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eightno2002

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Bought a new Sony tv and Sony receiver. Existing surround sound left by prior homeowners, so I decided I’d reuse. Seems to work ok when watching cable or listening to music but when the ps5 is the input things get weird. During games, the entry screen where normally music would be played (think nba 2k) only the sub plays, no other speakers. If I play YouTube through the ps5, no sound at all. I’ve tried to adjust all the ps5 settings but I cannot get it figured out. Is there any audio/video studs out there that can set me straight?
 
Bought a new Sony tv and Sony receiver. Existing surround sound left by prior homeowners, so I decided I’d reuse. Seems to work ok when watching cable or listening to music but when the ps5 is the input things get weird. During games, the entry screen where normally music would be played (think nba 2k) only the sub plays, no other speakers. If I play YouTube through the ps5, no sound at all. I’ve tried to adjust all the ps5 settings but I cannot get it figured out. Is there any audio/video studs out there that can set me straight?
Do you have the HDMI from the PS5 going into one of the inputs into Receiver? and the Receiver HDMI out into the TV?
 
May need to change the setting's for the "Game" input on the receiver. Assuming you have a "Game" input you're using on Sony.
 
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May need to change the setting's for the "Game" input on the receiver. Assuming you have a "Game" input you're using on Sony.

it does have a game I put. I went through and changed the settings but ultimately the same issue persists.
 
Did you try through optical yet? Assuming PS5 still has it.
 
Try putting hdmi straight to TV and then hdmi from TV to receiver input
I wouldn't do that, I would have everything going into the receiver inputs if possible and the receiver output to the HDMI ARC input on the TV.

If you try as QC suggests, then just make sure to use the HDMI designated as ARC on the TV is the one you have the HDMI out from the receiver going into. Which actually you should make sure you have that anyway especially if you have a smart TV with say Netflix or Prime built into it.

If the cabling paths are all correct and the speakers are connected properly and the HDMI cables you are using are the correct version/compatible, then it should just be making sure the receiver settings and the PS5 settings are configured properly. And also just make sure the TV settings are pointed to going through surround sound as well.
 
I wouldn't do that, I would have everything going into the receiver inputs if possible and the receiver output to the HDMI ARC input on the TV.

If you try as QC suggests, then just make sure to use the HDMI designated as ARC on the TV is the one you have the HDMI out from the receiver going into. Which actually you should make sure you have that anyway especially if you have a smart TV with say Netflix or Prime built into it.

If the cabling paths are all correct and the speakers are connected properly and the HDMI cables you are using are the correct version/compatible, then it should just be making sure the receiver settings and the PS5 settings are configured properly. And also just make sure the TV settings are pointed to going through surround sound as well.
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Getting old is no fun.
 
Maybe run coax from tv to flux capacitor. Then HDMI from FC to steam engine. Knock on floor three times. Then, Head to the bathroom and chant “blood mary” in front mirror. Followed by crackin a beer… spill some out for those that came before you; chug the remaining beer. Next, Catch a squirel and throw it at your wife…


should fix the issue
 
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I once was a Sony surround sound receiver snob, owning 4 different ES models from the early to mid 00's. I can tell you from experience that there's a reason why I switched to Yamaha receivers.

Sony's...it's not that they don't "function" so much as that they are extremely quirky with menu settings "logic" to where they can infuriate you to no end to get it to just play the damn content.

That all being said, I know their "menu logic" quite well, and highly doubt much has changed. Sony, like any old school company...is resistant to change.

So...I bet I can help. My questions are as follows.

1) Are you saying the surround speakers and subwoofer are leftovers from the prior owner? And if so...

............1a) what is the speaker setup, meaning - are we talking about a 5.1, 6.1, or 7.1 speaker, etc setup? Reason I ask is to eliminate whether you have all speakers hooked up correct speaker to receiver. Whatever the setup, you first and foremost must make sure you have all your speakers set up to the correct places on the back of the receiver. I am assuming, you've confirmed you have them all hooked up correct.

But, humor me. What setup do you have? It could be important later.

2) What is the receiver model number please?

3) I am assuming you have hooked HDMI directly from the PS5 to the receiver, then an HDMI from the receiver to the TV. And also, this is exactly how you also have your cable box hooked up.

4) when you say "music", what are we talking about, what is/are the music source(s) and how are they hooked up to the receiver?


Here are my initial thoughts. Most video games, the initial splash (load) screen content is NOT going to be in a particular surround sound format other than stereo PCM (2 channel) - only when you actually begin playing the game will the fancy surround sound formats kick in.

Then, most Youtube content is also in stereo PCM format. Not all apps actually have for example Dolby Digital sound formats.

So...the reason why I state these (I don't own a PS5...just going from past game consoles I've owned and used and how they operated from a sound perspective) as being highly probable is the following.

You (most likely) have to tell the PS5 in the settings menu of the console itself how to handle all sound formats. There should be settings (per the Playstation website) where you HAVE to tell the PS5 whether you're using a receiver or not, then how many channels (therefore speakers) your receiver is using.


Notice this paragraph...

"Audio Format (Priority)
Set the audio output format to use for games and for video apps.

Available settings may vary depending on your devices and audio settings configuration."

What that tells me is you have to define what formats you want the PS5 to output in some fashion...meaning, you have to tell it how to decode and PASS THROUGH whatever audio content is present TO your receiver - whether you are using an app or playing a game.

Next...you then have to in the receiver settings tell IT what to do with whatever you're sending to it no matter the input. The receiver will have "global" decoding settings for things such as stereo signals (matrix it into various Dolby Pro Logic or DTS formats, or simply leave it in 2 channel stereo). But you probably will also have settings as far as what to do with DD or DTS formats - I usually would tell my Sony's to "auto-decode" those.


Now...here's where shit gets confusing. You also have to set up the receiver from a speaker setup perspective what it should do when (for example) you may be feeding more channels from a source (such as a PS5, or BD player, etc) than what you have set up for speaker setups. Meaning...say you have a front main/center/rears + sub speaker setup - a traditional 5.1 setup. You have to tell the receiver how to treat say a 7.1 signal (or maybe one of those newer fancy shmancy Dolby formats I haven't had the pleasure of dealing with yet).

Then of course, you'll have to set up the speakers themselves with the receiver - large/small, which speakers you actually have hooked up, etc. Then levels of output for each, etc. Some receivers also will make you tell it where each input is getting the audio from (meaning, is the audio being sent from somposite stereo, optical/coaxial digital inputs, or ONLY HDMI). Make sure all those are set up correct.


Confused yet????


So...my advice is first, work with the PS5. Make things simple. Set up the PS5 to match your speaker configuration before ANYTHING ELSE. If you have a 5.1 speaker system hooked up, set up the PS5 to where it knows that. Then, all you want the PS5 to do otherwise is to pass through all other audio as it is on the disc or app. LET YOUR RECEIVER DO ALL THE DECODING. So...tell the PS5 to output stereo signals as stereo, then to pass through everything else as is.

THEN - if your Sony receiver is any kind of pimpin' newfangled receiver worth it's money spent - it should have a way to view the audio signal either on screen menu wise, or in the viewing panel on the front of the receiver. Look in your receiver owner's manual how to do BOTH of these.

Most Sony receivers I know of will at the very least have decoding information icons on the front panel that'll tell you what type of audio signal is being sent. Pimpin' receivers will have a way to view audio and video signals via some sort of on screen menu.

Only that way will you know what you are truly sending from the PS5 to your receiver. If the PS5 is "doing its job" and sending everything it can send in its original format - then it is a matter of figuring out ONLY the receiver menu setups to where your surround sound will decode and process properly to where you begin getting sound output the way you want it to.

My hunch is, assuming everything is hooked up correct wiring wise - that the PS5 and receiver aren't in sync from a decoding settings standpoint. The games "sub only outputting sound"...something there tells me there's a setting for LFE signals fouled up there involving small to large speakers and whether you want the receiver to send LFE to the sub only, sub and fronts, or not at all...something strange like that. Hard to say really.


So, help ME out here. What Sony receiver model number we talking about here? I know the Sony Support website by memory, I've downloaded so many manuals from it...maybe I can lead you into specific settings to check as a baseline setup before anything else.
 
Bought a new Sony tv and Sony receiver. Existing surround sound left by prior homeowners, so I decided I’d reuse. Seems to work ok when watching cable or listening to music but when the ps5 is the input things get weird. During games, the entry screen where normally music would be played (think nba 2k) only the sub plays, no other speakers. If I play YouTube through the ps5, no sound at all. I’ve tried to adjust all the ps5 settings but I cannot get it figured out. Is there any audio/video studs out there that can set me straight?

What model TV and Receiver did you buy?
 
I once was a Sony surround sound receiver snob, owning 4 different ES models from the early to mid 00's. I can tell you from experience that there's a reason why I switched to Yamaha receivers.

Sony's...it's not that they don't "function" so much as that they are extremely quirky with menu settings "logic" to where they can infuriate you to no end to get it to just play the damn content.

That all being said, I know their "menu logic" quite well, and highly doubt much has changed. Sony, like any old school company...is resistant to change.

So...I bet I can help. My questions are as follows.

1) Are you saying the surround speakers and subwoofer are leftovers from the prior owner? And if so...

............1a) what is the speaker setup, meaning - are we talking about a 5.1, 6.1, or 7.1 speaker, etc setup? Reason I ask is to eliminate whether you have all speakers hooked up correct speaker to receiver. Whatever the setup, you first and foremost must make sure you have all your speakers set up to the correct places on the back of the receiver. I am assuming, you've confirmed you have them all hooked up correct.

But, humor me. What setup do you have? It could be important later.

2) What is the receiver model number please?

3) I am assuming you have hooked HDMI directly from the PS5 to the receiver, then an HDMI from the receiver to the TV. And also, this is exactly how you also have your cable box hooked up.

4) when you say "music", what are we talking about, what is/are the music source(s) and how are they hooked up to the receiver?


Here are my initial thoughts. Most video games, the initial splash (load) screen content is NOT going to be in a particular surround sound format other than stereo PCM (2 channel) - only when you actually begin playing the game will the fancy surround sound formats kick in.

Then, most Youtube content is also in stereo PCM format. Not all apps actually have for example Dolby Digital sound formats.

So...the reason why I state these (I don't own a PS5...just going from past game consoles I've owned and used and how they operated from a sound perspective) as being highly probable is the following.

You (most likely) have to tell the PS5 in the settings menu of the console itself how to handle all sound formats. There should be settings (per the Playstation website) where you HAVE to tell the PS5 whether you're using a receiver or not, then how many channels (therefore speakers) your receiver is using.


Notice this paragraph...

"Audio Format (Priority)
Set the audio output format to use for games and for video apps.

Available settings may vary depending on your devices and audio settings configuration."

What that tells me is you have to define what formats you want the PS5 to output in some fashion...meaning, you have to tell it how to decode and PASS THROUGH whatever audio content is present TO your receiver - whether you are using an app or playing a game.

Next...you then have to in the receiver settings tell IT what to do with whatever you're sending to it no matter the input. The receiver will have "global" decoding settings for things such as stereo signals (matrix it into various Dolby Pro Logic or DTS formats, or simply leave it in 2 channel stereo). But you probably will also have settings as far as what to do with DD or DTS formats - I usually would tell my Sony's to "auto-decode" those.


Now...here's where shit gets confusing. You also have to set up the receiver from a speaker setup perspective what it should do when (for example) you may be feeding more channels from a source (such as a PS5, or BD player, etc) than what you have set up for speaker setups. Meaning...say you have a front main/center/rears + sub speaker setup - a traditional 5.1 setup. You have to tell the receiver how to treat say a 7.1 signal (or maybe one of those newer fancy shmancy Dolby formats I haven't had the pleasure of dealing with yet).

Then of course, you'll have to set up the speakers themselves with the receiver - large/small, which speakers you actually have hooked up, etc. Then levels of output for each, etc. Some receivers also will make you tell it where each input is getting the audio from (meaning, is the audio being sent from somposite stereo, optical/coaxial digital inputs, or ONLY HDMI). Make sure all those are set up correct.


Confused yet????


So...my advice is first, work with the PS5. Make things simple. Set up the PS5 to match your speaker configuration before ANYTHING ELSE. If you have a 5.1 speaker system hooked up, set up the PS5 to where it knows that. Then, all you want the PS5 to do otherwise is to pass through all other audio as it is on the disc or app. LET YOUR RECEIVER DO ALL THE DECODING. So...tell the PS5 to output stereo signals as stereo, then to pass through everything else as is.

THEN - if your Sony receiver is any kind of pimpin' newfangled receiver worth it's money spent - it should have a way to view the audio signal either on screen menu wise, or in the viewing panel on the front of the receiver. Look in your receiver owner's manual how to do BOTH of these.

Most Sony receivers I know of will at the very least have decoding information icons on the front panel that'll tell you what type of audio signal is being sent. Pimpin' receivers will have a way to view audio and video signals via some sort of on screen menu.

Only that way will you know what you are truly sending from the PS5 to your receiver. If the PS5 is "doing its job" and sending everything it can send in its original format - then it is a matter of figuring out ONLY the receiver menu setups to where your surround sound will decode and process properly to where you begin getting sound output the way you want it to.

My hunch is, assuming everything is hooked up correct wiring wise - that the PS5 and receiver aren't in sync from a decoding settings standpoint. The games "sub only outputting sound"...something there tells me there's a setting for LFE signals fouled up there involving small to large speakers and whether you want the receiver to send LFE to the sub only, sub and fronts, or not at all...something strange like that. Hard to say really.


So, help ME out here. What Sony receiver model number we talking about here? I know the Sony Support website by memory, I've downloaded so many manuals from it...maybe I can lead you into specific settings to check as a baseline setup before anything else.

dude, this is intense. But I like it. I’ll get back to you soon. Its 5 am and I need coffee first.
 
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I once was a Sony surround sound receiver snob, owning 4 different ES models from the early to mid 00's. I can tell you from experience that there's a reason why I switched to Yamaha receivers.

Sony's...it's not that they don't "function" so much as that they are extremely quirky with menu settings "logic" to where they can infuriate you to no end to get it to just play the damn content.

That all being said, I know their "menu logic" quite well, and highly doubt much has changed. Sony, like any old school company...is resistant to change.

So...I bet I can help. My questions are as follows.

1) Are you saying the surround speakers and subwoofer are leftovers from the prior owner? And if so...

............1a) what is the speaker setup, meaning - are we talking about a 5.1, 6.1, or 7.1 speaker, etc setup? Reason I ask is to eliminate whether you have all speakers hooked up correct speaker to receiver. Whatever the setup, you first and foremost must make sure you have all your speakers set up to the correct places on the back of the receiver. I am assuming, you've confirmed you have them all hooked up correct.

But, humor me. What setup do you have? It could be important later.

2) What is the receiver model number please?

3) I am assuming you have hooked HDMI directly from the PS5 to the receiver, then an HDMI from the receiver to the TV. And also, this is exactly how you also have your cable box hooked up.

4) when you say "music", what are we talking about, what is/are the music source(s) and how are they hooked up to the receiver?


Here are my initial thoughts. Most video games, the initial splash (load) screen content is NOT going to be in a particular surround sound format other than stereo PCM (2 channel) - only when you actually begin playing the game will the fancy surround sound formats kick in.

Then, most Youtube content is also in stereo PCM format. Not all apps actually have for example Dolby Digital sound formats.

So...the reason why I state these (I don't own a PS5...just going from past game consoles I've owned and used and how they operated from a sound perspective) as being highly probable is the following.

You (most likely) have to tell the PS5 in the settings menu of the console itself how to handle all sound formats. There should be settings (per the Playstation website) where you HAVE to tell the PS5 whether you're using a receiver or not, then how many channels (therefore speakers) your receiver is using.


Notice this paragraph...

"Audio Format (Priority)
Set the audio output format to use for games and for video apps.

Available settings may vary depending on your devices and audio settings configuration."

What that tells me is you have to define what formats you want the PS5 to output in some fashion...meaning, you have to tell it how to decode and PASS THROUGH whatever audio content is present TO your receiver - whether you are using an app or playing a game.

Next...you then have to in the receiver settings tell IT what to do with whatever you're sending to it no matter the input. The receiver will have "global" decoding settings for things such as stereo signals (matrix it into various Dolby Pro Logic or DTS formats, or simply leave it in 2 channel stereo). But you probably will also have settings as far as what to do with DD or DTS formats - I usually would tell my Sony's to "auto-decode" those.


Now...here's where shit gets confusing. You also have to set up the receiver from a speaker setup perspective what it should do when (for example) you may be feeding more channels from a source (such as a PS5, or BD player, etc) than what you have set up for speaker setups. Meaning...say you have a front main/center/rears + sub speaker setup - a traditional 5.1 setup. You have to tell the receiver how to treat say a 7.1 signal (or maybe one of those newer fancy shmancy Dolby formats I haven't had the pleasure of dealing with yet).

Then of course, you'll have to set up the speakers themselves with the receiver - large/small, which speakers you actually have hooked up, etc. Then levels of output for each, etc. Some receivers also will make you tell it where each input is getting the audio from (meaning, is the audio being sent from somposite stereo, optical/coaxial digital inputs, or ONLY HDMI). Make sure all those are set up correct.


Confused yet????


So...my advice is first, work with the PS5. Make things simple. Set up the PS5 to match your speaker configuration before ANYTHING ELSE. If you have a 5.1 speaker system hooked up, set up the PS5 to where it knows that. Then, all you want the PS5 to do otherwise is to pass through all other audio as it is on the disc or app. LET YOUR RECEIVER DO ALL THE DECODING. So...tell the PS5 to output stereo signals as stereo, then to pass through everything else as is.

THEN - if your Sony receiver is any kind of pimpin' newfangled receiver worth it's money spent - it should have a way to view the audio signal either on screen menu wise, or in the viewing panel on the front of the receiver. Look in your receiver owner's manual how to do BOTH of these.

Most Sony receivers I know of will at the very least have decoding information icons on the front panel that'll tell you what type of audio signal is being sent. Pimpin' receivers will have a way to view audio and video signals via some sort of on screen menu.

Only that way will you know what you are truly sending from the PS5 to your receiver. If the PS5 is "doing its job" and sending everything it can send in its original format - then it is a matter of figuring out ONLY the receiver menu setups to where your surround sound will decode and process properly to where you begin getting sound output the way you want it to.

My hunch is, assuming everything is hooked up correct wiring wise - that the PS5 and receiver aren't in sync from a decoding settings standpoint. The games "sub only outputting sound"...something there tells me there's a setting for LFE signals fouled up there involving small to large speakers and whether you want the receiver to send LFE to the sub only, sub and fronts, or not at all...something strange like that. Hard to say really.


So, help ME out here. What Sony receiver model number we talking about here? I know the Sony Support website by memory, I've downloaded so many manuals from it...maybe I can lead you into specific settings to check as a baseline setup before anything else.
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dude, this is intense. But I like it. I’ll get back to you soon. Its 5 am and I need coffee first.

Oh, I knew for certain I was going to overwhelm you with all this. It took me (no shit) a couple months until I figured out how everything worked together...it was a massive learning and experimentation process.

Every rig is like that. Every damn one. The technology and formats are ever changing, which doesn't help. Hell, with my current Yamaha receivers, the owner's manuals for them have some 130 pages that deal with solely setting them up. HUNDREDS of settings....and they're 13 damn years old!

Every surround sound receiver I've ever owned, at some point I have to set aside a day where I literally have the owner's manual(s) at my side, with the remote controls beside me, and go through EVERY setting one by one with every specific input component playing - just to see what the receiver does with the audio.

This stuff really is daunting. Getting everything to "handshake" without issues. You'll get it all sorted out...just takes patience, research, and testing. And I can help with that...I cut my surround sound teeth with Sony ES. Knowing Sony circa 2021, chances are the same issues I went through in the 2000's are the same issues you're having - sorting through their receiver/component setup menus while deciphering their somewhat cryptic owner's manuals to get the answers you need.
 
Oh, I knew for certain I was going to overwhelm you with all this. It took me (no shit) a couple months until I figured out how everything worked together...it was a massive learning and experimentation process.

Every rig is like that. Every damn one. The technology and formats are ever changing, which doesn't help. Hell, with my current Yamaha receivers, the owner's manuals for them have some 130 pages that deal with solely setting them up. HUNDREDS of settings....and they're 13 damn years old!

Every surround sound receiver I've ever owned, at some point I have to set aside a day where I literally have the owner's manual(s) at my side, with the remote controls beside me, and go through EVERY setting one by one with every specific input component playing - just to see what the receiver does with the audio.

This stuff really is daunting. Getting everything to "handshake" without issues. You'll get it all sorted out...just takes patience, research, and testing. And I can help with that...I cut my surround sound teeth with Sony ES. Knowing Sony circa 2021, chances are the same issues I went through in the 2000's are the same issues you're having - sorting through their receiver/component setup menus while deciphering their somewhat cryptic owner's manuals to get the answers you need.

this will be my evening project. I’m more convinced it’s a wiring issue as certain shows on Netflix have no sound but muffled base. My kids fortnight you can hear the rear footsteps, etc but not the firing of your own weapon. The only time it sounds “normal” is playing music from the radio. I was just going to buy an atmos soundbar but stupid me thought the surround sound would be simple.
 
this will be my evening project. I’m more convinced it’s a wiring issue as certain shows on Netflix have no sound but muffled base. My kids fortnight you can hear the rear footsteps, etc but not the firing of your own weapon. The only time it sounds “normal” is playing music from the radio. I was just going to buy an atmos soundbar but stupid me thought the surround sound would be simple.

Yeah...the "no sound except the sub" kinda makes me think that maybe the fronts are surrounds are switched around. When checking that, make darn sure you got your positives and negatives all in order for every speaker too.

Also obviously make sure the sub composite cable is in the correct jack on the receiver and sub - then I usually for most all powered subs I set up the sub's crossover dial to max out frequency-wise, then have the receiver do the crossover setting and sub volume. Lastly with the receiver, set the sub dynamic compression setting to zero or off (all these should be in the speaker setup settings menus on the receiver).

BTW I have never, ever heard a soundbar I liked. Yes, there are good soundbars and bad soundbars...but in the end, they're still soundbars, which to me are just glorified TV speakers.

"The install" is pretty much everything - meaning getting the cabling and wiring done correct. Get that right and usually everything else eventually falls into place.
 
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I once was a Sony surround sound receiver snob, owning 4 different ES models from the early to mid 00's. I can tell you from experience that there's a reason why I switched to Yamaha receivers.

Sony's...it's not that they don't "function" so much as that they are extremely quirky with menu settings "logic" to where they can infuriate you to no end to get it to just play the damn content.

That all being said, I know their "menu logic" quite well, and highly doubt much has changed. Sony, like any old school company...is resistant to change.

So...I bet I can help. My questions are as follows.

1) Are you saying the surround speakers and subwoofer are leftovers from the prior owner? And if so...

............1a) what is the speaker setup, meaning - are we talking about a 5.1, 6.1, or 7.1 speaker, etc setup? Reason I ask is to eliminate whether you have all speakers hooked up correct speaker to receiver. Whatever the setup, you first and foremost must make sure you have all your speakers set up to the correct places on the back of the receiver. I am assuming, you've confirmed you have them all hooked up correct.

But, humor me. What setup do you have? It could be important later.

2) What is the receiver model number please?

3) I am assuming you have hooked HDMI directly from the PS5 to the receiver, then an HDMI from the receiver to the TV. And also, this is exactly how you also have your cable box hooked up.

4) when you say "music", what are we talking about, what is/are the music source(s) and how are they hooked up to the receiver?


Here are my initial thoughts. Most video games, the initial splash (load) screen content is NOT going to be in a particular surround sound format other than stereo PCM (2 channel) - only when you actually begin playing the game will the fancy surround sound formats kick in.

Then, most Youtube content is also in stereo PCM format. Not all apps actually have for example Dolby Digital sound formats.

So...the reason why I state these (I don't own a PS5...just going from past game consoles I've owned and used and how they operated from a sound perspective) as being highly probable is the following.

You (most likely) have to tell the PS5 in the settings menu of the console itself how to handle all sound formats. There should be settings (per the Playstation website) where you HAVE to tell the PS5 whether you're using a receiver or not, then how many channels (therefore speakers) your receiver is using.


Notice this paragraph...

"Audio Format (Priority)
Set the audio output format to use for games and for video apps.

Available settings may vary depending on your devices and audio settings configuration."

What that tells me is you have to define what formats you want the PS5 to output in some fashion...meaning, you have to tell it how to decode and PASS THROUGH whatever audio content is present TO your receiver - whether you are using an app or playing a game.

Next...you then have to in the receiver settings tell IT what to do with whatever you're sending to it no matter the input. The receiver will have "global" decoding settings for things such as stereo signals (matrix it into various Dolby Pro Logic or DTS formats, or simply leave it in 2 channel stereo). But you probably will also have settings as far as what to do with DD or DTS formats - I usually would tell my Sony's to "auto-decode" those.


Now...here's where shit gets confusing. You also have to set up the receiver from a speaker setup perspective what it should do when (for example) you may be feeding more channels from a source (such as a PS5, or BD player, etc) than what you have set up for speaker setups. Meaning...say you have a front main/center/rears + sub speaker setup - a traditional 5.1 setup. You have to tell the receiver how to treat say a 7.1 signal (or maybe one of those newer fancy shmancy Dolby formats I haven't had the pleasure of dealing with yet).

Then of course, you'll have to set up the speakers themselves with the receiver - large/small, which speakers you actually have hooked up, etc. Then levels of output for each, etc. Some receivers also will make you tell it where each input is getting the audio from (meaning, is the audio being sent from somposite stereo, optical/coaxial digital inputs, or ONLY HDMI). Make sure all those are set up correct.


Confused yet????


So...my advice is first, work with the PS5. Make things simple. Set up the PS5 to match your speaker configuration before ANYTHING ELSE. If you have a 5.1 speaker system hooked up, set up the PS5 to where it knows that. Then, all you want the PS5 to do otherwise is to pass through all other audio as it is on the disc or app. LET YOUR RECEIVER DO ALL THE DECODING. So...tell the PS5 to output stereo signals as stereo, then to pass through everything else as is.

THEN - if your Sony receiver is any kind of pimpin' newfangled receiver worth it's money spent - it should have a way to view the audio signal either on screen menu wise, or in the viewing panel on the front of the receiver. Look in your receiver owner's manual how to do BOTH of these.

Most Sony receivers I know of will at the very least have decoding information icons on the front panel that'll tell you what type of audio signal is being sent. Pimpin' receivers will have a way to view audio and video signals via some sort of on screen menu.

Only that way will you know what you are truly sending from the PS5 to your receiver. If the PS5 is "doing its job" and sending everything it can send in its original format - then it is a matter of figuring out ONLY the receiver menu setups to where your surround sound will decode and process properly to where you begin getting sound output the way you want it to.

My hunch is, assuming everything is hooked up correct wiring wise - that the PS5 and receiver aren't in sync from a decoding settings standpoint. The games "sub only outputting sound"...something there tells me there's a setting for LFE signals fouled up there involving small to large speakers and whether you want the receiver to send LFE to the sub only, sub and fronts, or not at all...something strange like that. Hard to say really.


So, help ME out here. What Sony receiver model number we talking about here? I know the Sony Support website by memory, I've downloaded so many manuals from it...maybe I can lead you into specific settings to check as a baseline setup before anything else.
Preach.
 
Yeah...the "no sound except the sub" kinda makes me think that maybe the fronts are surrounds are switched around. When checking that, make darn sure you got your positives and negatives all in order for every speaker too.

Also obviously make sure the sub composite cable is in the correct jack on the receiver and sub - then I usually for most all powered subs I set up the sub's crossover dial to max out frequency-wise, then have the receiver do the crossover setting and sub volume. Lastly with the receiver, set the sub dynamic compression setting to zero or off (all these should be in the speaker setup settings menus on the receiver).

BTW I have never, ever heard a soundbar I liked. Yes, there are good soundbars and bad soundbars...but in the end, they're still soundbars, which to me are just glorified TV speakers.

"The install" is pretty much everything - meaning getting the cabling and wiring done correct. Get that right and usually everything else eventually falls into place.

ok, so the equipment is Bravia xr a80j and receiver is Sony - 7.2-Ch. with Dolby Atmos4K Ultra HD A/V Home Theater Receiver - Black.

I had put the front speaker wires into the 5.1 which means the rear speakers were on the 7.1. Changed that and I’m currently listening to fortnight in surround. The speakers aren’t great, Sony surround box kit but I think I’ll just replace the center channel for now.

the interface for the receiver is from 1970, looks like an Atari. I’m not sure how but I’d really like it to be one step to switch inputs and get down to one remote but I’m not sure that’s possible. I have a tv remote, cable box remote, and receiver remote. Seems like I need all of them.

really appreciate your insight. I will eventually use the 7.1 functionality but for now I’m just happy to have the 5.1 working, save for the tinny center channel.
 
ok, so the equipment is Bravia xr a80j and receiver is Sony - 7.2-Ch. with Dolby Atmos4K Ultra HD A/V Home Theater Receiver - Black.

I had put the front speaker wires into the 5.1 which means the rear speakers were on the 7.1. Changed that and I’m currently listening to fortnight in surround. The speakers aren’t great, Sony surround box kit but I think I’ll just replace the center channel for now.

the interface for the receiver is from 1970, looks like an Atari. I’m not sure how but I’d really like it to be one step to switch inputs and get down to one remote but I’m not sure that’s possible. I have a tv remote, cable box remote, and receiver remote. Seems like I need all of them.

really appreciate your insight. I will eventually use the 7.1 functionality but for now I’m just happy to have the 5.1 working, save for the tinny center channel.

OUTSTANDING!

Yeah, I take it you're talking about using receiver on-screen functions to look at menu commands...yeah, Sony keeps that bare bones (they're not alone, my Yamaha's are similar).

The STRDH790 huh? If I know my Sony receiver numbering methods, that's probably mid level of their non-ES line. Big on wattage, but the power supply is not nearly robust enough to push 140 wpc to any more than the two front speakers. But at low volumes (which in 99% of situations will be plenty of power), it should perform quite nicely and most importantly distortion free. Most listening conditions, an average amplifier rarely if ever pushes more than a continuous 5 wpc.

I do think it is interesting that Sony DH's have mostly done away with the "you can hook up a dozen inputs to them using every connection ever invented". The back panel is soooo clean. These are mostly made to run all HDMI, plus 4 composite and a single coax/optical input. It does do Bluetooth also. It does have ARC, and funny - it ONLY has an FM tuner...no AM - that's a new one on me, never seen that before from them.

2 years parts and labor...that's good too.


As for remotes, Sony used to make a learning universal remote that I own 3 of, can still find it out there. It's the Sony RM-VLZ620. I got one for my home rig, one for my cabin rig, and one NIB in reserve. There's a few on Ebay for sale right now that are domestic.


Remember in your receiver speaker setup settings, if you have a Sony "all in one" surround set (4 matching front/surrounds, a center, then a powered sub) and the non-sub speakers are more or less cube sized, you'll probably want to denote speaker size on the receiver as small for the 5. This will also require you to set the crossover point for all 5 speakers. For example, if the speakers can handle down to say 80 Hz...set the speaker sizes to "small" for the fronts/center/surrounds, all crossovers for those to 80 Hz...then the receiver will send all material below 80 Hz to the sub.

This will prevent you from effectively blowing out the woofers on the 5 speakers because you're sending the entire frequency range below what those speakers can reproduce otherwise. Let the sub do all that work.


Otherwise, congrats and enjoy!
 
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OUTSTANDING!

Yeah, I take it you're talking about using receiver on-screen functions to look at menu commands...yeah, Sony keeps that bare bones (they're not alone, my Yamaha's are similar).

The STRDH790 huh? If I know my Sony receiver numbering methods, that's probably mid level of their non-ES line. Big on wattage, but the power supply is not nearly robust enough to push 140 wpc to any more than the two front speakers. But at low volumes (which in 99% of situations will be plenty of power), it should perform quite nicely and most importantly distortion free. Most listening conditions, an average amplifier rarely if ever pushes more than a continuous 5 wpc.

I do think it is interesting that Sony DH's have mostly done away with the "you can hook up a dozen inputs to them using every connection ever invented". The back panel is soooo clean. These are mostly made to run all HDMI, plus 4 composite and a single coax/optical input. It does do Bluetooth also. It does have ARC, and funny - it ONLY has an FM tuner...no AM - that's a new one on me, never seen that before from them.

2 years parts and labor...that's good too.


As for remotes, Sony used to make a learning universal remote that I own 3 of, can still find it out there. It's the Sony RM-VLZ620. I got one for my home rig, one for my cabin rig, and one NIB in reserve. There's a few on Ebay for sale right now that are domestic.


Remember in your receiver speaker setup settings, if you have a Sony "all in one" surround set (4 matching front/surrounds, a center, then a powered sub) and the non-sub speakers are more or less cube sized, you'll probably want to denote speaker size on the receiver as small for the 5. This will also require you to set the crossover point for all 5 speakers. For example, if the speakers can handle down to say 80 Hz...set the speaker sizes to "small" for the fronts/center/surrounds, all crossovers for those to 80 Hz...then the receiver will send all material below 80 Hz to the sub.

This will prevent you from effectively blowing out the woofers on the 5 speakers because you're sending the entire frequency range below what those speakers can reproduce otherwise. Let the sub do all that work.


Otherwise, congrats and enjoy!


OUTSTANDING!

Yeah, I take it you're talking about using receiver on-screen functions to look at menu commands...yeah, Sony keeps that bare bones (they're not alone, my Yamaha's are similar).

The STRDH790 huh? If I know my Sony receiver numbering methods, that's probably mid level of their non-ES line. Big on wattage, but the power supply is not nearly robust enough to push 140 wpc to any more than the two front speakers. But at low volumes (which in 99% of situations will be plenty of power), it should perform quite nicely and most importantly distortion free. Most listening conditions, an average amplifier rarely if ever pushes more than a continuous 5 wpc.

I do think it is interesting that Sony DH's have mostly done away with the "you can hook up a dozen inputs to them using every connection ever invented". The back panel is soooo clean. These are mostly made to run all HDMI, plus 4 composite and a single coax/optical input. It does do Bluetooth also. It does have ARC, and funny - it ONLY has an FM tuner...no AM - that's a new one on me, never seen that before from them.

2 years parts and labor...that's good too.


As for remotes, Sony used to make a learning universal remote that I own 3 of, can still find it out there. It's the Sony RM-VLZ620. I got one for my home rig, one for my cabin rig, and one NIB in reserve. There's a few on Ebay for sale right now that are domestic.


Remember in your receiver speaker setup settings, if you have a Sony "all in one" surround set (4 matching front/surrounds, a center, then a powered sub) and the non-sub speakers are more or less cube sized, you'll probably want to denote speaker size on the receiver as small for the 5. This will also require you to set the crossover point for all 5 speakers. For example, if the speakers can handle down to say 80 Hz...set the speaker sizes to "small" for the fronts/center/surrounds, all crossovers for those to 80 Hz...then the receiver will send all material below 80 Hz to the sub.

This will prevent you from effectively blowing out the woofers on the 5 speakers because you're sending the entire frequency range below what those speakers can reproduce otherwise. Let the sub do all that work.


Otherwise, congrats and enjoy!
 
Lots of pieces to the overall puzzle...the good thing is now that you got the speakers hooked up correct, everything else is pretty much experimentation with the receiver settings.

so…..how much do I need to spend on a center channel? Any recommendations? I don’t need something super duper, but the out of box center channel feels really cheap. Since it’s the most used speaker seems kinda smart to get a decent speaker
 
so…..how much do I need to spend on a center channel? Any recommendations? I don’t need something super duper, but the out of box center channel feels really cheap. Since it’s the most used speaker seems kinda smart to get a decent speaker

My understanding is that your center channel and front surrounds really should match. I've always matched them, so I'd be looking for the center and two fronts that matched. Is that not still the case @bagdropper ?

The rear surrounds don't need to match really, nor the sub, so you could get by with three new speakers.
 
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so…..how much do I need to spend on a center channel? Any recommendations? I don’t need something super duper, but the out of box center channel feels really cheap. Since it’s the most used speaker seems kinda smart to get a decent speaker

I'll mention this, although @bagdropper can overrule me. Speakers are one of the few electronics where time and technology results in very marginal improvements. Most of the quality is in the physical design. And while speakers don't always last forever, they often do.

In other words, if you had a $3000 TV from ten years ago, it will likely be way worse than a $750 TV today (although Pioneer Kuro devotees would want to strangle me). But speakers...not so much. A speaker that cost $1000 in 2012 likely sounds a lot better than a $400 speaker today.

In my experience, you have a very good chance buying second hand pair of speakers that would be vastly superior to new speakers at the same price. So I don't know what your budget is...let's say you're looking at a low-end front for around $300. You might very well find a ten or even fifteen year old speaker for $300, that was $1200 new, and it would be massively better.

If you decide to replace the center and the fronts as I would, I would definitely look that way first, for a chance to get all three, very good ones, for the price you might pay for a decent new center.
 
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@h-hawk is far more versed in modern speakers than I am. Me personally, if I were looking at "modern speakers" currently, he's the first on this board I'd seek out.

That being said, @Nole Lou makes VERY good points above.

My personal experience with "surround sound speakers" was mostly disappointing, so much so that I sold my supposedly good home theater speakers (Definitive Technology BP6 bi-polar towers, then a matching DT center and surround bi-polar pair...$1500 for 5 speakers). I did this because for one, I eventually discovered they were way too large for the room they were in, and for two...I bought a "surround system" by Def Tech when Ultimate Electronics went under for roughly 20% of retail (I did not need them at all, just took advantage of a fire sale). The irony is over time, I discovered they actually worked better that the bis ass system I was using originally. Seriously, the size of those speakers (I still own them today) were more or less "5 beer cans" in size yet sounded almost the exact same as the much larger system they ultimately replaced - and I got them for $250 all in.

This 5 speaker set - Def Tech ProCinema 60's (nowadays they're 600's or even 6D's) - they're voice matched...meaning, all 5 speakers were made in such a way to where they're made to be used with each other. The woofers are all the same (even the center channel woofers), the tweeters are all the same...the sub is then matched to these to where they fill in fairly well what the 5 speakers can't reproduce given their size.

The whole system is designed from the ground up to fit together in a small package. And I DO believe in any surround sound speaker system, that's the way to go. Think of it like stereo speakers...one doesn't buy one speaker for the left, then a different speaker for the right...you buy a matched set.

So...what I'd look into is a system as a whole rather that trying to find a single specific center channel replacement. And as I recall, you already more or less have that with an all in one Sony box system...you most likely already have a system designed with all 5 speakers blending together by design) - so my thoughts are maybe you just simply have a lower end system as a whole instead of simply a poorly matched center channel speaker.


All the major speaker manufacturers have "matched systems" to choose from, probably multiples based upon budget. Polk, Klipsch, Def Tech, etc...all depends on the usual factors. Your room size, budget, etc. The one room I have set up for 5.1, I use a darn near 20 year old speaker system that throws out satisfactory sound (those tiny Def Techs are pretty damn good for what they are...seriously, the fronts and rears are beer can sized) to where I haven't felt the need to replace them at all.

For the small living room I have them in (roughly 12x20), I think they're perfect. I honestly believe anything bigger would be overkill...I don't believe I'd necessarily get any better sound. My "basic theory" about surround sound is what works best is speaker setups matched to room size.

Surround sound I believe needs the rooms to be over-sized to give the room "theater depth". Movie action isn't in a room, it usually involves a much much larger scene stage. You watch Avengers Endgame's climactic scene at the end and it's in a setting a mile or two large...ain't no way a small room can truly re-create that perfectly.

So, to sound best, the bigger the room the better. Big rooms therefore need bigger speakers (and I believe a large room allows for some forgiveness with regards to speaker quality)...that line of thinking. Smaller rooms, your average HTIB budget rig probably ain't gonna cut it (crappy speakers usually can't be overcome) - but the solution isn't necessarily larger speakers, it very well could be "only" better quality HTIB speakers.

Those are my thoughts...not everybody will agree obviously. This is also why out of 4 main listening rooms across two homes (home and cabin) I only have one rigged for surround sound. I believe home theater "room tuning" is a LOT more difficult to do than a basic 2.1 setup. 2.1 rooms are fairly easy to rig...5.1 (or more...) speaker rooms are a pain in the ass to find the right blend.

3 of the rooms, I use surround sound receivers. 2 of them in pre-amp mode with mains/sub (I use the receiver to re-direct the remaining 3 channels' material to the mains, which are driven by old school 1970's 2 channel integrated amplifiers). The third room (described above), a "traditional" 5.1 small room rig.

The two 2.1 rooms, I still decode DD/DTS...I just use 2 speakers instead of 5. Given the speakers are high end stereo speakers...still sounds pretty damn awesome when watching movies.
 
Oh, I knew for certain I was going to overwhelm you with all this. It took me (no shit) a couple months until I figured out how everything worked together...it was a massive learning and experimentation process.

Every rig is like that. Every damn one. The technology and formats are ever changing, which doesn't help. Hell, with my current Yamaha receivers, the owner's manuals for them have some 130 pages that deal with solely setting them up. HUNDREDS of settings....and they're 13 damn years old!

Every surround sound receiver I've ever owned, at some point I have to set aside a day where I literally have the owner's manual(s) at my side, with the remote controls beside me, and go through EVERY setting one by one with every specific input component playing - just to see what the receiver does with the audio.

This stuff really is daunting. Getting everything to "handshake" without issues. You'll get it all sorted out...just takes patience, research, and testing. And I can help with that...I cut my surround sound teeth with Sony ES. Knowing Sony circa 2021, chances are the same issues I went through in the 2000's are the same issues you're having - sorting through their receiver/component setup menus while deciphering their somewhat cryptic owner's manuals to get the answers you need.
You or anyone have any ideas as to why our new Vizio sound bar automatically returns to the same mid-level volume setting about a minute after we turn the volume down? The older one we have downstairs never did that.
 
You or anyone have any ideas as to why our new Vizio sound bar automatically returns to the same mid-level volume setting about a minute after we turn the volume down? The older one we have downstairs never did that.

No clue really, never owned a sound bar.

However...my initial thought would be to consult your settings for the sound bar. Sometimes audio equipment have an automatic setting for "initial volume".

So, say you turn it on, turn the volume down immediately - and for some reason if you do that within a certain number of seconds/minutes from powering on, it still thinks it's in initial volume mode...and turns it back up.

That's just a wild guess...but certainly plausible.


EDITED TO ADD - sometimes audio equipment have some sort of audio leveling mode, meaning it'll take a level reading of audio inputs, then adjust those inputs so they're all equal. Maybe something like that's going on also...

My hunch is, some sort of setup setting is doing this. Hard to say which one, not knowing the equipment.

Also something to think of, depending on how the TV audio is passed to the sound bar (HDMI, optical, composite, etc)...somehow the TV may be making a mess of things. Check the audio out settings on the TV to indicate "external". I knew someone once a while back that had their speakers on the TV on, yet used an external receiver...the TV kept passing an audio signal to the receiver...with the TV speakers throwing sound out also, sort of muddling things up.
 
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@bagdropper I didn’t understand any of that but you are the best. I’m sure @eightno2002 and others appreciate it as well.

You're very welcome. Yeah, I'm somewhat of an electronics nerd ;)

I was an early adopter to surround sound, and am a "good study" with audio equipment and owner's manuals.

The technology...each manufacturer has their own way of how the design their stuff. You just have to figure out (for example) how each brand sets up speaker size/volume. They all do it...just how does one get to that setting in the receiver menu. Then, multiply that times oh...a couple hundred different menu settings.

Then, one has to know how each input affects the receiver...how they fit together from an "if I change this setting on my BD player or TV, how does that affect what my receiver does" perspective.

Over 20+ years, you learn a LOT of tiny little tricks/concepts as well as the quirks involved with say Sony, Vizio, Panasonic, Onkyo, Denon, Klipsch, Definitive Technologies, Yamaha, etc...

Last night I played with my rooftop antenna...my TV "lost" some OTA channels. So, for an hour I had to use my power antenna rotor and TV to find that antenna sweet spot where I could lock in the most local TV channels.

Those hours invested so to speak...that's how I learned this stuff - with everything I own.
 
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