1. and 2. are possibly facts, but is still debated. 3 is not a fact and there is zero evidence. Sorry.He provides the "minimal facts" that are accepted by nearly all historians.
1.) Jesus's crucifixion
2.) His empty tomb
3.) Post resurrection appearances
Those are historical facts and have to be explained somehow. SOMETHING happened after Jesus was crucified.
Yeah, thats not a real argument. Joseph Smith saw golden tablets and claimed that Moroni spoke to him; claimed so til the day he died. You believe that too?
Was Joseph Smith murdered because he made that claim? I seriously don't know.
Romans killed Christians.. that doesnt prove they are right. Plenty of non-Christians have been killed for their beliefs. That doesnt prove anything.
They got no benefit? You are still preaching their word, arent you?I don't expect to convince people. I know most Americans are atheists now. They hate Christianity.
I don't believe Joseph Smith because he was arrested 40 times for crimes like bank fraud and had 40 wives, some as young as 14 years old. He had a reason to lie.
The Apostles had no such motives. They got no worldy benefit from spreading Jesus's message.
Joseph Smith and the criminal justice system - Wikipedia
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List of Joseph Smith's wives - Wikipedia
The "rules" keep changing. Can I love God without going to church? Can I love God but have doubts about His existence and still get into Heaven?
Who was recording the events of Jesus' life, death and resurrection as they were occurring?
Ahhh.... so what someone says they remembered. How long after were the events recorded?
Lol - most say it was started about 40 years after and took at least 50 years to complete. Nothing was written at the time. These are stories that people say happened, some of which likely did, much of which did not.
Why would I do that? You are basing your whole philosophy on hearsay that was generations old when it was finally written down.Please let the great saint genius Thomas Aquinas show you the light:
THOMAS AQUINAS SELECTED WRITINGS : Saint Thomas : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Study of works by Saint Thomasarchive.org
Certainly your prerogative. I have many questions of you because your answers are so inconsistent and fluid. If someone is going to publicly tout their faith so hard they should be able to answer these types of questions very easily and in a manner that makes sense.Because you have many questions and Thomas Aquinas has many answers.
I'm an ex-atheist. I only reverted to the Catholic Church after a bad experience one evening in August of 2016.
Before that, I didn't believe any of this stuff.
Being murdered for making a claim does not make said claim true. In fact, I imagine a lot of people have been murdered for making false claims.
It's not that they were killed for making a claim. It's that they could have changed their claims and lived. Do a lot of people go to their deaths for claims they know are not true? These men knew whether it was true or not and went to their deaths because they knew it was true.
More importantly, outside of the Bible, there's no evidence for the existence of most of the apostles and zero evidence that they were put to death for anything. To say that the Bible is true because it's in the Bible is...quixotic.
And I'm simply pointing out the huge holes and inconsistencies in the theories you are promoting.
Because it's God's free will to choose who gets into Heaven, not the person.
Again, then it's His will. He has ultimate control, according to your philosophy. He makes the choices.
Islam spread around the world without Apostles.That doesn't mean the Apostles didn't exist. Christianity spreading the globe without the Apostles existing would be an even bigger miracle than the resurrection.
No. You're spinning the fact that ultimately, in your belief, God has the will to make anything happen so it is His free will to direct or allow people's choices. That's contradictory. How many times have you heard someone say their choice was what God told them to do? Or that the choice is up to God?
