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It’s not about assault rifles. It’s about guns in general
The subway dude used a regular gun, in a city with pretty strict gun laws.It’s not about assault rifles. It’s about guns in general
But if we reduce the availability of guns we reduce the opportunity for evil people to do evil things.The subway dude used a regular gun, in a city with pretty strict gun laws.
Evil people just don’t seem to follow laws. 😡
But if we reduce the availability of guns we reduce the opportunity for evil people to do evil things.
We should make it hard and expensive to own guns, both new and old.About the biggest thing I can think of that has a chance would be slowing down the process quite a bit for first time gun owners. Eliminating any impulsiveness, basically.
You won't knock out those that have had an active plan they've been working on for the past year or whatnot, though.
I’m not advocating for guns and more guns.But if we reduce the availability of guns we reduce the opportunity for evil people to do evil things.
So why don’t you link a liberal study to dispute the statistics?The Foundation for Economic Education (FEE) is an American conservative libertarian economic think tank.
Hard pass.
So why don’t you link a liberal study to dispute the statistics?
Libertarians are horrible? 😔 but they’re the best of both parties!Was I supposed to? Either way, libertarian think tanks are a no-go for me. Horrible people with clear agendas which are surprisingly also horrible in most cases.
Yes I am asking for you to link a source with the statistics that you feel has more accurate research.Was I supposed to? Either way, libertarian think tanks are a no-go for me. Horrible people with clear agendas which are surprisingly also horrible in most cases.
Yes I am asking for you to link a source with the statistics that you feel has more accurate research.
So give me your opinion on the Uvalde shooter situation.So why don’t you link a liberal study to dispute the statistics?
Agree but there is no way you reduce guns. Way too many out there. Even if you tried they would not be turned over. Have to find other solutions to this problem. Agree that it’s sickening school massacres happen. Have to find preventive controls that are out in place to every school. If that includes prison lockdown doors then do it. We spend more $ on stupid crap protect schools and children at all means necessary.But if we reduce the availability of guns we reduce the opportunity for evil people to do evil things.
If you're just looking at homicide rates? Then no. Most of those are with semi-automatic pistols. If you're looking at mass shootings, well, just look at the gun used in almost every one of them, especially the ones committed by young men.
Agree but there is no way you reduce guns. Way too many out there. Even if you tried they would not be turned over. Have to find other solutions to this problem. Agree that it’s sickening school massacres happen. Have to find preventive controls that are out in place to every school. If that includes prison lockdown doors then do it. We spend more $ on stupid crap protect schools and children at all means necessary.
I’m for that as well. Getting congress to do this may take another 5 school massacres to get their SH!t together.I mean sure, we're saturated with guns. But if takes a lot more effort to get one -- like going out on the black market instead of having to wait awhile and go through the effort needed to acquire legally -- then you may cut down on incidents not insignificantly.
I agree, however the majority of mass shootings occur in men under 21 with little to no actual firearm training. Let's increase minimum age of purchase for ALL semi-automatic handguns to 21. Sure, they can still use a shotgun, rifle, or revolver. Yes, those can still kill people and it won't stop ALL mass shootings. But if someone with little training has to figure out how to reload the shotgun or revolver during a high pressure shooting situation that's time for police or bystanders to intervene or get away.The question is whether or not those guns provide much additional ability to cause carnage or if they're just picked because they "look cool."
The gunman in Texas recently, for example, probably didn't gain anything by having an AR-15 over a semi-automatic handgun. But he felt like a bad ass and "looked cool"
Libertarians are horrible? 😔 but they’re the best of both parties!
I mean sure, we're saturated with guns. But if takes a lot more effort to get one -- like going out on the black market instead of having to wait awhile and go through the effort needed to acquire legally -- then you may cut down on incidents not insignificantly.
so punish the safe responsible gun owner?We should make it hard and expensive to own guns, both new and old.
We should make it expensive to manufacture guns.
The production and ownership of guns should reflect the cost of the violence guns create in our society.
So give me your opinion on the Uvalde shooter situation.
Scenario 1 - Free for all
He walks into a store, buys an AR-15 (same day purchase), walks out, drives to school and kills 19 children.
Scenario 2 - Some restrictions
He walks into a store and attempts to purchase an AR-15 but is told there is a 30-day waiting period. During the 30 days, maybe he decides not to shoot up kids in a school.
Scenario 3 - More restrictions
He walks into a store and attempts to purchase an AR-15 but is told he must be 21 AND there is a 30-day waiting period. During the 3 years, maybe he decides not to shoot up kids in a school.
Scenario 4 - Ban + restrictions
He walks into a store and attempts to purchase an AR-15 but is told they are illegal and he's not able to purchase. Asks to purchase a shotgun, but is told he must be 21 AND there is a 30-day waiting period. During the 3 years, maybe he decides not to shoot up kids in a school. BUT if he still must do this, now he has a pump action, 5 round shot gun and is taken out by law enforcement during reload. Only 3 kids die instead of 19.
NOTE: Yes, the shooter can acquire illegal guns, but that's assuming he knows how. I'm 48 and don't have a clue where to purchase an illegal fire arm.
If it makes children safer wouldn't responsible gun owners be all for it? No? Why not?so punish the safe responsible gun owner?
No. Once you've already owned guns, and haven't been a problem, acquiring more could be easier. Barrier to entry needs to be harder to weed out the idiots.so punish the safe responsible gun owner?
You left the part out where nobody died…The subway dude used a regular gun, in a city with pretty strict gun laws.
Evil people just don’t seem to follow laws. 😡
Agree but there is no way you reduce guns. Way too many out there. Even if you tried they would not be turned over. Have to find other solutions to this problem. Agree that it’s sickening school massacres happen. Have to find preventive controls that are out in place to every school. If that includes prison lockdown doors then do it. We spend more $ on stupid crap protect schools and children at all means necessary.
No.so punish the safe responsible gun owner?
I like my chances in a footrace against a dude with a knife. Dude with a gun? Not so much.I’m not advocating for guns and more guns.
The arrested individual’s attorney is hinting at mental issues on his clients behalf. I wonder if he would have gotten a knife or some sort of deadly weapon if a gun wasn’t available. That has definitely happened on the subway before.
How would this punish responsible gun owners?so punish the safe responsible gun owner?
I love this diagram. TBH this is why I think independently with no preset agenda. My circles are basically directly on top of each other.
Have you considered self defense training? I always LOL at the thought of someone bringing a weapon to fight with me. They’re basically just giving me a weapon.I like my chances in a footrace against a dude with a knife. Dude with a gun? Not so much.
Did the study mention that if the kid had a knife instead of an assault rifle, that the cops wouldn’t have waited 40 minutes outside of the school before entering? Because that’s 100% true.
Are you disarming people between you 130th and 131st post of the day pretty regularly?Have you considered self defense training. I always LOL at the thought of someone bringing a weapon to fight with me. They’re basically just giving me a weapon.
Banned for trolling but totally not a pathetic troll.I love this diagram. TBH this is why I think independently with no preset agenda. My circles are basically directly on top of each other.
It really sucks that we are the only country dealing with mental health issues.It’s a mental health issue, not a gun issue. We can make guns harder, if not impossible to get and unless we address the mental health of these potential killers, nothing will change but their method.