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Study shows executed inmates lungs filled with fluid before they died.

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Lethal injection was touted as a painless way to execute people. Almost like going to sleep. The truth may be that the condemned suffer great pain as the sentence Is carried out.
 
I am completely ignorant on this topic but if painless execution is the objective, isn’t morphine overdosing. known to accomplish this? also folks have been researching euthanasia forever...they must have painless death at the top of their requirements...
 
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Lethal injection was touted as a painless way to execute people. Almost like going to sleep. The truth may be that the condemned suffer great pain as the sentence Is carried out.

Lethal injection was never about being painless it was about being clean.

If we wanted a painless method of execution we would just go with blown from a cannon.


Our search for execution methods has always been about getting a cleaner more socially acceptable looking death. Not about getting the most painless method of death.
 
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Why not just put them in an enclosed room and let the CO2 build up? That is literally like just falling asleep.

Or pipe in some CO fumes.

Those seem pretty "humane".
 
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@Wendy79 I'm not sure how to interpret your "laugh" emoji.

Go on the record.

Do you support the Virginia bill allowing doctors to execute a human life 1 day before term if he or she determines the mother is in 'emotional distress?'

Follow up question, what woman isn't in emotional distress 1 day before giving birth? Anyone?
 
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(If reference to 2019 New York law change.)

The Facebook post oversimplifies and distorts what the New York law allows.

The Reproductive Health Act permits abortion after 24 weeks of pregnancy only if the mother’s life or health are threatened or if the fetus isn’t viable. The post doesn’t make clear significant restrictions still apply to the new law; rather, it gives the opposite impression.

We rate this post False.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-york-abortion-law-doesnt-let-mothers-abort-/
 
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(If reference to 2019 New York law change.)

The Facebook post oversimplifies and distorts what the New York law allows.

The Reproductive Health Act permits abortion after 24 weeks of pregnancy only if the mother’s life or health are threatened or if the fetus isn’t viable. The post doesn’t make clear significant restrictions still apply to the new law; rather, it gives the opposite impression.

We rate this post False.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-york-abortion-law-doesnt-let-mothers-abort-/

New York and Virginia are two different states. That post is in reference to an entirely different bill. Watch the video yourself. Don't need a fact check, use your own ears and eyes.
 
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(If reference to 2019 New York law change.)

The Facebook post oversimplifies and distorts what the New York law allows.

The Reproductive Health Act permits abortion after 24 weeks of pregnancy only if the mother’s life or health are threatened or if the fetus isn’t viable. The post doesn’t make clear significant restrictions still apply to the new law; rather, it gives the opposite impression.

We rate this post False.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-york-abortion-law-doesnt-let-mothers-abort-/

Besides, how ambiguous is this?

"only if the mother’s life or health are threatened"

Who decides if the mother's health is threatened? There are risks to taking a pregnancy to term which means any doctor can abort up to delivery. Yes or no?

If yes, how is that "False" as per the fact checker? Do they not understand the meaning of words? Are they intentionally trying to deceive their readers?
 
@Wendy79 I'm not sure how to interpret your "laugh" emoji.

Go on the record.

Do you support the Virginia bill allowing doctors to execute a human life 1 day before term if he or she determines the mother is in 'emotional distress?'

Follow up question, what woman isn't in emotional distress 1 day before giving birth? Anyone?

It's a law to allow parents and doctors to let the newborns die peacefully...basically hospice for newborns whose medical conditions are not compatible for life. They're not murdering babies.
 
I have no moral dilemma about executing a murderer. Especially, really bad guys like Jeffrey Dahmer (sp). With the percent of wrongly convicted, it needs to be saved for special cases.
 
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Why not just put them in an enclosed room and let the CO2 build up? That is literally like just falling asleep.

Or pipe in some CO fumes.

Those seem pretty "humane".

Dying of CO2 asphyxiation is actually pretty horrible. It’s like drowning.

Nitrogen asphyxiation is apparently the best way to go. Fall asleep with no pain. Carbon Monoxide can cause headaches or feeling ill, and takes longer.
 
I just want to go on record as saying that I support the death penalty in theory. In execution (pun kind of intended) however, it needs to go away unless we can get to 0% chance of executing innocent people.

I am of the belief we don't use the death penalty enough, but we sentence way to many people to it.
 
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Dying of CO2 asphyxiation is actually pretty horrible. It’s like drowning.

Nitrogen asphyxiation is apparently the best way to go. Fall asleep with no pain. Carbon Monoxide can cause headaches or feeling ill, and takes longer.

Thanks, Dr. Death.
 
Lethal injection was never about being painless it was about being clean.

If we wanted a painless method of execution we would just go with blown from a cannon.


Our search for execution methods has always been about getting a cleaner more socially acceptable looking death. Not about getting the most painless method of death.
Proponents want to sell that it’s clean and humane, so people don’t feel like savages.
 
The more pain, the better.
How does that relate to what the US Constitution says? How do you think a painful execution impacts those who carry out the sentence? I’ve heard anecdotal stories of prison staff struggling with carrying out the death penalty. Some states make allowances, but for many staff members they must carry out orders despite personal beliefs. Or, despite negative prior experiences executing someone.
 
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How does that relate to what the US Constitution says? How do you think a painful execution impacts those who carry out the sentence? I’ve heard anecdotal stories of prison staff struggling with carrying out the death penalty. Some states make allowances, but for many staff members they must carry out orders despite personal beliefs. Or, despite negative prior experiences executing someone.

That's why the firing squad is so brilliant. One shooter has a blank. No one knows if he fired the fatal shot or shot nothing at all.
 
(If reference to 2019 New York law change.)

The Facebook post oversimplifies and distorts what the New York law allows.

The Reproductive Health Act permits abortion after 24 weeks of pregnancy only if the mother’s life or health are threatened or if the fetus isn’t viable. The post doesn’t make clear significant restrictions still apply to the new law; rather, it gives the opposite impression.

We rate this post False.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-york-abortion-law-doesnt-let-mothers-abort-/

Supreme Court has ruled in the past that mental health is health.

“Im having panic attacks about having another baby.”
-36 week Snip
 
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