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Knowledge of (never mind interest in) history has always struck me as disappointing.
My guess is they are combining the numbers of ghettos and concentration camps and are using a pretty liberal interpretation of what a ghetto is, or was. Maybe there were multiple ghettos in one city. The point is there were a lot of them though.Knowledge of (never mind interest in) history has always struck me as disappointing.
I’ve always had a fascination with WW2, and have read extensively about (mainly on the military side, the holocaust materials I have on the shelf would be from the visit to Dachau as a kid.)
But I think I could only name about three camps - Dachau, Auschwitz, and Treblinka. I’m wondering what they mean by ‘40,000 camps and ghettos’. Are there even 10,000 cities/towns in Europe? That just seems like an absurdly high number, and I’m trying to wrap my head around what they’re counting.
Before some idiot says this is holocaust, it’s not, I’m just trying understand what they mean by that number. It doesn’t make sense.
All of this aside because this is at least the third thread on this subject.
So just rattle off the name of any European cities?My guess is they are combining the numbers of ghettos and concentration camps and are using a pretty liberal interpretation of what a ghetto is, or was. Maybe there were multiple ghettos in one city. The point is there were a lot of them though.
Certainly any medium or larger would have had them.So just rattle off the name of any European cities?
The Warsaw Ghetto is famous, but really only because of the uprising as the Red Army approached… and then waited.
This is also a prime example of why parents aren't qualified to be making curriculum decisions.“It shows people hanging, it shows them killing kids," he added, describing the depictions in "Maus" of true historical events. "Why does the educational system promote this kind of stuff? It is not wise or healthy."
This paragraph from the story really sums up this whole book banning movement to me. People just simply want to deny that anything bad has ever happened. Some of them are well intentioned, they don't want their child to suffer the trauma of seeing kids killed. I get that. I have two kids. But here is the thing, kids did get killed. And we need to remember that. Is it fun? No. But it is necessary for us to understand how that could happen so that our kids know what is at stake with the stances certain people take. Is the school promoting it? NO! There is a difference between reporting/teaching and promoting. This is teaching.
Are there even 10,000 cities/towns in Europe?
It all depends on how the questions are phrased, but I suspect you are right that a number of people realize the Holocaust occurred but aren’t fully aware of the magnitude of the devastation.Ummm
Silly question
How is it that based on this survey only 37% of younger Americans are aware of the Holocaust but 52% of them could name a concentration camp or ghetto.
Unless of course they are tricking you by making you think that these people are unaware of the holocaust when in reality they were only unaware about the specific number of people killed.
Because if you are aware it was a massive genocide, you've seen the pictures, you know it happened but you don't know the specific number of people killed. . . I really don't think that's a big deal. The point is knowing about it, not knowing the specific number.
It all depends on how the questions are phrased, but I suspect you are right that a number of people realize the Holocaust occurred but aren’t fully aware of the magnitude of the devastation.
I consider myself fairly well informed on the Holocaust, but I was surprised to read that there were 40,000 camps and ghettos. I knew there were a lot of them scattered across German-occupied Europe and I know the names of several of them. But I wouldn’t have guessed that there were 40,000 of them.
That's the thing to me.
2 million, 4 million, 6 million, 20 million. . . they probably didn't know the specific number, but that's not a big deal as long as they understand that MILLIONS were killed.
And with 40,000 ghettos and concentration camps. . . I could only name a few. Does that make me ignorant about the holocaust?
yep. what's your issue with it?Raise your hand if you know what the photo is that they are discussing and not just spouting talking points.
It's not fiction, it's a depiction of real events.How about read "Night" by Elie Weisel instead of some fiction about mouse?
Is it this one?Raise your hand if you know what the photo is that they are discussing and not just spouting talking points.
I don't understand this sh!t! Some Republican please explain this crap to me
That's a pretty standard book for most 9th grade reading lists. Maus was specifically written to allow kids to be able to access the ideas in a less horrifying way. These people (and apparently you?) are morons.How about read "Night" by Elie Weisel instead of some fiction about mouse?
It's not fiction, it's a depiction of real events.
JFC, why are some people so stupid?
They are not against teaching the Holocaust. This particular book has a few items they find objectionable (nudity, language).
The Holocaust was obscene. There’s no nice way to tell the truth about it without minimizing what really happened.They are not against teaching the Holocaust. This particular book has a few items they find objectionable (nudity, language).
There were countless sub camps under the administrative umbrella of the larger campsKnowledge of (never mind interest in) history has always struck me as disappointing.
I’ve always had a fascination with WW2, and have read extensively about (mainly on the military side, the holocaust materials I have on the shelf would be from the visit to Dachau as a kid.)
But I think I could only name about three camps - Dachau, Auschwitz, and Treblinka. I’m wondering what they mean by ‘40,000 camps and ghettos’. Are there even 10,000 cities/towns in Europe? That just seems like an absurdly high number, and I’m trying to wrap my head around what they’re counting.
Before some idiot says this is holocaust denial, it’s not, I’m just trying understand what they mean by that number. It doesn’t make sense.
All of this aside because this is at least the third thread on this subject.
I'm sorry, did the author not clean up the genocide enough for you?They are not against teaching the Holocaust. This particular book has a few items they find objectionable (nudity, language).
It's genocide. Nudity and language should be the least of anyone's concern.They are not against teaching the Holocaust. This particular book has a few items they find objectionable (nudity, language).