I gave you a frame of reference in the post. Basically, if we don't get a handle on climate change, whatever damages mines for batteries make won't matter.
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And you think cars in the US are the major contributing factor to the climate changing?
No.
Until China and India address their manufacturing pollution, anything you, I or any amount of "regular" people do is essentially useless.
Funny you bring that up. China is making the switch to EVs much faster than the US. They are going to eat our lunch while our government and special interests drag their feet grabbing for every last dirty polluting dollar they can get their greedy little hands on.
"Why don't the other countries lead on this issue?" is totally a position a Trump bagger would take.
The major carbon emissions come from driving the cars, not producing them. And before you bring up some irrelevant to this discussion tangent like, "But China uses so much coal power", we are talking about the contribution of cars to carbon emissions, not power generation. That's a different issue that also needs to be addressed.
If you have a way of convincing China and India to change their manufacturing practices, please share - I'd be 100% on board.
No, we are talking about damage from any and all manufacturing that contributes to climate change.
I mean, if you think the only option is to return to an 18th century economy I guess that is an option that would save us from climate change but I don't think there will be very many people that get on board with that.
As for China and India, it's not an easy fix but saying, "You first" isn't a method that will work very well, and even if it does then all the benefits of being the leader of something go to them. We are giving up jobs and economic growth by doing that.
Again, you still seem to be under the impression the US is in a position to make a significant impact - it's not. No matter what the US does, climate will continue to change because of Asia.
If you think Asian countries will change their practices based on US examples, how's the human rights issue going over there???
This seems like a deflection. We cannot control them, we can control what our country chooses to encourage and subsidize.
End all fossil fuel subsidies now and let the market decide. We can’t do that because there are too many fossil fuel and legacy auto lobbyists controlling out government policy. Oil, nat gas, and coal companies are not properly bearing the cost their pollution has on the environment. They never have been held accountable, ever!
These companies are the biggest corporate welfare queens after defense spending. They cannot compete on a level playing field, the only way they will survive is to continue to cheat and continue to pollute our rivers, lakes, oceans, and the air we breathe without repercussions.
You mean to tell me Tesla delivered more cars in Q4 2021 than in the entire YEAR of 2019??? Oh baby!!!!
Your missing the point. If you want the theater and optics, have at it. But if you want to see an actual impact, keep searching.
