by the court and he could not be reached for comment.

Lots of arrests there.
 

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There were in duffel I heard. Figured they’d be in videos. We’re their guns in any of the videos? I didn’t see any, but again, I may be blind:

It was definitely well planned and organized, I don’t doubt that at all. And I hope they can pin that on Trump.
There are several long investigative pieces on the topic, which indicate the plan was to hold off on utilizing the stashed weapons until after the Capitol was secured and Trump allies were in place and ready to certify the election for their preferred (Trump) candidate.

I'll see if I can go back and find at least one.
 
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[COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-onSecondary)][COLOR=var(--wpds-colors-onSecondary)]LEGAL ISSUEShttps://www.washingtonpost.com/local/[/COLOR]

Evidence of firearms in Jan. 6 crowd grows as arrests and trials mount

During a recent Jan. 6 committee hearing, testimony about armed Trump supporters accompanied police radio reports

By Tom Jackman
,
Rachel Weiner
and
Spencer S. Hsu

July 8, 2022 at 9:40 a.m. EDT[/COLOR]


Video of rally attendees is shown as Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Trump White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, testifies during a hearing of the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)



Some of the startling revelations of the recent blockbuster Jan. 6 House committee hearing came in snippets of police radio traffic captured during President Donald Trump’s rally on the Ellipse and from Trump’s purported response to being told there were armed protesters just outside a secured area.

The chatter included reports of a man with an AR-15 in a tree on Constitution Avenue who was accompanied by two men with pistols on their hips. Another officer radioed, “I’ve got three men walking down the street in fatigues carrying AR-15s, copy, at 14th and Independence.”

The recordings aired during the June 28 hearing in which former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson testified that Trump reportedly “was angry that we weren’t letting people through the [metal detectors] with weapons.”

The full picture of how many among the crowd were armed before the riot occurred is unclear, but court records, trial testimony and accounts from police officers and rioters have supplied growing evidence that multiple people brought firearms to Washington for Jan. 6, 2021. Six men were arrested that day for having guns in the vicinity of the U.S. Capitol, and a seventh who arrived after the riot ended was arrested the following day. Despite some instances in which alerts about people with guns turned out to be false alarms, accounts from police officers and rioters indicate that many firearms were spotted on Jan. 6 but were not seized as law enforcement focused more on defending the Capitol than on arresting gun-law violators.






A spokesperson for the U.S. Park Police said the agency investigated “a report of an individual on the Washington Monument grounds in a tree possibly armed with a pistol. USPP officers contacted the individual and it was determined the individual was unarmed.” A spokesman for the D.C. police said there was no indication that any arrests were made or weapons confiscated on the basis of the people cited in radio transmissions played by the committee.
At 15th Street and Independence Avenue the morning of Jan. 6, 2021, a Washington Post reporter watched as a group from Broward County, Fla., was stopped by D.C. police because people in the group were carrying large assault rifles. They said the guns were not loaded and were “just a symbol” of their Second Amendment rights. They were briefly detained but released once the guns were handed over to police. Some in the crowd protested that “you can’t suspend a constitutional amendment,” but the interaction occurred before the Capitol was breached and did not turn violent. It is unclear whether the group the reporter encountered was the same reported on the hearing’s radio transmissions or why the men were not arrested when D.C. law prohibits the open carrying of guns.

Federal authorities have said that officers were confiscating weapons illegally brought into the District starting Jan. 5 and encountered people brandishing gun parts in an intimidating manner. The latter category included two men stopped the morning of Jan. 6 who wore slings attached to machine gun barrels while walking along the Mall. The men were not charged because the barrels alone were not firearms, authorities said. It is unclear whether they were part of the group seen by a Post reporter.
Lots of videos and photos of the day. Post the ones with firearms and grenades Mr journalist. Your article is a joke....did you write it?

Where is the CNN stories highlighting the guns as people stormed the Capitol? Oh....right...there aren't any
 

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There are several long investigative pieces on the topic, which indicate the plan was to hold off on utilizing the stashed weapons until after the Capitol was secured and Trump allies were in place and ready to certify the election for their preferred (Trump) candidate.

I'll see if I can go back and find at least one.
Lots of stories from people like you

Show us the guns torbee. Should be easy with all the arrests and prosecutions that have taken place.
 

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There are several long investigative pieces on the topic, which indicate the plan was to hold off on utilizing the stashed weapons until after the Capitol was secured and Trump allies were in place and ready to certify the election for their preferred (Trump) candidate.

I'll see if I can go back and find at least one.
Didn't take too long:

On January 6 thousands of pro-Trump rioters stormed the building injuring police officers and sending lawmakers fleeing. Five people died around the events, including a Capitol police officer and a Trump supporter shot by law enforcement. The attempt to stop Biden from becoming president failed.

The federal indictment alleges Stewart Rhodes, founder of the Oath Keepers, a far-right extremist group, conspired with 10 other members to oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power. The group stationed armed members on the outskirts of Washington to serve as so-called “quick reaction force” teams. Rhodes has pleaded not guilty to seditious conspiracy charges.

The Oath Keepers even discussed a naval operation to ferry in guns to the militia. One Oath Keeper, Thomas Caldwell, asked fellow members if anyone had a boat that could handle crossing the Potomac River. “If we had someone standing by at a dock ramp (one near the Pentagon for sure) we could have our Quick Response Team with the heavy weapons standing by, quickly load them and ferry them across the river to our waiting arms,” the documents quoted him as saying.


Rhodes went on a buying spree in the days leading up to the attack, spending more than $20,000 on guns and equipment for the attack. In December Rhodes bought two pairs of night-vision goggles and a weapons sight for about $7,000 and shipped them to Virginia. In January he spent another $5,000 on a shotgun, scope, magazine, sights, optics, a bipod, a mount, a case of ammunition and gun cleaning supplies. Two days later he spent $6,000 more, and then about $4,500 the next day.

On 7 November 2020, when Trump was finally projected to have lost the election, Rhodes began plotting, texting the group chat: “We must now do what the people of Serbia did when Milosevic stole their election. Refuse to accept it and march en-mass on the nations Capitol.” Rhodes then shared a video on Bitchute, an alt-tech video platform, of a step-by-step procedure of how to overthrow a government based on the Serbian example.

Two days later Rhodes held an online conference with Oath Keepers members outlining a plan to overturn the election. Two days later after that a member of the group, Caldwell, reached out to Rhodes to share the results of a “recce” – a military colloquialism for reconnaissance operation – to Washington and begin planning for an upcoming “op” to the Capitol.

From there members began working together. In late November, the Florida chapter of the Oath Keepers held a training on “unconventional warfare”. “It will be a bloody and desperate fight. We are going to have a fight. That can’t be avoided,” Rhodes wrote in a group chat with members in December.

On 21 December 2020, Oath Keepers mentioned January 6 for the first time. James Wakins, one of the 11 Oath Keepers charged in the case, texted the signal chat about a “National call to action for DC Jan 6th” and said Oath Keepers from three states were mobilizing “Everyone in this channel should understand the magnitude of what I just said,” Wakins wrote.

Rhodes told a regional Oath Keeper leader that if Biden assumed the presidency, “We will have to do a bloody, massively bloody revolution against them. That’s whats going to have to happen.”

At 6.27am on the morning of January 6 Rhodes texted the group chat: “We will have several well equipped QRF’s outside D.C.” At about 8.30am Rhodes and other Oath Keepers left from their hotel and drove to the Capitol in Washington DC.


The teams that stayed behind in a hotel in Virginia discussed the possibility of “armed conflict” and “guerrilla war”.

 

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Didn't take too long:

On January 6 thousands of pro-Trump rioters stormed the building injuring police officers and sending lawmakers fleeing. Five people died around the events, including a Capitol police officer and a Trump supporter shot by law enforcement. The attempt to stop Biden from becoming president failed.

The federal indictment alleges Stewart Rhodes, founder of the Oath Keepers, a far-right extremist group, conspired with 10 other members to oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power. The group stationed armed members on the outskirts of Washington to serve as so-called “quick reaction force” teams. Rhodes has pleaded not guilty to seditious conspiracy charges.

The Oath Keepers even discussed a naval operation to ferry in guns to the militia. One Oath Keeper, Thomas Caldwell, asked fellow members if anyone had a boat that could handle crossing the Potomac River. “If we had someone standing by at a dock ramp (one near the Pentagon for sure) we could have our Quick Response Team with the heavy weapons standing by, quickly load them and ferry them across the river to our waiting arms,” the documents quoted him as saying.


Rhodes went on a buying spree in the days leading up to the attack, spending more than $20,000 on guns and equipment for the attack. In December Rhodes bought two pairs of night-vision goggles and a weapons sight for about $7,000 and shipped them to Virginia. In January he spent another $5,000 on a shotgun, scope, magazine, sights, optics, a bipod, a mount, a case of ammunition and gun cleaning supplies. Two days later he spent $6,000 more, and then about $4,500 the next day.

On 7 November 2020, when Trump was finally projected to have lost the election, Rhodes began plotting, texting the group chat: “We must now do what the people of Serbia did when Milosevic stole their election. Refuse to accept it and march en-mass on the nations Capitol.” Rhodes then shared a video on Bitchute, an alt-tech video platform, of a step-by-step procedure of how to overthrow a government based on the Serbian example.

Two days later Rhodes held an online conference with Oath Keepers members outlining a plan to overturn the election. Two days later after that a member of the group, Caldwell, reached out to Rhodes to share the results of a “recce” – a military colloquialism for reconnaissance operation – to Washington and begin planning for an upcoming “op” to the Capitol.

From there members began working together. In late November, the Florida chapter of the Oath Keepers held a training on “unconventional warfare”. “It will be a bloody and desperate fight. We are going to have a fight. That can’t be avoided,” Rhodes wrote in a group chat with members in December.

On 21 December 2020, Oath Keepers mentioned January 6 for the first time. James Wakins, one of the 11 Oath Keepers charged in the case, texted the signal chat about a “National call to action for DC Jan 6th” and said Oath Keepers from three states were mobilizing “Everyone in this channel should understand the magnitude of what I just said,” Wakins wrote.

Rhodes told a regional Oath Keeper leader that if Biden assumed the presidency, “We will have to do a bloody, massively bloody revolution against them. That’s whats going to have to happen.”

At 6.27am on the morning of January 6 Rhodes texted the group chat: “We will have several well equipped QRF’s outside D.C.” At about 8.30am Rhodes and other Oath Keepers left from their hotel and drove to the Capitol in Washington DC.


The teams that stayed behind in a hotel in Virginia discussed the possibility of “armed conflict” and “guerrilla war”.

And not one gun recovered and not one shot fired
 

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‘I don’t f— care that they have weapons’: Trump demanded security allow rioters anyway, aide says​


BY ANUMITA KAURSTAFF WRITER
JUNE 28, 2022 11:23 AM PT
WASHINGTON —

Then-President Trump knew that rioters were heavily armed on the morning of Jan. 6, 2021, just hours before the insurrection at the Capitol and encouraged security to let them pass anyway, according to testimony on Tuesday before a House committee.

“I don’t f— care that they have weapons,” former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson said before the panel Tuesday, recalling Trump’s comments the morning of Jan. 6. “They’re not here to hurt me. Take the f— mags [magnetometers] away. Let my people in. They can march to the Capitol from here.”

Hutchinson told the House Select Committee investigating the violence on Jan. 6 that Trump insisted all attendees — regardless of whether they were armed — be allowed inside his rally that morning, repeatedly stating that “they’re not here to hurt me.” Trump’s remarks came just minutes before he took the stage at his rally, Hutchinson said.

In the days leading up to Jan. 6, White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows was informed of attendees’ plans to carry arms at Trump’s rally before heading to the Capitol, Hutchinson said. He was told that attendees would have knives, guns, pistols, rifles and spears. Meadows did not look up from his phone after he was told the news, Hutchinson said.

“All right, anything else?” Hutchinson recalled Meadows saying while he still looked down at his phone.
Hutchinson is the only witness during Tuesday’s hearing, which was scheduled with less than 24 hours’ notice. The hearings are part of an investigation attempting to lay out what led to the violence at the Capitol on Jan. 6, and are expected to continue next month.

 
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And not one gun recovered and not one shot fired
O RLY?

Dumbass.

Texan armed with gun in Jan. 6 riot gets 7 years in prison, most of any rioter so far​

Guy Reffitt, 49, of Wylie, was the first Capitol rioter to be convicted at trial. Prosecutors said he played a “central role” by leading the mob to attack and breach the Capitol building.​

Supporters of former President Donald Trump climb the west wall of the the U.S. Capitol in...

Supporters of former President Donald Trump climb the west wall of the the U.S. Capitol in Washington as they storm the building on Jan. 6, 2021, while inside Congress prepared to affirm President-elect Joe Biden

A North Texas militia member who charged up the U.S. Capitol steps with body armor and a handgun while urging a violent mob forward has been given the longest prison sentence to date of any Jan. 6 rioter.

U.S. District Judge Dabney L. Friedrich, an appointee of former President Donald Trump, sentenced Guy Reffitt, of Wylie, to seven years and two months in prison on Monday in Washington, D.C., for his “central role” in the insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021, court records show.

The government asked for 15 years, arguing that Reffitt brought a gun to the Capitol, planned extensively for the attack, recruited others in the plot and brought flex cuffs to take lawmakers into custody.

Related:Son testifies against father from North Texas charged with storming Capitol

“He came to our nation’s capital with a plan to physically and violently remove the legislators, some of whom he threatened by name, from inside the Capitol building and take over the Congress,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Nestler said in a sentencing memorandum.

Prosecutors argued that the Wylie man’s behavior was deserving of a terrorism enhancement because even after the Capitol siege, he continued to plot additional violence and attacks against the government and major U.S. institutions like the media and the tech industry.



Kindly STFU and exit thread now. You've been proved a moron.
 

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O RLY 2


At approximately 1925 hours (7:25p.m.), I was assisting escorting individuals past an MPD line when I noticed a man, later identified by his Maryland driver’s license as CHRISTOPHER ALBERTS, to be slow in responding to orders to leave the premises. As I approached ALBERTS ___________________________________ from his rear, I noticed a bulge on ALBERTS’ right hip. Based on my training and experience, I recognized the bulge was consistent with that of a hand gun. While pushing ALBERTS towards the line, I tapped the bulge with my baton and felt a hard object that I immediately recognized to be a firearm. At the time, ALBERTS was also wearing a bullet-proof vest and carrying a backpack. At that point, I told two MPD officers next to him that ALBERTS had a firearm on his person. ALBERTS, apparently hearing that, immediately tried to flee, but I was able to detain him with the help of two other officers. A black Taurus G2C 9mm (Serial#AAL085515) was recovered from D-1’s right hip. Additionally, a separate magazine was located on D-1’s left hip. Both the gun and the spare magazine were in held in two separate holsters. The handgun had one round in the chamber with a twelve round capacity magazine filled with twelve rounds; the spare magazine also had a twelve round capacity and was filled with twelve rounds. MPD Officers also seized a gas-mask from the defendant’s person as well as the defendant’s backpack containing a pocketknife, one packaged military meal-ready to eat (MRE), and one first-aid medical kit. The MPD Gun Recovery Unit was dispatched and ALBERTS was subsequently placed under arrest for Carrying a Pistol without a License, Possession of a firearm on Capital Grounds, Curfew Violation, Possession of Unregistered Ammunition, and Possession of a High Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device, and was transported to 5D for processing.
 

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And not one gun recovered and not one shot fired
O RLY 3:

After addressing the explosive devices found in the vicinity of the National Republican Club and the Democratic National Committee Headquarters, the Bomb Squad responded to the location of the Red GMC Sierra Pickup truck. One black handgun was recovered from the right front passenger seat of the vehicle. After locating the black handgun, officers proceeded to search the rest of the pickup truck, including the bed of the truck, which was secured under a fabric top. During the search of the cab of the truck, officers recovered, among other things, one M4 Carbine assault rifle along with rifle magazines loaded with ammunition. In addition, officers recovered the following items in the bed of the pickup truck in close proximity to one another: (i) eleven mason jars containing an unknown liquid with a golf tee in the top of each jar, (ii) cloth rags, and (iii) lighters. Upon finding these materials, bomb technicians observed that the items appeared to be consistent with components for an explosive or incendiary device known as a “Molotov Cocktail.” Based on this discovery, additional personnel were called to the scene, including the United States Capitol Police Hazardous Materials Team. A preliminary test by the United States Capitol Police Hazardous Material Team determined that the liquid in the mason jars was an igniting substance and that it had a spectrograph profile consistent with gasoline. An explosive enforcement officer and a certified explosive specialist, both with the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives, were consulted and each stated that, based on their training and experience, the (i) eleven mason jars containing an unknown liquid with a golf tee in the top of each jar, (ii) cloth rags, and (iii) lighters found in close proximity to one another constitute a combination of parts either designed or intended for use in converting any device into a “destructive device,” as defined in 26 U.S.C. § 5845(f), and from which a “destructive device” may be readily assembled. Possession of the above-referenced components without registering any “destructive devices” with the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record violates 26 U.S.C. § 5861(d).

 

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And not one gun recovered and not one shot fired
O RLY 4:


SAMUEL FISHER a/k/a “Brad Holiday 13. Within the past approximately one week, an individual (“Individual-1”) contacted the FBI and provided information about certain photographs that Samuel FISHER, a/k/a “Brad Holiday,” the Target Subject, had recently posted to at least one Facebook account associated with FISHER. Individual-1 stated, in sum and substance, that the photographs appeared to depict FISHER in the vicinity of the U.S. Capitol on or about January 6, 2021, during the events described above. The photographs also appeared to depict FISHER holding at least one firearm. Individual-1 provided the FBI with screenshots of certain of the photographs in question, which I have reviewed. 14. In one of the photographs (“Photograph-1”), an individual subsequently identified as FISHER, as described below, is depicted in a large crowd in the vicinity of the U.S. Capitol. Based on my conversations with a U.S. Capitol Police Officer, who also reviewed Photograph-1, I believe that, when Photograph-1 was taken, FISHER was standing on the steps of the U.S. Capitol, unlawfully within a restricted area. In another of the photographs (“Photograph-2”), FISHER is depicted holding what appears to be a firearm in front of a flag that states, in sum and substance, “Don’t Tread on Trump, Keep America Great.” The caption of Photograph-2 states, in sum and substance, “Can’t wait to bring a liberal back to this freedom palace.” Screenshots of Photograph1 and Photograph-2 appear below. 5

 

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SAMUEL FISHER a/k/a “Brad Holiday 13. Within the past approximately one week, an individual (“Individual-1”) contacted the FBI and provided information about certain photographs that Samuel FISHER, a/k/a “Brad Holiday,” the Target Subject, had recently posted to at least one Facebook account associated with FISHER. Individual-1 stated, in sum and substance, that the photographs appeared to depict FISHER in the vicinity of the U.S. Capitol on or about January 6, 2021, during the events described above. The photographs also appeared to depict FISHER holding at least one firearm. Individual-1 provided the FBI with screenshots of certain of the photographs in question, which I have reviewed. 14. In one of the photographs (“Photograph-1”), an individual subsequently identified as FISHER, as described below, is depicted in a large crowd in the vicinity of the U.S. Capitol. Based on my conversations with a U.S. Capitol Police Officer, who also reviewed Photograph-1, I believe that, when Photograph-1 was taken, FISHER was standing on the steps of the U.S. Capitol, unlawfully within a restricted area. In another of the photographs (“Photograph-2”), FISHER is depicted holding what appears to be a firearm in front of a flag that states, in sum and substance, “Don’t Tread on Trump, Keep America Great.” The caption of Photograph-2 states, in sum and substance, “Can’t wait to bring a liberal back to this freedom palace.” Screenshots of Photograph1 and Photograph-2 appear below. 5


Not sure why you even try, dude is clearly brainwashed
 

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Not sure why you even try, dude is clearly brainwashed
It is important that people see the actual criminal complaints filed so that liars like Tfxhawk have zero credibility when peddling their lies.

His only recourse now is to attempt to paint some grand conspiracy theory, which I am quite sure will be his next move.

Reality has a way of interrupting and exposing liars like him, though.
 

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It is important that people see the actual criminal complaints filed so that liars like tfchawk have zero credibility when peddling their lies.

His only recourse now is to attempt to paint some grand conspiracy theory, which I am quite sure will be his next move.

Reality has a way of interrupting and exposing liars like him, though.

Cognitive dissonance
 
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O RLY 4:


SAMUEL FISHER a/k/a “Brad Holiday 13. Within the past approximately one week, an individual (“Individual-1”) contacted the FBI and provided information about certain photographs that Samuel FISHER, a/k/a “Brad Holiday,” the Target Subject, had recently posted to at least one Facebook account associated with FISHER. Individual-1 stated, in sum and substance, that the photographs appeared to depict FISHER in the vicinity of the U.S. Capitol on or about January 6, 2021, during the events described above. The photographs also appeared to depict FISHER holding at least one firearm. Individual-1 provided the FBI with screenshots of certain of the photographs in question, which I have reviewed. 14. In one of the photographs (“Photograph-1”), an individual subsequently identified as FISHER, as described below, is depicted in a large crowd in the vicinity of the U.S. Capitol. Based on my conversations with a U.S. Capitol Police Officer, who also reviewed Photograph-1, I believe that, when Photograph-1 was taken, FISHER was standing on the steps of the U.S. Capitol, unlawfully within a restricted area. In another of the photographs (“Photograph-2”), FISHER is depicted holding what appears to be a firearm in front of a flag that states, in sum and substance, “Don’t Tread on Trump, Keep America Great.” The caption of Photograph-2 states, in sum and substance, “Can’t wait to bring a liberal back to this freedom palace.” Screenshots of Photograph1 and Photograph-2 appear below. 5

Yeah but that's just....uh...the fed's opinion man...
 

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Cognitive dissonance
Right, on Tfxhawk's part. But others, including more thoughtful right leaning posters such as @Jan Itor and @Whiskeydeltadeltatango actually do adjust their beliefs based on actual evidence.

I like to encourage folks like that to keep an open mind. When you have dead-enders like Tfxhawk peddling their lies, however, the water can be muddied.

I mean, the guy actually tried to say there were NO GUNS RECOVERED from Jan. 6 rioters. That was easily disproved with a very cursory courtsonline search.
 
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O RLY?

Dumbass.

Texan armed with gun in Jan. 6 riot gets 7 years in prison, most of any rioter so far​

Guy Reffitt, 49, of Wylie, was the first Capitol rioter to be convicted at trial. Prosecutors said he played a “central role” by leading the mob to attack and breach the Capitol building.​

Supporters of former President Donald Trump climb the west wall of the the U.S. Capitol in...

Supporters of former President Donald Trump climb the west wall of the the U.S. Capitol in Washington as they storm the building on Jan. 6, 2021, while inside Congress prepared to affirm President-elect Joe Biden

A North Texas militia member who charged up the U.S. Capitol steps with body armor and a handgun while urging a violent mob forward has been given the longest prison sentence to date of any Jan. 6 rioter.

U.S. District Judge Dabney L. Friedrich, an appointee of former President Donald Trump, sentenced Guy Reffitt, of Wylie, to seven years and two months in prison on Monday in Washington, D.C., for his “central role” in the insurrection on Jan. 6, 2021, court records show.

The government asked for 15 years, arguing that Reffitt brought a gun to the Capitol, planned extensively for the attack, recruited others in the plot and brought flex cuffs to take lawmakers into custody.

Related:Son testifies against father from North Texas charged with storming Capitol

“He came to our nation’s capital with a plan to physically and violently remove the legislators, some of whom he threatened by name, from inside the Capitol building and take over the Congress,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeffrey Nestler said in a sentencing memorandum.

Prosecutors argued that the Wylie man’s behavior was deserving of a terrorism enhancement because even after the Capitol siege, he continued to plot additional violence and attacks against the government and major U.S. institutions like the media and the tech industry.



Kindly STFU and exit thread now. You've been proved a moron.
Lol. One person. Good lord it's like the storming of the beaches in Normandy

Idiot
 

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Holy hell.
Holy hell you told a story that is bulllshit. The fbi let this guy go that had direct involvement in bringing weapons to the January 6 overthrow of the government. He somehow told you about his guilt. I'm certain the fbi would let him go..

They let him go because he helped a cop getting a beating. Sure. That seems likely.

Full of shit story.
 

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It is important that people see the actual criminal complaints filed so that liars like Tfxhawk have zero credibility when peddling their lies.

His only recourse now is to attempt to paint some grand conspiracy theory, which I am quite sure will be his next move.

Reality has a way of interrupting and exposing liars like him, though.
You are the liar torbee. As usual.

Duffel bags of guns. Jesus what a bunch of bullshit

Yes someone placed pipe bombs. Who got arrested for that? No one.

Some people had a gun on them. Nothing about seized weapons from Oath Keepers to overthrow the government. Where is the stockpile? It doesn't exist.

This story from op the fbi just let a guy go that tells people he was there and had weapons to overthrow the government. And had a detailed plan to do so. The missing link to prosecute everyone and they just let him go.

Good lord man you suck as a journalist
 

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You are the liar torbee. As usual.

Duffel bags of guns. Jesus what a bunch of bullshit

Yes someone placed pipe bombs. Who got arrested for that? No one.

Some people had a gun on them. Nothing about seized weapons from Oath Keepers to overthrow the government. Where is the stockpile? It doesn't exist.

This story from op the fbi just let a guy go that tells people he was there and had weapons to overthrow the government. And had a detailed plan to do so. The missing link to prosecute everyone and they just let him go.

Good lord man you suck as a journalist
You suck as a human being. Full stop.

And you're dumb, to boot. Fun!