For those who are not satisfied. Could you enlighten me on what you expected? If you wanted him to be perfect at everything, then I understand your displeasure.
Stanley
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Is he Brad Banks? No....therefore we am disappoint.
I'm not disappointed. He's doing a good job. I do wish we could have a dual threat QB though.
My only disappointment is our staff burning his redshirt year for about 6 plays last year.
He's Young, needs to work on the deep ball. I'm satisfied and hopeful for the future.
While he's doing a decent job it would be great to finally see him hit the long balls. He also needs to learn when to put the zip on the ball and when not to. He has a cannon of an arm and it shows, but sometimes a little loft and not so much zing would be helpful. Overall for his first year he's doing a pretty good job.
If he starts for three years at a Power 5 program and has any success, yes.
If he stinks do you really want him to have that extra year?
Quick name all the 5 year QBs, that started four years, without a transfer year? There are none. If you start three year and are any good you go. Extra year be dammed. If he's not good that means an extra year of a blah QB which is gonna mean a blah season.
What if he is good enough to go pro but would want one more year to improve his draft stock and go in the 1st round to get a lot more guaranteed money? What if he wants a shot at the Heisman? Pulling a redshirt for 6 plays is beyond stupid, nomatter how you slice it.
Go ahead an list all the players in the last 15 years that applied too. How many stayed? Few. And for all the things you listed you can also fall down the draft board and get hurt. Hence why few come back when they have the chance for the third time.
It didn't matter whether he played six or zero plays. If he any good he's gone after year 4. If he's not, do you really want a not good player to stay around longer?
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The reason it is so rare is because most QB's are not in a position on the depth chart where they can start as a true sophomore, and the one's that do are usually very elite. Stanley is not starting because he's an elite QB that could likely go pro early. He's starting because he's slightly better than the servicable QB's behind him. He still needs time to develope, and burning that extra year is dumb.
And to your point, I would challenge you to name some QB's that chose to leave college early, that went in the 3rd round or later. Or even the 2nd round. It just doesn't happen much.
2017: DeShone Keizer, Brad Kaaya,
2016 Christian Hackenberg (2), Cardele Jones
2015: Brett Hundley
Quick go ahead and list, not even draft, list the five year senior, four year starter QBs out there that wen't transfers.
(edit to add, If your paragraph one is true I doubt he's gonna learn that much more in college staying for year 5. If he's not ready to go after starting 36 games than he's not very good. I don't get why so many want that fifth year for a marginal player)
If you want to look at numbers, he has been outstanding, especially for a 2nd year guy. His efficiency number is 149.3. Granted that will likely drop some as the season goes on, but that would put him in some very elite Iowa company. As best as I can tell, here are the top seasons in Kirk's era:
1. 157.6 - Stanzi 2010 Sr
2. 157.1 - Banks 2002 Sr
3. 149.3 - Stanley 2017 Soph
4. 146.4 - Tate 2005 Jr
5. 146.1 - McCann 2001 Sr
6. 139.5 - Beathard 2015 Jr
7. 138.5 - Vandenberg 2011 Jr
8. 134.8 - Stanzi 2008 Soph
9. 134.7 - Tate 2004 Soph
10. 133.5 - Rudock 2014 Jr
1. 157.6 - Stanzi 2010 Sr
2. 157.1 - Banks 2002 Sr
3. 149.3 - Stanley 2017 Soph
4. 146.4 - Tate 2005 Jr
5. 146.1 - McCann 2001 Sr
6. 139.5 - Beathard 2015 Jr
7. 138.5 - Vandenberg 2011 Jr
8. 134.8 - Stanzi 2008 Soph
9. 134.7 - Tate 2004 Soph
10. 133.5 - Rudock 2014 Jr
I agree in hindsight, but the staff didn't have the luxury of knowing whether or not Beathard would suffer an injury during the season when they made that call to play him or not. If he was good enough to be the clear #2, I think you have to go with it so he's reasonably ready if needed.
How stupid some are complaining about overthrowing the long ball... that's what is supposed to happen .. the opposite would be to underthrow it and risk interceptions. It's up to the receivers to make the plays . I would much rather see him play it safe than to force the ball. The touch will come with experience .
wow...you must not watch the game...obviously you've missed a lot
I can't believe how many lose their minds over a handful of overthrown deep balls.
There’s no way there’s another fan base in the country more obsessed with redshirting players than Iowa’s. It’s weird
How stupid is this post? Yeah that's the object to overthrow every long ball, wth.
I'm not 'losing my mind', but It's been more than a handful. But he is doing a good jobs in a lot of respects and hopefully he will improve.
Lol, you are supposed to overthrow the receivers. You're funny. You have to throw a ball that gives your receiver a chance to make a play on it. Everyone wants him to put more hang time on his long throws. Are you kidding me? Right now he's throwing punts and outkicking his coverage. He needs to use that strong arm and throw long balls like Rodgers and let the receivers make plays. Meerkat and Easley have shown numerous times they can make adjustments on the ball and ISM has shown he can go up and get it or lay out and get it. Give them a chance! I don't care if they're 50/50 balls, I think our kids will take it away. I still think he's a good QB, I just think he can be better when he figures that out.
What qbs don't understand, and Stanley in this case, is that in order to totally catch CBs and secondary off-guard, especially safeties and LBs is to bootleg out and then throw the ball in the opposite direction across the field since the defenders' momentum will give the receiver about 5 yds to make a play. Favre was well-known for this.
No, it's only been a "handful" 4-5 maybe 7-8 if you count the ones that receivers quit on their route or I guess more if you count overthrown when the receiver was covered. Many were talking about ALL the overthrows vs ISU. I reviewed the game. There were 4 but on 1 ISU was flagged for holding Fant. On another Fant slowed his route and missed by inches. So I only count 2 overthrows vs ISU, one to Fant and one to ISM.
Everything changes when he starts completing those balls over the top. The run game will open up for Wadley and Butler in the second half.
And he’ll never play qb in the nfl. Stanley has the prototype nfl body/measurables. Whether his game develops to match is a different question.
He has started off and on for 4 years. I don't think he started much, at all, as a sophomore.
He was injured as a sophomore. I believe he missed the last 3/4 games, and cardale Jones took over.
It will be interesting to see how is productivity evolves as the rest of the O grows around him. The blocking by our TEs is way below Iowa's standard ... however, that is to be expected given their youth. Our WR blocking has been below average too. Our OL blocking has ben subpar as well ... largely attributable to all the personnel juggling.
When all that blocking comes together ... guys like IKM, Toren, and Geil will be direct beneficiaries.
What happens when the passing game and running games are BOTH clicking on all cylinders? We've not seen that yet this year. Right now, we've been seeing defenses bet against the pass ... and they've been killing our running game. Next year, our passing game will be more consistent ... and, consequently, we won't need to lean on it as heavily. Consequently, because of greater offensive balance ... our passing game likely should be MORE productive. And, of course, going hand-in-hand with that ... the productivity of our running game should take several leaps forward as well.
Will his productivity be so great for him to leave after being a JR? Maybe .... but I somehow doubt it. I suspect that there is still plenty more that he could learn. Right now ... we're still seeing Stanley with "training wheels." As a JR ... there will be some bumps along the road ... because he will learn to handle things more without "training wheels." Then, like Beathard in '16 ... it will be Stanley's show when he's a SR. Unless he completely blows our minds in '18 ... I expect him back in '19.
to put what Stanley has done TD wise 1290 yards thru 6 games
Stanzi SO 1st year starting 14 TD's 1956 yards
CJ 1st full year as a starter in 2015 17 TD's 2809 yards14 games
JR SO 1st year starter 18 TD's 2383 yards
Tate SO 1st year starter 20 TD's 2786 yards
I have no idea in hades what you people want out of a SO QB in his 1st year of starting, especially when his top targets are these
JR JUCO transfer Easley who leads the team in receptions, yards and TD catches
SO TE Fant
RSFR TE Hochenson
FR WR Smith-Marsette
FR WR Brandon Smith
RSSR WR VandeBerg
Stanzi SO 1st year starting 14 TD's 1956 yards
CJ 1st full year as a starter in 2015 17 TD's 2809 yards14 games
JR SO 1st year starter 18 TD's 2383 yards
Tate SO 1st year starter 20 TD's 2786 yards
I have no idea in hades what you people want out of a SO QB in his 1st year of starting, especially when his top targets are these
JR JUCO transfer Easley who leads the team in receptions, yards and TD catches
SO TE Fant
RSFR TE Hochenson
FR WR Smith-Marsette
FR WR Brandon Smith
RSSR WR VandeBerg
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