Stanley vs. Tate vs. Stanzi comparison from Soph years...

[BigOHawk]

Interesting inside the numbers I had to look up as I've heard the old narrative 'Iowa's QBs regress as they get older..." Time will tell but Big Nate is doing quite well vs. the gunslinger from Baytown. Two totally different teams based on Iowa having zero running game in '04 with the injuries and much more balanced today. '04 had an NFL defense on it.

Stanley through 8 games as true soph:
131/228, 57.5% comp rate, 1703 yards, 17 TD's and 4 INTs

Tate through 8 games as true soph:
150/235, 66% comp rate, 1710 yards, 11 TD's and 8 INTs

Stanzi through 8 games as true soph:
88/138, 63.7% comp rate, 1120 yards, 8 TD's and 4 INTs

What's crazy is check out Iowa's schedule through those same 8 games in 2004, it included Mich, Mich State, Penn State, OSU and a road game at ASU. Stanzi played against Wisky, Sparty and @PITT for comparison. Tate threw almost 100 more passes in his games, which makes sense as Brownlee was the RB. Stanley isn't far behind.

 

[Hawk_4shur]

Cool stuff. Thanks for digging that up.

I sure wouldn't have guessed that Stanley has thrown as many passes as Tate through 8 games, or that the yardage would be so close.

 

[The Sleeping Dog]

Good observation. We're back into a very similar offense to that in which Tate and Stanzi played. Both Rick and Drew played behind better lines and both had much better receivers than the current Hawks. Nate also has the most powerful arm of those three. If the O line play improves (and the Hawks are young) and the young receivers have some talent the next two seasons could see very impressive QB play.

 

[MWardT]

Good info. I think Stanley lacks the playmaking ability of Stanzi and Tate, and it shows in his lack of interceptions. Yes, Stanzi and Tate threw some interceptions, but those guys had an innate ability to make plays when needed.

 

[Ladell-hawk]

Good info. I think Stanley lacks the playmaking ability of Stanzi and Tate, and it shows in his lack of interceptions. Yes, Stanzi and Tate threw some interceptions, but those guys had an innate ability to make plays when needed.

Agreed, Stanley has done well, but needs to up his completion percentage, and do a better job of making plays with his legs to keep the chains moving. I couldn't believe it when we had a 3rd and 2 on our 2nd possession and he rolled out and threw it out of bounds . It looked he had plenty of open space to keep the ball and run for a first down. He needs to value each possession more than that! After that we had 3 and out on our next 5 possessions.

 

[I.C.Hawkeye]

How many of Stanley's interceptions have been the receivers fault? I know that the last one in Minn game was. I feel like there might have been another though that bounced out of the Iowa receivers hands into the defenses.

 

[BigOHawkfan]

Stanley doesn't get a lot of help, the number of drops this year isn't exactly helping his completion percentage.

 

[IAHWKGUY]

Agreed, Stanley has done well, but needs to up his completion percentage, and do a better job of making plays with his legs to keep the chains moving. I couldn't believe it when we had a 3rd and 2 on our 2nd possession and he rolled out and threw it out of bounds . It looked he had plenty of open space to keep the ball and run for a first down. He needs to value each possession more than that! After that we had 3 and out on our next 5 possessions.

If there was one play that stood out to me this past week, it was definitely this one. I thought the same. We just needed two yards and there was space, go fight for it. Rather he flung it out of bounds.

 

[BigOHawk]

How many of Stanley's interceptions have been the receivers fault? I know that the last one in Minn game was. I feel like there might have been another though that bounced out of the Iowa receivers hands into the defenses.

Well, I can think of the one in the Wyoming game that deflected off the WRs hands, not sure if bad throw or route, the one that ISM missed in the Rodent game and ISM and Stanley weren't on the same page in the NW game, so at least 2 of 4 are 50/50 bad route/throw. Yeah, look at the WRs on the 2004 and 2009 teams, wow..names like Mo Brown, McNutt, DJK, Hinkle, Solomon, etc..

 

[Dauminator]

Well, I can think of the one in the Wyoming game that deflected off the WRs hands, not sure if bad throw or route, the one that ISM missed in the Rodent game and ISM and Stanley weren't on the same page in the NW game, so at least 2 of 4 are 50/50 bad route/throw. Yeah, look at the WRs on the 2004 and 2009 teams, wow..names like Mo Brown, McNutt, DJK, Hinkle, Solomon, etc..

Mo Brown was awesome!

He was also done after 2003.

 

[Jonnymungo]

If there was one play that stood out to me this past week, it was definitely this one. I thought the same. We just needed two yards and there was space, go fight for it. Rather he flung it out of bounds.

Me too. I was screaming "run for it!!" "Run for it!!" Drives me crazy that Stanley doesn't run the ball more. Yes, I know the injury risk. I know you don't want QBs to take unnecessary risks but Nathan was a running QB in high school and is such a mountain of a man, he should be able to take a few hits while running the ball for some positive yardage during a game.

Maybe a QB draw, a designed roll out, a roll out with a run pass option (RPO), a needed scramble out of trouble to keep us out of 2nd/3rd and 10. I think it will be good for the offense predictability with at least the threat of a QB run once in awhile.

 

[IsaacHarrison]

I would like to see the stats after the OSU and Wisky games to get a better comparison. Also, would be interested in Team offensive stats those years.

 

[Etalicus]

the main diff from our current qb and those other two is simple.
They feed a fire on the offence didn't matter if they made mistakes the team craved to win and it showed.
Stats are nice some people have it and some dont. By this time next year we will know what Stanley truly has. Right now he doesn't

 

[Qued18]

Tate and Stanzi had better receivers and a better oline
Tate had no running game his soph.yr

I think Stanley will be better next yr..hope that line improves..good TE's and running game will be better