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Supreme Court rules taxpayers must financially support religious indoctrination

The overreaction to this one is head scratching. IF you make public money available for private schools you can't exclude them just because they're run by a church.

With that said, I haven't read far enough. Is the Christian school still required to follow state guidelines to receive the money?
 
The overreaction to this one is head scratching. IF you make public money available for private schools you can't exclude them just because they're run by a church.

You could however, exclude any professed "school" that was unable to meet government defined threshold requirements...
 
The overreaction to this one is head scratching. IF you make public money available for private schools you can't exclude them just because they're run by a church.

With that said, I haven't read far enough. Is the Christian school still required to follow state guidelines to receive the money?
Yes.
 
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Ruling that religious based schools have to be eligible for voucher programs.




Someone with a non-Christian kid needs to send their kid to one of these schools and REQUIRE them to teach their kid "Hinduism/Islam/Judaism/Etc"

If they won't, sue them for equal access/opportunity.

Schools will not be able to hide behind this façade, then.
 
The overreaction to this one is head scratching. IF you make public money available for private schools you can't exclude them just because they're run by a church.
You certainly can if they refuse to provide religious education in other religions.

Equal access. The government (e.g. schools) CANNOT favor any one religion, as as such, if a student asks to be educated in any other religion, then they either comply or they are in clear violation of the Establishment Clause.
 
The headline is a lie. They absolutely can deny public funds to religious private schools, by not funding any private schools.

They just can't provide funds to non-religious private schools and refuse it to religious private schools. They absolutely do not mandate that the government fund religious private schools, they just can't fund other private schools and discriminate against religious ones.
 
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The headline is a lie. They absolutely can deny public funds to religious private schools, by not funding any private schools.

They just can't provide funds to non-religious private schools and refuse it to religious private schools. They absolutely do not mandate that the government fund religious private schools, they just can't fund other private schools and discriminate against religious ones.
If they fund ANY religious ones, then those religious ones should be required to cater to ANY religion. Otherwise, you are discriminating against kids who do not belong to the religions "offered".
 
You certainly can if they refuse to provide religious education in other religions.

Equal access. The government (e.g. schools) CANNOT favor any one religion, as as such, if a student asks to be educated in any other religion, then they either comply or they are in clear violation of the Establishment Clause.

No. What you cannot do is provide money to a Christian school but not a Islamic school.

But this ruling does not require a religion-based school to teach all religions.
 
You certainly can if they refuse to provide religious education in other religions.

Equal access. The government (e.g. schools) CANNOT favor any one religion, as as such, if a student asks to be educated in any other religion, then they either comply or they are in clear violation of the Establishment Clause.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
 
The headline is a lie. They absolutely can deny public funds to religious private schools, by not funding any private schools.

They just can't provide funds to non-religious private schools and refuse it to religious private schools. They absolutely do not mandate that the government fund religious private schools, they just can't fund other private schools and discriminate against religious ones.
Taxpayer money should not go to religious schools for any reason. There’s a fundamental difference between a secular school and other schools.
 
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No. What you cannot do is provide money to a Christian school but not a Islamic school.

But this ruling does not require a religion-based school to teach all religions.

Rather, I suspect that there would be requirement for qualifying religious schools to not make any of their offered religious courses mandatory for voucher users...
 
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Taxpayer money should not go to religious schools for any reason. There’s a fundamental difference between a secular school and other schools.
I mean taxpayer money shouldn’t go to fund student loan forgiveness for couples that make a combined $299,000 annually for any reason, yet here we are by the end of the week. 🤷‍♂️
 
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If they fund ANY religious ones, then those religious ones should be required to cater to ANY religion. Otherwise, you are discriminating against kids who do not belong to the religions "offered".

I agree with you on a lot of stuff, but this is a tremendously flawed opinion.
 
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I'm actually ok with this. Sure, let's dumb down society more, but I cannot wait for the first time the Christian School crowd is up in arms and being their best Karens when they find out that a Muslim or Baptist school can siphon public money just as well as they can
 
Some of you might be surprised to know that people going to Notre Dame, any of the Loyola Universities, Baylor, Wake Forest, and so on, and so on, all have students using Pell Grants to pay for their tuition, books, etc.

Conceptually, this is no different, it's just at the state level.
 
Personally, I wish they'd just stop giving out vouchers to private schools all together.
A perfectly viable option though maybe not in Maine where I believe the court said that only about half of the recognized towns operate a school system due to their rural character.
 
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The overreaction to this one is head scratching. IF you make public money available for private schools you can't exclude them just because they're run by a church.

With that said, I haven't read far enough. Is the Christian school still required to follow state guidelines to receive the money?
Um well you should be able to and you used to be able to until this ruling. And the Maine law is very different than just giving all secular private schools vouchers. It deals with really rural areas where there wasn't a public school close.
 
If they fund ANY religious ones, then those religious ones should be required to cater to ANY religion. Otherwise, you are discriminating against kids who do not belong to the religions "offered".
What? No one is forcing anyone into any school, so as usual you are wrong. They are just saying you can't fund private schools and exclude religious private schools. If you don't agree with a particular religious viewpoint, don't send your kid to that school, problem solved. Would you send your kid to a charter school that is centered on engineering and then sue the school because they don't emphasize poetry?
 
What? No one is forcing anyone into any school, so as usual you are wrong. They are just saying you can't fund private schools and exclude religious private schools. If you don't agree with a particular religious viewpoint, don't send your kid to that school, problem solved. Would you send your kid to a charter school that is centered on engineering and then sue the school because they don't emphasize poetry?
That makes zero sense.
 
What? No one is forcing anyone into any school, so as usual you are wrong. They are just saying you can't fund private schools and exclude religious private schools. If you don't agree with a particular religious viewpoint, don't send your kid to that school, problem solved. Would you send your kid to a charter school that is centered on engineering and then sue the school because they don't emphasize poetry?
You are really asking Joe that question? Wait for it....
 
Rather, I suspect that there would be requirement for qualifying religious schools to not make any of their offered religious courses mandatory for voucher users...
Lol at Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Florida, etc doing that.
 
No. What you cannot do is provide money to a Christian school but not a Islamic school.

But this ruling does not require a religion-based school to teach all religions.
If public money is provided to a Christian school, then money needs to be provided for a non-Christian child to go to a non-Christian religious school. Either you teach ALL the religions or you teach NONE of them.

Anything else is a violation of the government "favoring" one religion, simply because it happens to be a "majority" religion.
 
Ruling that religious based schools have to be eligible for voucher programs.

You're dumb. Clearly says if vouchers are OK for some private schools they have to be allowed for all private schools - can't discriminate.
 
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If public money is provided to a Christian school, then money needs to be provided for a non-Christian child to go to a non-Christian religious school. Either you teach ALL the religions or you teach NONE of them.

Anything else is a violation of the government "favoring" one religion, simply because it happens to be a "majority" religion.
That's not it at all. You manage to twist everything. Parents get to choose the school. and the school has to meet the same state standards as all other schools. Nobody is being forced to go to any particular school. If a parent doesn't like the curriculum, they choose a different school.
 
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