Starting 5 for NCAA tourney
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PG....Gesell
SG....Jok
PF....Uthoff
SF....Uhl
C......Woody
SG....Jok
PF....Uthoff
SF....Uhl
C......Woody
MG
Baer
Jok
JU
Woody
Anyone but AC. Let AC come off the bench and play great like he did last year. Sit MG the final 3 minutes of each half.
Baer
Jok
JU
Woody
Anyone but AC. Let AC come off the bench and play great like he did last year. Sit MG the final 3 minutes of each half.
So Baer plays one good stretch of 4 minutes and all of a sudden he's starter caliber? Same for Wagner... I'm sorry but this lineup makes no sense. Woodbury has been one of our best and most consistent players this season.
wagner needs to take at least 15 of woody's minutes. Woody should be playing 25 minutes tops.
Woody may get some rebounds but he is a senior that can not make baskets. How many 10-15 foot shots has he hit this year? How many back to the basket moves has he made? He is relegated to wide open shots from 2 feet or diving to the basket on screen and rolls.
Woody may get some rebounds but he is a senior that can not make baskets. How many 10-15 foot shots has he hit this year? How many back to the basket moves has he made? He is relegated to wide open shots from 2 feet or diving to the basket on screen and rolls.
give it up.... it's a basketball message board. If proper english were a requirement in basketball, it would be in a sad state of affairs.
PG- Jok
SG- Jok
SF- Jok/JU
PF- JU
C-JU
Eff it, play 2 on 5.
SG- Jok
SF- Jok/JU
PF- JU
C-JU
Eff it, play 2 on 5.
Nah - they tried that against the 12th best team in the Big Ten and got beat.
PG - Williams
SG - Jok
SF - Baer
PF - Uthoff
C - Woodbury
SG - Jok
SF - Baer
PF - Uthoff
C - Woodbury
BirdistheWord
HB Legend
Yes mine was in no particular order. Changing the starting lineup is the only shot we have of winning some games in the NCAA tourney.
Yes we did but if we would have only had JU and Jok on the court we probably would have won! The other 3 blew it by being on the court!
I agree with benching Clemmons. My starting 5 would be:
Woodbury 5
Uthoff 4
Baer 3
Jok 2
Gessel 1
First person off the bench would be Wagner, Williams, Clemmons, Uhl
Woodbury 5
Uthoff 4
Baer 3
Jok 2
Gessel 1
First person off the bench would be Wagner, Williams, Clemmons, Uhl
PG....a blind monkey
SG....Jok
PF....Uthoff
SF....Betty White
C......a shoe
I say this is just as good as our regular line up.
SG....Jok
PF....Uthoff
SF....Betty White
C......a shoe
I say this is just as good as our regular line up.
Gesell
Clemmons
Jok
Uthoff
Woodbury
Nothing's gonna change. One and done in the tourney.
Clemmons
Jok
Uthoff
Woodbury
Nothing's gonna change. One and done in the tourney.
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anon_i8nzeu2gbf0ba
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How could any five do worse than the regular five have done the last several weeks? Loss after loss after loss until now there's nothing else to lose. But Fran will stubbornly stick with his guys and go down with the ship, which has been taking on water since Penn State. One and, mercifully, done, so that's reality.
But in a dream world where there is some accountability and effort is rewarded, the NCAA starters would be:
Jok
Uthoff
Wagner
Baer
Williams
I think that group would actually give Iowa a chance to win if they all played at least 30 minutes.
I think that group might come out with its hair on fire and act like they had some heart, like they enjoyed what they were doing, like they actually were willing to do whatever it took to win.
That's all I've ever asked of any Iowa team. Just play hard. This Iowa team--the regular starters--is softer than a Carver ice cream cone, and they have consistently shown about as much energy, enthusiasm, and effort as a cat on a sunny windowsill.
What a miserable finish to what had been a miracle season only moments ago. But then that's what they mean by "no guts, no glory."
But in a dream world where there is some accountability and effort is rewarded, the NCAA starters would be:
Jok
Uthoff
Wagner
Baer
Williams
I think that group would actually give Iowa a chance to win if they all played at least 30 minutes.
I think that group might come out with its hair on fire and act like they had some heart, like they enjoyed what they were doing, like they actually were willing to do whatever it took to win.
That's all I've ever asked of any Iowa team. Just play hard. This Iowa team--the regular starters--is softer than a Carver ice cream cone, and they have consistently shown about as much energy, enthusiasm, and effort as a cat on a sunny windowsill.
What a miserable finish to what had been a miracle season only moments ago. But then that's what they mean by "no guts, no glory."
Why is Williams all the sudden the savior? The kid is a unranked 3 star freshman who has barely played this year but because he had one game where he scored 8 points all of the sudden he is a starter who is gong to make Iowa start winning again? Come on people.
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anon_i8nzeu2gbf0ba
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David1979, you asked about Williams. Here's a short answer: Because he couldn't do worse than the other options. And he's a freshman. The other guys are seniors. And he has some natural ability the other options don't. That's about it. And, not to quibble or anything, but I don't recall anyone suggesting Williams would be a savior, only that it's time to give somebody else a chance. After all, the Soukup twins would likely do better than 2-22...or a random person from the 33rd row. Oh, yah, and then there's that thing about the 17 turnovers...
True up to the last 3 or 4 games, where the only thing he is contributing is rebounds. His supposed calling card, defense, has been noticebly lacking.
PG MG
SG AC
SF PJ
PF JF
C AW
The key is to pull and substitute early and often Uhl, Baer, Wagner and Williams.
Set starters down if they have no energy, drive, ambition or are sideways and off...
All of the bench and young guys have at times over the year showed they can deliver some energy and winning ways, give them a chance.... why not?
PS: In the meantime go to some pressure 3/4 quarter defense early in the game to spark the team when needed, do not wait until the last 2 or 3 minutes when way behind.
SG AC
SF PJ
PF JF
C AW
The key is to pull and substitute early and often Uhl, Baer, Wagner and Williams.
Set starters down if they have no energy, drive, ambition or are sideways and off...
All of the bench and young guys have at times over the year showed they can deliver some energy and winning ways, give them a chance.... why not?
PS: In the meantime go to some pressure 3/4 quarter defense early in the game to spark the team when needed, do not wait until the last 2 or 3 minutes when way behind.
You think Gesell is the savior? If you don't have a large enough sample to know by now u should move on. Williams should def get some minutes w the other starters. I'd like to see this group get some run:
Williams
Jok
Uhl
JU
Woody
He did not start on senior day last year vs NW. Gabe Olaseni got the start that one time.
I like where you're going with this.
Off the bench you could have: A tuna sandwhich subbing for the monkey, A ficus plant at center, Olympia Dukakis at SF(none of the other "Golden Girls" still living).
Oh, and maybe give Williams, Wagner, Baer, and Uhl a few token minutes.
Changes to the back court definitely need to be made, but its not going to happen till the season is completely over. Not in a million years with Fran at the helm. Btw, I bet the Soukop (sp?) twins could do a lot better than 2-20 shooting and make their ft's.
The problem is that MG, AC, and Woody are three of our best defenders, but three of our worst offensive players.
The starting lineup won't change, and that's not really what's important, but hopefully they are on the court allot less than usual.
I've defended them in the past but at this point they've blown just about every opportunity they've ever had.
Play them for the first 4 minutes and if they aren't playing significantly better on offense they should go to the bench and become subs.
The starting lineup won't change, and that's not really what's important, but hopefully they are on the court allot less than usual.
I've defended them in the past but at this point they've blown just about every opportunity they've ever had.
Play them for the first 4 minutes and if they aren't playing significantly better on offense they should go to the bench and become subs.
Also add a rule: Gesell and Clemmons can't both be on the court at same time.
We lost 6 of our last 7? The lone win vs Michigan, Uthoff carried the team and Michigan missed a ton of open looks from 3pt line.
Fran needs to grow a pair and find some bench time for Gesell/Clemmons/Woody. Agreed, you can't do worse or fold any more often.
Uhl starting on a D1 team? He doesn't deserve to start, let alone have a D1 scholarship.
CW
Jok
Baer
Wagner
Uthoff
This is are best lineup & not even close.
You have 2 6'6 guards instead of 2 6'1 guards.
Baer is a good shooter and hustles for 50/50 balls.
Wagner is a athletic beast and Uthoff can do a lot of dmg. inside and outside.
Jok
Baer
Wagner
Uthoff
This is are best lineup & not even close.
You have 2 6'6 guards instead of 2 6'1 guards.
Baer is a good shooter and hustles for 50/50 balls.
Wagner is a athletic beast and Uthoff can do a lot of dmg. inside and outside.
