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Supreme Court Won’t Block New Pennsylvania Voting Maps

cigaretteman

HR King
May 29, 2001
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Good. Gerrymandering is wrong whether it's done by Democrats or Republicans:

The Supreme Court rejected on Monday a second emergency application from Republican lawmakers in Pennsylvania seeking to overturn decisions from that state’s highest court, which had ruled that Pennsylvania’s congressional map had been warped by partisan gerrymandering and then imposed one of its own.

The ruling means a new map drawn by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court will very likely be in effect in this year’s elections, setting the stage for possible gains by Democrats. Under the current map, Republicans hold 12 seats while Democrats hold five and are expected to pick up another when the result of a special election last week is certified.

The latest application was denied by the full Supreme Court without comment or noted dissents.

In a terse ruling in January, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court struck down the state’s congressional map, saying that it “clearly, plainly and palpably” violated the state’s Constitution. The court told state lawmakers to redraw the state’s 18 House districts, which favored Republicans.

Pennsylvania Republicans asked the Supreme Court to block that ruling, but their request was rejected last month by Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr.

The Republican-controlled state legislature then drew a new map, but it was vetoed by Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat. The state court imposed a new map, prepared with the help of Nathaniel Persily, a Stanford law professor and an expert in legislative districting. The court said the map’s voting districts were not warped by politics and “follow the traditional redistricting criteria of compactness, contiguity, equality of population and respect for the integrity of political subdivisions.”

The denial of the latest application, like the denial of the earlier one, was unsurprising because the Pennsylvania court had based its rulings solely on the state Constitution. On matters of state law, the judgments of state supreme courts are typically final.

The Republican lawmakers in the Pennsylvania case argued that the United States Supreme Court could nonetheless step in, saying their case was partly governed by federal law. They pointed to Article I, Section 4 of the United States Constitution, which says that the times, places and manners of congressional elections “shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof.”


The lawmakers said the State Supreme Court had usurped the legislature’s role in violation of federal law. That argument did not appear to gain traction with Justice Alito.

In a brief urging the United States Supreme Court not to intercede, lawyers for Mr. Wolf wrote that there were practical reasons to let the state court’s rulings stand. “A stay at this point,” they wrote, “will force the congressional primaries to be rescheduled at an estimated cost of $20 million, or canceled entirely.”

Hours before the Supreme Court issued its order, a panel of three federal judges rejected a third and quite similar challenge to the State Supreme Court’s map from Republicans in Pennsylvania’s State Senate. The panel of two United States district judges and one federal court of appeals judge said the Republican senators did not have standing to sue.

While further court challenges are possible, Monday’s decisions make it very likely that this year’s congressional elections in Pennsylvania will be conducted using the new map, which will help Democrats.

The Supreme Court has been intensely engaged with the question of partisan gerrymandering, in which the party in power draws voting districts to give its candidates lopsided advantages, in cases this term from Wisconsin and Maryland. Those cases are appeals from decisions of federal courts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
 
What is truly disgusting is that the consensus is that the new map will allow Pennsylvanians to be more equitably represented in Congress. And the GOP is fighting tooth-and-nail against it. Think about it. There is no other even "pretend" reason to argue against this map. They simply want to have the voices of Pennsylvania voters to be ignored so they can enjoy a majority in Congress.
 
What is truly disgusting is that the consensus is that the new map will allow Pennsylvanians to be more equitably represented in Congress. And the GOP is fighting tooth-and-nail against it. Think about it. There is no other even "pretend" reason to argue against this map. They simply want to have the voices of Pennsylvania voters to be ignored so they can enjoy a majority in Congress.
Exactly the same situation in NC. and they're spending state $$ to defend their map. When it finally gets tossed the state GOP should be required to refund every penny they wasted.
 
Exactly the same situation in NC. and they're spending state $$ to defend their map. When it finally gets tossed the state GOP should be required to refund every penny they wasted.

Not exactly the same, NC is worse imo. They were much bolder in blatantly looking for ways to make it more difficult for blacks to vote. When you openly conduct a study of preferred voting methods by race, then target those methods favored by blacks, you really just feel you are not accountable to anybody.
 
I know quite a few people in NC, mainly around the Ft Bragg/Fayetteville area. 2-3 are people I'd consider really good friends. They are a lot like me, pretty religious, fairly conservative in a lot of ways and fairly liberal in a few others. They seem like left wing extremists compared to the average person in that area. There are a lot of people in that area that are convinced we need to go back 1850's version of pretty much everything and that Trump is the only person that can make it happen.

I've told the ones who I consider friends that I feel the need to shower every time I leave former CSA territory. They laugh, but admit it can be a bit annoying at times.
 
The fact that it was Alito that sent it back sends a strong message. Both sides of the court are in strong agreement against gerrymandering and I hope they remain consistent on all of these lawsuits, including the one in Maryland where Republicans are suing over their gerrymandered redistricting. Once the word is out we can expect lawsuits in just about every state and maybe we'll finally be on the road back to a government that actually gives a darn about the people. Of course, the bigger issue will be campaign financing but getting rid of gerrymandering is a start.
 
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The GOP feels the majority slipping away and they will fight tooth and nail. The "perfect storm", so to speak. An unpopular Prez, losing special elections, the normal loss of seats in a mid term, and general disgust over "protecting the rich" policies.

The next six months will be very entertaining.
 
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The fact that it was Alito that sent it back sends a strong message. Both sides of the court are in strong agreement against gerrymandering and I hope they remain consistent on all of these lawsuits, including the one in Maryland where Republicans are suing over their gerrymandered redistricting. Once the word is out we can expect lawsuits in just about every state and maybe we'll finally be on the road back to a government that actually gives a darn about the people. Of course, the bigger issue will be campaign financing but getting rid of gerrymandering is a start.

Not quite the same. SCOTUS stayed out of this one because it was a state constitutional issue.
 
The GOP in PA is trying to impeach judges who won't let them violate the Constitution.


That's a little worse than the Iowa Republicans proposing that a super majority of Justice be necessary to rule a law unconstitutional, but not much worse than Iowa Republicans attempting to defeat the Justices who legalized same sex marriage!
 
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