Swarm Collective Info and Interview with CEO

[Iowa2525]

Murph and Andy Show - interview with Swarm Collective CEO

You can do your part and give to the NIL fund at IowaSwarm.com
For as little as a Netflix Subscription (20$)

If we have to compete by fan bases. I believe the Iowa Fanbase is as good as any out there. The 2003 Orange Bowl will forever be engraved in my mind.

 

[amahawk]

I am still waiting for the NCAA to declare a highly paid athlete ineligible.

 

[Bishop1971]

I donate and will never give to Barta. The nil is seriously the difference maker between some higher profile recruiting and also basketball. I also give to st judes. A great charity. Makes one donation to my Hawkeyes and one for kids with cancer. Feels like evening out the scales for me. But small donations to the swarm add up and make a difference!

 

[cidhawkeye]

I donate and will never give to Barta. The nil is seriously the difference maker between some higher profile recruiting and also basketball. I also give to st judes. A great charity. Makes one donation to my Hawkeyes and one for kids with cancer. Feels like evening out the scales for me. But small donations to the swarm add up and make a difference!

St. Jude’s is one of the better charities as far as maximizing where the money goes

 

[scotthawk1964]

There should be at least a rule that says a college (amature) football player cannot be paid more then an NFL (professional) football player. So, figure the lowest paid NFL player and set the rule each year that a college player cannot be paid more then the lowest paid NFL player or he would be considered a professional, thus making him ineligible to participate in the NCAA. Lets face it, college athletics are SUPPOSED to be amature athletics. However paying anyone to play technically makes them a professional. If were going to make college athletics professional, why can't an NFL player go back to college and play college football if he has not used up his allotted number of college year eligibility?

 

[cidhawkeye]

There should be at least a rule that says a college (amature) football player cannot be paid more then an NFL (professional) football player. So, figure the lowest paid NFL player and set the rule each year that a college player cannot be paid more then the lowest paid NFL player or he would be considered a professional, thus making him ineligible to participate in the NCAA. Lets face it, college athletics are SUPPOSED to be amature athletics. However paying anyone to play technically makes them a professional. If were going to make college athletics professional, why can't an NFL player go back to college and play college football if he has not used up his allotted number of college year eligibility?

Supreme Court may disagree with you

 

[win1forthe]

The NCAA had many chances to avoid nil, but they declined to do so. Now the NCAA is essentially powerless. Their lack of foresight created this situation.

 

[Lumas Etima]

You can do your part and give to the NIL fund at IowaSwarm.com
For as little as a Netflix Subscription (20$)

I’m sorry, but I don’t believe it’s “my part” to have to donate money so that kids who are already going to college for free can make 5-, 6-, or 7-figure salaries as college students.

As I’ve said before, anyone is free to spend their money how they want to. We all spend money on things other people might consider frivolous, and I’ve got no issue with anyone who wants to donate to the Swarm.

But I resent the implication that my worth as a fan is dependent on making a donation to an NIL program. If that’s the case, I probably won’t be much of a fan.

I understand that a competitive NIL program is critical to success in today’s competitive world. I just don’t think it should be my responsibility. The whole idea of NIL is that players deserve “a piece of the pie.” But all collectives like the Swarm are doing is creating a whole separate pie.

 

[cidhawkeye]

I’m sorry, but I don’t believe it’s “my part” to have to donate money so that kids who are already going to college for free can make 5-, 6-, or 7-figure salaries as college students.

As I’ve said before, anyone is free to spend their money how they want to. We all spend money on things other people might consider frivolous, and I’ve got no issue with anyone who wants to donate to the Swarm.

But I resent the implication that my worth as a fan is dependent on making a donation to an NIL program. If that’s the case, I probably won’t be much of a fan.

I understand that a competitive NIL program is critical to success in today’s competitive world. I just don’t think it should be my responsibility. The whole idea of NIL is that players deserve “a piece of the pie.” But all collectives like the Swarm are doing is creating a whole separate pie.

The system is set up that it has to be another separate pie

 

[scotthawk1964]

Supreme Court may disagree with you

Probably, but the bottom line is that College athletics are supposed to be amateur, and if you're being paid to play you're no longer an amateur. And if they're going to be professionals then an NFL player should be able to come back and play college football if he still had remaining eligibility. Maybe that could be taken to the Supreme Court as well. 😆 the NFL has a salary cap, so what would be stopping the NCAA from imposing a salary cap which could amount to being the lowest paid NFL player? It's all uncharted waters. Of course technically the colleges aren't paying the players, businesses are, where NFL teams are paying their players

 

[cidhawkeye]

Probably, but the bottom line is that College athletics are supposed to be amateur, and if you're being paid to play you're no longer an amateur. And if they're going to be professionals then an NFL player should be able to come back and play college football if he still had remaining eligibility. Maybe that could be taken to the Supreme Court as well. 😆 the NFL has a salary cap, so what would be stopping the NCAA from imposing a salary cap which could amount to being the lowest paid NFL player? It's all uncharted waters. Of course technically the colleges aren't paying the players, businesses are, where NFL teams are paying their players

One of the few 9-0 votes for the court. While I agree with your idealistic view it is not realistic in this day and age

 

[scotthawk1964]

One of the few 9-0 votes for the court. While I agree with your idealistic view it is not realistic in this day and age

Nothing is realistic in this day and age, which is why I am glad I am getting old and retiring to the Philippines.

 

[CornKing]

Probably, but the bottom line is that College athletics are supposed to be amateur, and if you're being paid to play you're no longer an amateur. And if they're going to be professionals then an NFL player should be able to come back and play college football if he still had remaining eligibility. Maybe that could be taken to the Supreme Court as well. 😆 the NFL has a salary cap, so what would be stopping the NCAA from imposing a salary cap which could amount to being the lowest paid NFL player? It's all uncharted waters. Of course technically the colleges aren't paying the players, businesses are, where NFL teams are paying their players

Anti-trust laws, for one. A salary cap is a blatant anti-trust violation, unless it has been collectively bargained by a union.

 

[Mitch_Hawkeye]

Probably, but the bottom line is that College athletics are supposed to be amateur, and if you're being paid to play you're no longer an amateur. And if they're going to be professionals then an NFL player should be able to come back and play college football if he still had remaining eligibility. Maybe that could be taken to the Supreme Court as well. 😆 the NFL has a salary cap, so what would be stopping the NCAA from imposing a salary cap which could amount to being the lowest paid NFL player? It's all uncharted waters. Of course technically the colleges aren't paying the players, businesses are, where NFL teams are paying their players

I get paid a good sum of money to do my job, but I'm hardly a professional 😂

 

[Legend12]

The NCAA had many chances to avoid nil, but they declined to do so. Now the NCAA is essentially powerless. Their lack of foresight created this situation.

Blaming the NCAA for all of this is laughable.

 

[jo12208]

There should be at least a rule that says a college (amature) football player cannot be paid more then an NFL (professional) football player. So, figure the lowest paid NFL player and set the rule each year that a college player cannot be paid more then the lowest paid NFL player or he would be considered a professional, thus making him ineligible to participate in the NCAA. Lets face it, college athletics are SUPPOSED to be amature athletics. However paying anyone to play technically makes them a professional. If were going to make college athletics professional, why can't an NFL player go back to college and play college football if he has not used up his allotted number of college year eligibility?

Exactly. Pros should be able to return and play at college.

 

[jo12208]

Nothing is realistic in this day and age, which is why I am glad I am getting old and retiring to the Philippines.

I am ahead of you. I moved to Colombia to live.

 

[cidhawkeye]

Blaming the NCAA for all of this is laughable.

I think that some of this was inevitable… but, if the NCAA had been a little more proactive they may have slowed it down somewhat. When O’Bannon started instead of digging in their heels they had started to slice the pie rather than horde it maybe it doesn’t go to the Supreme Court so soon.

 

[amahawk]

Maybe collectives should fund all college sports.Fire all the coaches , terminate scholarships and shut everything down. The schools could sell their name , image and likenesses to the independent teams. Send the NCAA into the dustbin of history.

 

[GunnerHawk]

I donate and will never give to Barta. The nil is seriously the difference maker between some higher profile recruiting and also basketball. I also give to st judes. A great charity. Makes one donation to my Hawkeyes and one for kids with cancer. Feels like evening out the scales for me. But small donations to the swarm add up and make a difference!

Maybe that is why Nebraska reduced ticket prices by 13%. Fans could take that windfall money and give it to NIL. Does the university really need to charge that much with the significant increase from TV revenues?

 

[cidhawkeye]

Maybe that is why Nebraska reduced ticket prices by 13%. Fans could take that windfall money and give it to NIL. Does the university really need to charge that much with the significant increase from TV revenues?

I thought it was closer to 24%. Take $100 off for the 100th season at the stadium

 

[Cydkar]

I’m sorry, but I don’t believe it’s “my part” to have to donate money so that kids who are already going to college for free can make 5-, 6-, or 7-figure salaries as college students.

As I’ve said before, anyone is free to spend their money how they want to. We all spend money on things other people might consider frivolous, and I’ve got no issue with anyone who wants to donate to the Swarm.

But I resent the implication that my worth as a fan is dependent on making a donation to an NIL program. If that’s the case, I probably won’t be much of a fan.

I understand that a competitive NIL program is critical to success in today’s competitive world. I just don’t think it should be my responsibility. The whole idea of NIL is that players deserve “a piece of the pie.” But all collectives like the Swarm are doing is creating a whole separate pie.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[hawktech]

Probably, but the bottom line is that College athletics are supposed to be amateur, and if you're being paid to play you're no longer an amateur. And if they're going to be professionals then an NFL player should be able to come back and play college football if he still had remaining eligibility. Maybe that could be taken to the Supreme Court as well. 😆 the NFL has a salary cap, so what would be stopping the NCAA from imposing a salary cap which could amount to being the lowest paid NFL player? It's all uncharted waters. Of course technically the colleges aren't paying the players, businesses are, where NFL teams are paying their players

I would prefer to have have eligibility restrictions, like the NFL... The NFL has a rule that you have to be out of high school for 3 years... The NCAA needs an NIL restriction. Say, at least enrolled in college and in good academic standing. And if not, go join the XFL.

 

[Hawk and Awe]

Blaming the NCAA for all of this is laughable.

This is a ridiculous post. 100% of this is their fault. They were stubborn about this for years. At any point before or during the Supreme Court case they could have slowed it down, collectively bargained, setup a salary cap or max, disallowed transfer payments, required return of transfer payments, setup a smarter approach to separate school/businesses or really anything smarter than what they have now.

It’s like they said no, no, no, ok fine do whatever the hell you want (and I don’t know how much of that is because of SCOTUS restriction vs laziness vs running out of time)

 

[hawkeyekid]

I don't pay the Detroit Lions, Cubs, Blackhawks, or Manchester United to get better players so why would I give money to get some 18 year old?

For what? I'd rather give the money to my nieces and nephews. I'd rather spend it on my 2 sons. At this point, giving money to these kids is the same thing as donating to a political campaign. I'm just giving it away for nothing in return.

 

[HawkGem10]

I’m sorry, but I don’t believe it’s “my part” to have to donate money so that kids who are already going to college for free can make 5-, 6-, or 7-figure salaries as college students.

As I’ve said before, anyone is free to spend their money how they want to. We all spend money on things other people might consider frivolous, and I’ve got no issue with anyone who wants to donate to the Swarm.

But I resent the implication that my worth as a fan is dependent on making a donation to an NIL program. If that’s the case, I probably won’t be much of a fan.

I understand that a competitive NIL program is critical to success in today’s competitive world. I just don’t think it should be my responsibility. The whole idea of NIL is that players deserve “a piece of the pie.” But all collectives like the Swarm are doing is creating a whole separate pie.

You are right do don't have to do that, but then you also don't get any right to bitch and moan when Iowa falls down to ISU lvl because they can't pay players enough to come here.

 

[dbrocket]

Why is half of this thread filled with crybaby nonsense?

 

[Legend12]

You are right do don't have to do that, but then you also don't get any right to bitch and moan when Iowa falls down to ISU lvl because they can't pay players enough to come here.

LOL!

 

[beatdahuskers]

Maybe that is why Nebraska reduced ticket prices by 13%. Fans could take that windfall money and give it to NIL. Does the university really need to charge that much with the significant increase from TV revenues?

They did it to fill the stadium and make it less expensive for corporate donors to continue the 'sell out streak'.

 

[SA_Hawk]

Maybe that is why Nebraska reduced ticket prices by 13%. Fans could take that windfall money and give it to NIL. Does the university really need to charge that much with the significant increase from TV revenues?

Bad thing is NIL is going to save Husker football. They are in a recruiting no man’s land and now the fans can basically buy the recruits and the wins they desire.

Going forward the teams with the largest NIL pools to draw from will be the teams with the most success.

 

[scotthawk1964]

I am ahead of you. I moved to Colombia to live.

Never been to Columbia, but I would imagine the cost of living is probably close to the same between the two countries. I have been to the Philippines many times and was married to a Filipina for 10 years. Great friendly people there. I plan on relaxing, not watching the news and try and watch the Hawks play if I can keep fooling youtube tv with my VPN.

 

[hawkeyekid]

You are right do don't have to do that, but then you also don't get any right to bitch and moan when Iowa falls down to ISU lvl because they can't pay players enough to come here.

Oh no not ISU level. Newsflash, there are a ton of teams at the "ISU" level. Good attendance, good fan base, can make a CCG once in awhile and have absolutely no shot of winning the NC or winning a playoff game. Iowa is already there. NIL is not going to change that.

 

[DogBoyRy]

I donate and will never give to Barta. The nil is seriously the difference maker between some higher profile recruiting and also basketball. I also give to st judes. A great charity. Makes one donation to my Hawkeyes and one for kids with cancer. Feels like evening out the scales for me. But small donations to the swarm add up and make a difference!

I just sent barta an email.
Basically saying he (i club)won’t get another nickel from me until they get their crap together with the swarm.
If osu and others can do it so can he. Their lawyers figured it out. If ours can’t find ones that can.

 

[littlez]

Bad thing is NIL is going to save Husker football. They are in a recruiting no man’s land and now the fans can basically buy the recruits and the wins they desire.

Going forward the teams with the largest NIL pools to draw from will be the teams with the most success.

Like Texas A & M this year?

 

[Bishop1971]

Bad thing is NIL is going to save Husker football. They are in a recruiting no man’s land and now the fans can basically buy the recruits and the wins they desire.

Going forward the teams with the largest NIL pools to draw from will be the teams with the most success.

It will definitely put development into overdrive! Might also leave some gems that we can pick up. Tate for 1 is an incredible athlete with a ton of upside. He'll be a star along with quite a few in this years signing.

Like Texas A & M this year?

That still brings me happiness. I hope the millions that Georgia is giving their 5star wr screws up team chemistry.

 

[kwik44]

I'm choosing to back away from college sports at the moment. Just not as tuned in as I used to be.

Will I watch? Yes. Will I support the same as always via season tickets? Yes. Doesn't mean I need to increase my spending to be a better fan, just don't need to be as emotionally invested. Probably healthier for all of us, tbh.

 

[pistachio1999]

I just sent barta an email.
Basically saying he (i club)won’t get another nickel from me until they get their crap together with the swarm.
If osu and others can do it so can he. Their lawyers figured it out. If ours can’t find ones that can.

You have to pay any seat premiums if buying season tickets or you won’t get those.

 

[DogBoyRy]

You have to pay any seat premiums if buying season tickets or you won’t get those.

Then i’ll give up my tix. Have had season tickets for over 30 years.

 

[GhostAppendage]

NIL

Then i’ll give up my tix. Have had season tickets for over 30 years.

no one cares….there will be people right behind you to swoop them up….threat with no teeth.

 

[DogBoyRy]

NIL

no one cares….there will be people right behind you to swoop them up….threat with no teeth.

Not if the product becomes uncompetitive. Remember carver under lick?